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  1. Yeah, that shouldn't be too bad. I was at a small firm in 1L and had no questions about this from big firms at the 2L recruit. They were only curious about what kinds of projects I worked on. I only got asked why I left my 1L firm when I interviewed at another small firm that practised in the same general area and was friendly with my former boss (awks). I ended up taking the job at the small firm, so evidently it wasn't a huge problem for them either.
  2. I've been through this before, and it is indeed dicey. But it's not insurmountable. There are better and worse ways of handling it. 1) Try to get an enthusiastic reference letter from a supervisor (ideally a partner) and include it in all your applications. This helps pre-empt a lot of questions about your motives, your interpersonal skills, and the quality of your work. I found it effective to provide a reference letter whether the firm requested one or not, but to only provide a writing sample if they request it. 2) Have a solid, specific, and convincing explanation of why you're interested in the new position in your cover letter, with the implication that this new position is your true fit (and the previous one was not). 3) Be prepared to answer any questions about the switch during the interview. Try to emphasize points of distinction between the old job and the prospective job, and why you think the latter will provide opportunities/directions that the former did not. But do not in any way disparage the old firm. Talking about the differences in the practice area(s), firm size, specific people you hope to work with, the structure of the student program, etc. is all fair game. I think generally big firms understand if you move from a boutique, and vice versa, but if you move from big firm to big firm or boutique to boutique this might raise some questions. Hope this helps!
  3. It's potentially a good opportunity to get familiar with the Rules of Civil Procedure, how to draft motions, etc. in a supervised environment. WE LOVE YOU AND WISH YOU SUCCESS ❤️
  4. How far off is their area of practice from your area of interest? Is this firm so highly specialized that it'll lock you into a weird trajectory, or do you expect it to help you develop general competencies that you can take with you if/when you choose to leave?
  5. That's pretty low, but I wouldn't necessarily call it exploitative. At least they're making an effort to pay their students instead of acting like they're doing you a favour by making you work for free in exchange for experience. Do you think they're doing it purely out of stinginess or necessity? I worked for comparable firms as a student and I'll PM you my weekly pay for comparison. You'll have to make a calculated decision based on the risk of not getting a job at all. Like you mentioned, the job market isn't looking great. Do you have other prospects? Can you financially and emotionally handle a prolonged job search? Are you prepared to do the LPP if you're out of options? Also consider the non-monetary benefits of working for this firm (ex. collegiality, hireback prospects, relevance to your area of interest, mentorship, quality of the files, proximity to home, work-life balance) and whether the low compensation make you disgruntled and therefore affect your work performance.
  6. I just graduated from law school and I'm a very risk-averse person, so take my comments with a sizable grain of salt. Others, please correct me if I'm wrong. Based on what I've heard from my mentors, solo practice is risky because you're highly dependent on your client list. When you're green it's difficult to build up your network and reputation, especially if you're away from the country during law school. Once you're up and running, you'll also have to pay out-of-pocket costs for Bar membership, software, office space, bad debts, etc. Even before you enter practice, you'll have to secure an articling position (which will be hard given the snooty attitudes many recruiters have towards NCA candidates) or complete the LPP (which, to my knowledge, still carries a lot of stigma in the industry).
  7. But never say never! I got an interview with the CLB (and a bunch of other government offices) for a 2L position with slightly above average grades and a nasty C+ from the most recent semester. The interview went terribly, but that's another matter entirely LOL This isn't meant to freak out the OP, but I think the main things that made my application stand apart despite my meh grades were my letter of reference from a managing partner at the law firm where I spent my 1L summer, my consistent research interest (since undergrad) in federalism and the Charter, and my previous non-law work experience with the government.
  8. Hi everyone! I might be mistaken, but I think I read on the LSO website that there is a smaller January call-to-the-bar ceremony in addition to the main June ceremony. I'm in a situation where I can either article starting in April 2021 (called in Jan 2022) or August 2021 (called in June 2022). Are there any disadvantages to getting called in January if my firm is okay with a modified schedule? Thanks in advance!
  9. 1) I'm at McGill and we have people from really diverse alma maters (including Concordia). Prestige shouldn't officially make a difference, but it matters only insofar as the admissions committee members are biased for/against certain schools - someone who went to Harvard would probably be more impressive than someone from Ryerson, for example. If you get good grades, write a convincing personal statement, have some great ECs / summer work experience, have good letters of reference, and demonstrate competence in French you'll stand a good chance of getting in. McGill looks at your application holistically, so no one factor is determinative of whether you'll get in. FYI, you don't need an LSAT to get into McGill, but if you do write your LSAT you have to disclose your score. 2) You can't work in a civil law jurisdiction with just a common law degree. However, Ottawa has a joint program, where you can take both degrees one after the other. I believe U de M does a fast-track civil law program if you already have a common law degree from another North American school. Of course, after law school you have to pass the Bar and article in the jurisdiction in which you want to practice before you're a full-fledged lawyer.
  10. Hey all - I'm looking for a casual, law-related side hustle for a bit of extra cash. I'm also looking to do some publishing to get my name out there. Are there income-generating opportunities for writing legal thought pieces, encyclopedia entries, etc.? How do I get involved? Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks!
  11. Find a firm that practices in an area that vaguely interests you and send an email to one of the articling students or associates inviting them to coffee. In your email, briefly explain who you are, what drew you to their profile, and what info you're looking to gather. You can Google some informational interview request templates. People in the profession are surprisingly nice to students, especially if you have something in common with them (ex. alma mater, subject matter interest). Good luck!
  12. I'm sorry if that's how you interpreted our posts and it made you feel bad. I wasn't trying to out-compete anyone in terms of who has it worse. I wouldn't say I got the job. I got a job. I'm definitely grateful and relieved, but that doesn't completely erase the sting I feel from having my weaknesses exposed and being repeatedly rejected. And it doesn't make the return to normalcy easy.
  13. Anyone still trying to recover psychologically from this process? I'm still getting flashbacks to embarrassing moments and my mind keeps drifting back to "what could I have done differently?" even though I actually got a job in the end. The succession of rejection notifications on Tuesday night after second round interviews made me feel like 💩. I can barely focus on school and I have 4 assignments due this week.
  14. I've heard that recruiters sometimes set up students they rejected with jobs at other firms. Is there a way to nudge them to help you out?
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