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  1. If it helps, I only started hearing back from the courts in early-mid February. There was one judge who reached out in late January, but that was a scheduling anomaly. My advice is just to sit back and focus on other things -it’s so easy to get caught up in the wait and check lawstudents.ca every other hour.
  2. I agree with JaysFan. Most law students don’t get 1L law jobs anyway, so applying is worth it for the experience of applying and preparing application materials. That’ll help you manage stress in the 2L recuits and beyond. One of my Profs in 1L told me not to get a law job in 1L because it was the last summer I’d ever have to myself before I became a workhorse for a firm. She said working in the summer of 1L would marginally assist your career in the long run, but taking the summer for yourself would be better in the short-term and to help you get through law school. Just food for thought.
  3. I thought a lot about reputation when I was deciding where to go the first time around, but ultimately I chose the place that felt “right”. By that, I mean I just had a feeling when I visited the faculty that it was the place for me. I changed school for personal reasons, so reputation was not a factor then. And I didn’t apply to my second school the first time around, so I hadn’t decided against my transfer school initially. Also, I agree with the comment on reducing debt. Three years in, you’ll thank yourself if you chose a school that costs 5-10k less a year (if money is a concern). If it’s not, then yeah you can go for reputation. But I think finding where you think you’ll fit in is best. If that means staying closer to home, than so be it. If it means the school you think has the best name and that’s important to you, then do that.
  4. For what it’s worth, I’ve gone to two law schools in Ontario and found them to be about the same. The cities are different, the school spirit is different, but the environment was about the same as far as the faculty went. I think any school is a great school, and what matters most is that you make the most of your time there. Take opportunities to learn and grow and you won’t regret your choice.
  5. I like your perspective on things. I View the “difficulty” of law school in two different aspects, especially in the early years. On one hand, there’s the fact that no one has been to law school before, and you’re not learning substantive concepts so much as a way to think. Every class you take in 1L is teaching you skills rather than concepts, because the law will change by the time you enter practice. The important thing is to realize you’re learning to think and communicate differently. When you do, you realize that it’s normal for things to take time (just like learning to play an instrument or a sport). It also makes it easier to accept that others learn more quickly. Just like any skill, time and practice are key, so doing the readings and asking questions in class make a big difference. It’s not a matter of being dumb/smart, but a matter of how quickly bon can change the way they think. On the other hand, there’s the whole social pressure aspect. You’re surrounded by peers who were academically successful. Everyone in school is used to doing well. Then, you’re thrown into the culture of “the curve” and being above or below that curve. From that comes the additional pressure of Bay Street and everyone saying grades are the most important thing. That may be true to some extent, but you need to mute all that outside noise and focus on yourself. If you get caught up in the gossip or the comparison game with peers, you will do so to the detriment of your wellbeing and quite possibly your academic performance. Anyway, I guess a quick way to summarize is to say the law school takes time, and you should focus on you. Take the time, do the work, and eventually the rest will follow.
  6. I got into Queen’s, Western and uOttawa relatively early with a 3.39 CGPA and 165 LSAT so it’s definitely possible. I also had a downward trend in L2. I accepted Queen’s before I got responses from other schools. Do your best and kill the LSAT. If you score over 160 and write a good personal statement, Queen’s is within reach.
  7. I had an in-firm interview with a national firm during which an interviewer asked me about one particularly low grade I received in my undergrad...about 4 years prior. That particular interviewer seemed rather uptight so I wasn’t surprised. But I think that was an anomaly. I don’t think firms care all that much, especially if you’re doing well in law school.
  8. I have heard that for the internal review process, you need to be prepared to discuss "substantive Supreme Court jurisprudence". What do you think this means? Does it mean having a few cases handy and being able to speak to those, or does it mean being aware of all the recent decisions and being able to field questions about any particular case?
  9. Based purely on my subjective observations of the recruitment process in 2L (OCIs and Articling), I wouldn't apply to Ryerson just yet. I would prefer to wait it out a few years and see what happens to Ryerson grads in terms of placements, and also look at what kind of "clout" the faculty gets. I've come to realize that while it doesn't really matter where you go to school (for the most part, law school is what you make of it), not all law students stand on equal footing for future opportunities, school reputation/brand being a major factor in that. For instance, it seems instinctive for many to think that someone who goes to U of T or Dal or UNB is better than the other simply by virtue of the school. Sure, the fact that some schools are more exclusive and generally admit more "qualified candidates" (on paper), and generally have more of their admitted students actually enroll, but that is not to say that a law student at one school is better than another. That's my perspective on "individual" law students. However, as a cohort, for the same reasons, I think we assume that one school will, as a whole, have a more "outstanding" cohort than others. Might not be fair, but that's what I've noticed. Also, law firms love to show that they hire quality candidates. One way they do this is by having extensive "bios" on their "people" websites showing what each lawyer has done, and where they have gone to school. The fact that you can often filter through a firm's lawyers based on what school they attended (there is actually a "school" drop-down menu!) goes to show the relative weight associated with school name and reputation. I've also heard a rumour that some firms (particularly the large ones) prefer to only hire from certain schools. SO I suppose what I am trying to say is Ryerson may be a good school, maybe just as good as Osgoode. But we don't know that, and neither does anyone else - and necessarily, at this stage that will be a caveat in the mind of every recruiter a Ryerson Law student speaks to. The rest is up to you. On the flip side, it could be an extremely enriching experience to be a part of the first few cohorts at a new faculty...They will likely get good professors and try to establish links and clinics like the other schools, so there might be more of an opportunity for students to get involved, at least on a deeper institutional level, than in established faculties. Finally, I would recommend re-writing the LSAT if you want to be a serious candidate at Osgoode (basing my opinion purely on the numbers provided, absent any intangibles not listed). Because there are so many applicants (probable 2000-3000 a year), at some level, admissions start as a "numbers" game - they likely have a "cut-off" for initial screening purposes, and move down as applicants accepted offers at other schools or withdraw their applications. Your GPA is definitely in the target range, but to make yourself a more competitive applicant, again purely on a numbers basis, I would aim for a 160-165 (or higher, of course).
  10. I found almost none of the interview question I got during OCIs or in-firms were "law" questions. Most were about trying to get to know me as a person, I suppose to see if I fit with the firm "mentality" and if they could see themselves working with me. in the OCI phase, given that the interviews are so short, I had a lot of questions relating to things on my resume (ex: "why did you write this?"; "tell me about XX you did during this job"; "tell me about what you do for fun outside school"). Granted, I did put some jokes/tidbits in my cover letters and resumes (generally ill-advised!), so I think it's natural that most of the questions centered around what I wrote and why I wrote them. I think the questions will likely be linked to what you write in your application package, but the idea is the same for all candidates - figure out who they are and if they seem fun to work with. The next type of question that came up most frequently were things about seeing how I would work in a team, how I would deal with competing work priorities and how I organize my work (questions like "I see in XX job you dealt with customer complaints...tell me about how you dealt with those" or "how would you deal with competing priorities in your workload?"). The last type of question that came up (less frequently than I thought it would, honestly) was about why I applied to a particular firm. I think the answer to this question reveals a lot about a particular candidate (ex: whether they know about the firm, whether they just applied for the name, whether they BS their answer, whether they have a particular interest, etc.) because it forces you to get around the elephant in the room, that being that most students just apply to big firms for the name and the money. It forces you to stand out of the herd, going beyond the "I've heard great things about the firm" and "XX firms is one of the top firms". In short, you definitely need to know about the firm enough to explain why you want to work there (which honestly might be a mystery until OCIs arrive), but I would focus more on the types of qualities and traits (personal, that is) I would want to get across. Know your application materials, and practice answering questions by yourself! Find a list of frequently asked questions and write down some tentative answers, then ask yourself the questions out loud and try to answer them. It may seem strange to do this, but think of it this way: you may know a lot about yourself, but since you never talk about yourself in great detail, it may be hard to articulate on the spot. Therefore, having loosely prepared some responses to typical questions (like "tell me about yourself") allows you to be at the very least one step ahead. If nothing else, you will look prepared and confident, which are always pluses. (also, practising your answers out loud will let you evaluate them more critically - does it sound natural? is my answer too long? does it seem cheesy? et.)
  11. The short answer, at least for me, was not to worry about it. You won’t know how many OCIs you’ll have until your faculty tells you. Nothing you can do from now until then. When you get your OCI list, what you see is what you get. Make the most of however many OCIs you have. I don’t think there’s a huge difference in chances of success having 2-3 OCIs vs having 10+. Everything happens so quickly once OCIs come around that you don’t want to be worrying about things that are out of your control. When you get your OCI list, remember that they selected you for a reason. Do your best to put your best foot forward and let the universe do its thing. Finally, I think it’s worth noting that OCIs are probably one of a multitude of ways you can end up where you want to be. Don’t lose sight of your career goals on the basis of a recruitment process in 2L. Aim high and keep on truckin’.
  12. I don’t think that’s accurate, because it’s equating an 89 to a B+, which is not the case for most Canadian schools. I think you’d need to figure out what your school considers each percentage grade to be in letter form (ex: at UOttawa, a 70-74% is a B, or 6/10 = 3.0 on LSAC scale). You’d need to convert every single grade you have, multiply each grade by the number of credits for that course, and then divide the whole thing by the total number of credits. I would suspect an 89% average to be in the A- to A range for most schools, so I’d more accurately guess your LSAC gpa to fall in the 3.7-3.8 range. Buts that’s just a guess.
  13. Going to law school isn’t like trying out a new menu item because your friends told you it’s worth it. It’s expensive, it’s time-consuming and it can be quite intense both socially and intellectually. If you aren’t particularly interested in law, I wouldn’t make the jump just because others have brought it up. Too big an investment for that. i would go for what makes you happy - if that’s the PhD, then do it. Maybe it develops an interest in law later on. Maybe it interests you in something new. But by the sounds of it, you may end up working in or studying in the hypothetical PhD field anyway, so why not explore that now? That being said, studying law is an awesome experience and it’s incredibly rewarding. A lot of people who study law don’t end up practising, but choose one of the many other doors law school opens up. On a final note: if you’re truly not interested in practising law, you could always look at doing an LL.M in a particular field of interest (in law) at some point in the future. You don’t need an LL.B or JD for an LL.M, though that could always be helpful. Also, the LL.M is cheaper!
  14. No typo - that’s about accurate. I don’t remember the exact number, but I had a downward trend in the tail end of undergrad. I did have some family emergencies, but not enough to account for the trend.
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