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  1. Just following up on this - anyone have any insight?
  2. Based purely on my subjective observations of the recruitment process in 2L (OCIs and Articling), I wouldn't apply to Ryerson just yet. I would prefer to wait it out a few years and see what happens to Ryerson grads in terms of placements, and also look at what kind of "clout" the faculty gets. I've come to realize that while it doesn't really matter where you go to school (for the most part, law school is what you make of it), not all law students stand on equal footing for future opportunities, school reputation/brand being a major factor in that. For instance, it seems instinctive for many to think that someone who goes to U of T or Dal or UNB is better than the other simply by virtue of the school. Sure, the fact that some schools are more exclusive and generally admit more "qualified candidates" (on paper), and generally have more of their admitted students actually enroll, but that is not to say that a law student at one school is better than another. That's my perspective on "individual" law students. However, as a cohort, for the same reasons, I think we assume that one school will, as a whole, have a more "outstanding" cohort than others. Might not be fair, but that's what I've noticed. Also, law firms love to show that they hire quality candidates. One way they do this is by having extensive "bios" on their "people" websites showing what each lawyer has done, and where they have gone to school. The fact that you can often filter through a firm's lawyers based on what school they attended (there is actually a "school" drop-down menu!) goes to show the relative weight associated with school name and reputation. I've also heard a rumour that some firms (particularly the large ones) prefer to only hire from certain schools. SO I suppose what I am trying to say is Ryerson may be a good school, maybe just as good as Osgoode. But we don't know that, and neither does anyone else - and necessarily, at this stage that will be a caveat in the mind of every recruiter a Ryerson Law student speaks to. The rest is up to you. On the flip side, it could be an extremely enriching experience to be a part of the first few cohorts at a new faculty...They will likely get good professors and try to establish links and clinics like the other schools, so there might be more of an opportunity for students to get involved, at least on a deeper institutional level, than in established faculties. Finally, I would recommend re-writing the LSAT if you want to be a serious candidate at Osgoode (basing my opinion purely on the numbers provided, absent any intangibles not listed). Because there are so many applicants (probable 2000-3000 a year), at some level, admissions start as a "numbers" game - they likely have a "cut-off" for initial screening purposes, and move down as applicants accepted offers at other schools or withdraw their applications. Your GPA is definitely in the target range, but to make yourself a more competitive applicant, again purely on a numbers basis, I would aim for a 160-165 (or higher, of course).
  3. I found almost none of the interview question I got during OCIs or in-firms were "law" questions. Most were about trying to get to know me as a person, I suppose to see if I fit with the firm "mentality" and if they could see themselves working with me. in the OCI phase, given that the interviews are so short, I had a lot of questions relating to things on my resume (ex: "why did you write this?"; "tell me about XX you did during this job"; "tell me about what you do for fun outside school"). Granted, I did put some jokes/tidbits in my cover letters and resumes (generally ill-advised!), so I think it's natural that most of the questions centered around what I wrote and why I wrote them. I think the questions will likely be linked to what you write in your application package, but the idea is the same for all candidates - figure out who they are and if they seem fun to work with. The next type of question that came up most frequently were things about seeing how I would work in a team, how I would deal with competing work priorities and how I organize my work (questions like "I see in XX job you dealt with customer complaints...tell me about how you dealt with those" or "how would you deal with competing priorities in your workload?"). The last type of question that came up (less frequently than I thought it would, honestly) was about why I applied to a particular firm. I think the answer to this question reveals a lot about a particular candidate (ex: whether they know about the firm, whether they just applied for the name, whether they BS their answer, whether they have a particular interest, etc.) because it forces you to get around the elephant in the room, that being that most students just apply to big firms for the name and the money. It forces you to stand out of the herd, going beyond the "I've heard great things about the firm" and "XX firms is one of the top firms". In short, you definitely need to know about the firm enough to explain why you want to work there (which honestly might be a mystery until OCIs arrive), but I would focus more on the types of qualities and traits (personal, that is) I would want to get across. Know your application materials, and practice answering questions by yourself! Find a list of frequently asked questions and write down some tentative answers, then ask yourself the questions out loud and try to answer them. It may seem strange to do this, but think of it this way: you may know a lot about yourself, but since you never talk about yourself in great detail, it may be hard to articulate on the spot. Therefore, having loosely prepared some responses to typical questions (like "tell me about yourself") allows you to be at the very least one step ahead. If nothing else, you will look prepared and confident, which are always pluses. (also, practising your answers out loud will let you evaluate them more critically - does it sound natural? is my answer too long? does it seem cheesy? et.)
  4. The short answer, at least for me, was not to worry about it. You won’t know how many OCIs you’ll have until your faculty tells you. Nothing you can do from now until then. When you get your OCI list, what you see is what you get. Make the most of however many OCIs you have. I don’t think there’s a huge difference in chances of success having 2-3 OCIs vs having 10+. Everything happens so quickly once OCIs come around that you don’t want to be worrying about things that are out of your control. When you get your OCI list, remember that they selected you for a reason. Do your best to put your best foot forward and let the universe do its thing. Finally, I think it’s worth noting that OCIs are probably one of a multitude of ways you can end up where you want to be. Don’t lose sight of your career goals on the basis of a recruitment process in 2L. Aim high and keep on truckin’.
  5. I don’t think that’s accurate, because it’s equating an 89 to a B+, which is not the case for most Canadian schools. I think you’d need to figure out what your school considers each percentage grade to be in letter form (ex: at UOttawa, a 70-74% is a B, or 6/10 = 3.0 on LSAC scale). You’d need to convert every single grade you have, multiply each grade by the number of credits for that course, and then divide the whole thing by the total number of credits. I would suspect an 89% average to be in the A- to A range for most schools, so I’d more accurately guess your LSAC gpa to fall in the 3.7-3.8 range. Buts that’s just a guess.
  6. Going to law school isn’t like trying out a new menu item because your friends told you it’s worth it. It’s expensive, it’s time-consuming and it can be quite intense both socially and intellectually. If you aren’t particularly interested in law, I wouldn’t make the jump just because others have brought it up. Too big an investment for that. i would go for what makes you happy - if that’s the PhD, then do it. Maybe it develops an interest in law later on. Maybe it interests you in something new. But by the sounds of it, you may end up working in or studying in the hypothetical PhD field anyway, so why not explore that now? That being said, studying law is an awesome experience and it’s incredibly rewarding. A lot of people who study law don’t end up practising, but choose one of the many other doors law school opens up. On a final note: if you’re truly not interested in practising law, you could always look at doing an LL.M in a particular field of interest (in law) at some point in the future. You don’t need an LL.B or JD for an LL.M, though that could always be helpful. Also, the LL.M is cheaper!
  7. No typo - that’s about accurate. I don’t remember the exact number, but I had a downward trend in the tail end of undergrad. I did have some family emergencies, but not enough to account for the trend.
  8. I was accepted to Queen’s and Western relatively early in the process with a 3.39 CGPA (L2 was closer to 3.0) and 161, 165 LSAT scores. Granted, I took a leap year before applying to get some work experience. I think you have a chance. All comes down to the application materials.
  9. I got the larger Spectre model (15 or 16 inches I think?) and I love it. Super versatile, relatively light for its size, slim, and a very sturdy build. I haven’t used the fold-table feature very much (where you fold the screen back nearly 360 degrees), but that could also be useful if you’re into that. Was a bit pricey though... I think 15 inch screens are in the perfect range of screen vs portability. I don’t think the OS makes a difference - use whatever you prefer.
  10. I think it depends by school. At UOttawa and Queen’s, I think the faculty sets a date for the OCI schedule release, so you may not hear anything until then (usually in early October). Some firms may send an advanced email a week or so before that date. So I suppose you’ll know in early October. Also, most firms don’t send an email, so don’t be sad if you’d don’t get any. I only had one email before the release date, but had something like 11 OCIs scheduled.
  11. Some profs post them online before classes start; some email them before classes start; and some hand them out on day one. As for the books, it’s similar - some profs list the required texts, some will tell you not to buy them and some will give out additional ones. It’s a tough call, but I used to wait until the first course before buying the books.
  12. I'm under the impression it's a 7.5 cut-off - no relation to class standing. Dean's List honours are awarded by semester, so in theory you would see a "Dean's Honour List" notation on your unofficial or official transcript under each semester. The notation shows up on the left-hand side (for winter 2019, it will be near the line that reads "good academic standing as of XX date". Law6543 is right that the notation won't appear on the "My Grades" page, and it won't show on the "My course history" page either. only on the transcript in the Student Center.
  13. Hi There, I was in your shoes last year. I transferred to uOttawa for 2L and I have not regretted it one bit. Granted, I did my undergrad there, so I was already familiar with the school and the city. 1) there certainly are a lot of students, but I don't see that as an impediment. As long as your make an effort to socialize and be friendly with people, I'm sure you'll make friends. As for the cliques, sure, they might exist. But they did at my other law school too. I think it's the product of law school having so many people that are used to academic success crammed into one building, fighting to beat the B curve. I would bet money on the idea that most if not all schools have some sort of cliques or competition to them. Don't let that bother you - just do you. The fact that you were accepted for a transfer means you did relatively well in 1L, so keep up what you're doing and you'll be fine. 2) There is definitely a good number of courses in the business law stream. I myself came from a business background, and have taken a few courses in that area. I know many people that successfully placed in Toronto and Ottawa from the OCI process. I did the Ottawa recruit for national firms and did just fine. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "active group", but there is certainly a good push for the corporate law stream. I don't have any experience with clinics. 3) uOttawa Law gets a bad rap for some reason. I have no clue why. Frankly, I think every law school in Canada is good, because there are so few in the country. The fact that uOttawa only admits 10% or so of its applicants should speak to the exclusivity of the faculty (much like other faculties). In other words, not everyone gets in, and not everyone does well. Plus, the faculty has produced a lot of great legal minds - look at our Chief Justice of Canada. I did have my own negative opinions about the university during my undergrad, but I haven't let that cynicism taint my view of the faculty. Remember that you are one of a limited number of people that gets to study law. What you put it will determine what you'll get out of it. figure out what you want out of your law school experience, and focus on that. don't focus too much on the noise. Modifying the saying a little bit, "you know what they call someone who graduates from uOttawa Law? A future lawyer". That's it. Feel free to PM me or respond here if you'd like to chat more about your potential transfer.
  14. Hi all, I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with the internal application process for clerkships at the ONCA and the SCC. From what I understand, applications go to the Dean and Vice-Dean, and a few candidates are selected for interviews with the Dean. If successful, selected applicants are "recommended" by the Dean to the courts. Has anyone gone through this process? If so, what was it like? Any Tips? What exactly is the Dean's recommendation? Can you still apply with the recommendation? Thanks!
  15. Is there any way to know what percentage of students make the Dean’s list or get above the 7.5 threshold? I asked if they had a ranking and it looks like they don’t anymore (for the English JD anyway). I fell like giving out Dean’s list honours to anyone with a 7.5 kinda dilutes it’s value...unless a 7.5 truly is competitive (around top 10%. any insight?
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