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  1. Definitely do a clinic - DLS isn't your only option, U of T has a fair few. Also, take advantage of Asper Centre/IHRP working groups - they're often in cool topic areas and tend to be low-time commitment. Also definitely do at least one oral advocacy thing - even if you don't win, the experience is excellent preparation for later, and may help you decide what your areas of interest are.
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    Things I Wish I Knew (Before Starting Law School)

    I would echo exercise -- it's a great opportunity to be social/de-stress/take some time to turn off your brain. But I knew that before coming to law school. What I wish I knew more about before starting law school was how important time management is once you get here. It is completely possible to do well in classes and have lots of free time, but you have to be very aware of your time management as you move through, and you have to be aware of how much you are committing to at any one time. I found 1L much easier in terms of time management than 2L, because in 2L, I decided to do a bunch of extra stuff that required an unanticipated amount of extra commitment. Needless to say, wish I'd planned a bit better!
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    best law movies

    I we're including Netflix series, I second Rake, though it's satire and set in Australia! Seven Seconds was ok too, but very different tone from Rake of course.
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    Getting Married in Law School

    That's helpful! I hope that's not your real fake name
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    Getting Married in Law School

    I've actually wondered about this - not in the marriage context, but because I have a name that is somewhat ethnic-sounding and is hard for people to read and pronounce. I would never Anglicize my legal name just for the sake of fitting in, but I have wondered about changing parts of my name, or going by a different name once I start practicing in order to give clients etc. an easier time. Does anyone do this? Go by a different first name, for instance, while interacting with clients and then have their legal name on their law license/on paper? Does that just create more confusion than it resolves?
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    Law Jobs without 70 hour work weeks?

    I guess the point of the above is that you'll be putting in a lot of time and thought into a legal career, so if your criteria are "not too many hours" it may turn out to be more burdensome to get there than you first think.
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    Law Jobs without 70 hour work weeks?

    Lots of lawyers work far less than 70 hours per week for sure! I second that legal clinic work is usually pretty regular from lawyers I've met in the area. I've heard real estate can be very chill too. But you'll have to attend law school first, and to have your pick of the jobs, you'll want to put time into your studies and clinics and recruitment processes and mooting and a lot of other commitments that can bring you up to 70 hours for several weeks per year. By no means will you have no spare time, but you'll have to always be very conscious about managing your time well.
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    Non-OCI Recruit - 2019 Toronto 2L Summer

    Thanks! I think y'all have helped confirm my intuitions on this
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    Non-OCI Recruit - 2019 Toronto 2L Summer

    Does anyone have general advice on whether taking a research position for 2L summer might hurt an applicant in the articling recruit? The context is that I may have to make a choice between doing research in my area of interest for future practice, or take a more litigation-y job that is not in my area of interest. If I have both research and litigation-like experience on my CV already, what is better if I want to later seek articles in my interest areas?
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    How valuable is experience ......

    Any experience you can frame as useful is useful. Seems like the experience you listed shouldn't be too hard to fit into a persuasive story about why you would be interested in/ ready for law school. Think about what skills/experience you developed and try to put your experience in terms of what would be useful for law school. It doesn't totally matter what the experience is, but rather what you learned/ what it says about your maturity/character/aptitudes/interests and how that fits with the broader story you're trying to tell about your plans for/post law school.
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    Letter of recommendation/reference letter

    I had one prof who taught me in first year and with whom I remained in contact for the full four years. I sometimes dropped by their office hours just to chat etc. So it was a no-brainer to just drop by in person and ask for a reference letter. I had another prof whom I met in third year, while working on my law school application, and I was doing well in their course, so I met with them a few times in office hours, and asked a few questions about the course, talked about the subjects in my essay, talked about myself a bit -- then eventually asked for a reference letter. I built some rapport -- at least over the course of a few conversations -- before asking in each case. I personally think that's somewhat necessary to get a good reference letter, but of course I have only anecdotal evidence.
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    "why law school x" question

    I put in a line or two about location at the end of my applications - for Toronto schools, I just mentioned that I wanted to stay in my hometown, and that Toronto was an important hub of the legal profession in Canada or some such thing. Couldn't have hurt -- and McGill asked me about why I wanted Montreal when they interviewed me on the phone!
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    What would YOU do?

    Hey! I agree with the people who say 23 isn't "old" for law school at all. Also, congrats on finding a really solid banking job and getting off the ground after moving here. In answer to your hypothetical: If I were you, I would stick with my Scotia job and think about what I like/what I want to change about my career. My first step would be to see if there's a job at my existing workplace that I could switch to or get promoted to through some efforts, and otherwise see what kinds of jobs are otherwise available to me without me having to invest anything into additional training etc. If those options seem exhausted, I would take some time to think about my ideal job and how to get there. If, after that, I settled on a job that required a law degree/ bar membership, then I would start thinking about law school. If I had your stats, I would probably feel a bit discouraged, looking at the admission data for most of the Canadian law schools. I would consider whether I was necessarily going to 1) get into and 2) keep up with a law school class. I would reflect on whether my stats/LSAT reflected my best effort and either take the LSAT again if I thought I would do better, or think about how I might otherwise show that I have what it takes to perform alongside those with better stats. Moving back to me: I'm a law student and I want to give you the advice I often give to people in person as well as on this forum. Ignore this advice if you've already done this: As you think about what career you want to choose, think hard about what kind of work you actually want to be doing on a day-to-day basis. Law school is quite costly in terms of time, money, and opportunity cost no matter where you go. If you have a solid job at Scotiabank, think about what you like about that job/ what you don't like about that job/ and what kind of job would be better for you. Then, as you think about becoming a lawyer, talk to some people in the profession and talk to some people from other professions, and see what kinds of jobs they do. Then, think about whether you want to go to law school and which one and all that. You don't have to go to law school to have a great career, and if there's a job you've dreamed of doing all your life, you may be able to do that job or something similar without the law degree, depending on what it is. Again, this isn't to discourage you at all, but just to note that law school is expensive in more ways than one and if you think there's a chance that you'll be able to get that great career without the expense, you should weigh that first -- especially if it seems like your stats are not the most competitive right now/ there's a chance you'll struggle if admitted.
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    Did I just screw myself?

    I wouldn't recommend writing a third time unless you're somehow going to be able to do significantly better than either of your previous scores. It's costly to keep taking the LSAT, and it comes with diminishing marginal returns. Might be worth cutting your losses and thinking about how to improve your app in other ways... personal statement could save you if there's lots of interesting experience and a strong narrative whose logical next step is your legal education.
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    Ask a 3L!

    OMG This.