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  1. My firm environment is extremely collegial and supportive. If students are going into their big law summers thinking they can consistently gym midday they’re going to be sadly mistaken. When did this become accepted practice? You can leave and gym if you’re not busy. I’m not disputing that. However, you can’t stretch the flexibility of no direct oversight to such an extent to then say you can maintain a consistent gym schedule during the work day. No one will be keeping tabs on you, but when you’re not available when someone needs your assistance it’s going to be remembered. The probability of this happening is much higher when you’re always at the gym VS getting lunch. The argument becomes even more nonsensical when one can just wake up and gym before work work. Firms aren’t here to cater to the intricacies of each person’s lifestyle.
  2. First, where exactly do you work? If your superiors are well aware of your consistent and midday gym sessions I’d like to submit my CV. OP asked about a consistent regime. I cannot think of one associate at my firm that takes hours off to gym midday. Litigation, no way you’re on the courts hours. Corporate or real estate, how exactly is one doing a financing outside of bank hours? Let’s regress a bit and even comment on student life wherein your at the will of whoever is delegating work. If you’re not in the office, irrespective of “sneaking”, you’re not truly where you’re supposed to be or doing what you’re supposed to be doing. Second, my point is that you likely won’t be there in 15 if you’re at the gym. Turn this into a consistent pattern and someone will question why you’re never available, especially those senior partners who dominate their juniors’ time. Third, I commend any student or young associate who advances the laissez fair attitude of yours as to when someone should be working. Someone should “technically be working” during work hours, which ultimately align with your clients work hours, which tends to be when advice is rendered, which ultimately trickles down to juniors’ assistance. It’s not simply going to “dick around” when you know you’re needed. It’s about never being around when you are needed. Lastly, no being at the gym doesn’t sink your reputation. Similar to what I said above - if you’re not available when needed, and it’s a recurring pattern of unavailability between 1-3 for example because you can’t gym from 7-9, I do believe it will. The unfortunate thing for students and juniors is that the negative stands out much more than the positive. If you’re willing to risk the downside then go for it, get the midday pump.
  3. If you’re now considering walk time then walking to the gym, getting changed, working out, getting changed again, and walking back to the office is much more than an hour. To the OP, just work out in the morning or after work. I snuck out for a workout once during my summer and the managing partner called me to come see him in his office. Sorry I’m at the gym VS sorry I’m out for lunch (I’ll be there in 15) isn’t viewed with the same mindset. Also, if you’re going to suggest lying, I’ve seen young associates get escorted to the door quickly for lying about where they are when they’re technically supposed to be working. It’s true that no one keeps tabs on you but is it really worth it when you can just AM gym.
  4. I remember a similar situation wherein I realized I went the wrong way with an exam response with only about 10 minutes left in the exam. I sporadically wrote out a barebones answer to end up with a B in the course. I was annoyed with my performance as well. However, use it as motivation to excel in the following exams rather than dwell on the past performance. One can approach these situations in two ways. You can let the past performance hinder future performance, or you can use the mistakes as motivation to prove to yourself that you can succeed and excel. In my case I ended up with almost straight As for the rest of my exams despite the B I got on the first exam due to my silly mistake.
  5. Doing mandated work isn’t studying in my opinion. You’re not “studying” the materials. You’re reading them, noting them, and then later “studying”. The fact that omitting to do the foregoing then encompassing all work required before your exams as “studying” is misleading because in reality you’re just catching up on work you failed to do.
  6. High level notes = not detailed. Much like a high level summary doesn’t delve into the unnecessary detail because it’s high level. It’s not my problem law students don’t do the readings, fail to understand the material, then panic come exam time.
  7. I’m articling at the moment. Before class I read the cases and made high level notes (a practice of which faded severely in 2L and 3L depending on the profs slides). If the prof uses slides that got posted before class i would type them out so I could actually listen to the lecture rather than frantically type each syllable that comes out of the prof’s mouth. I would then underline key info from my pre typed notes that seemed important. Depending on how proactive I felt I would start preparing my summaries early December for mid December exams. I doubt I spent more than a week on each summary. Following which I would “study” by conjuring scenarios in my head, and then practice finding the information in my TOC and summary. If I thought I was struggling with the material I would read over the online posted UBC law exams to see how I would answer the questions and where the information relevant to the answer to was in my summary. Maybe only once or twice I wrote out a mock exam response. If my memory serves me correct I only did it for constitutional law in 1L. I never tried to memorize substantive information or study the topics in any detail once my summaries were done. This is useless. As long as you can flip through your summary quickly and accurately, summarize the law neatly and succinctly, then apply the law accordingly, you should do fine. Of course it goes without saying that exam studying is particularized to your own styles.
  8. Much less than undergrad. Create your summary, get familiar with your TOC, perhaps do a practice exam, and then move on. You shouldn’t be “studying” your materials in the traditional sense.
  9. You say plaintiff side litigation is fighting against the "big guy". I say plaintiff litigators try to jam circles into squares and then settle for pennies on the dollar with a rich corporation who wants you to leave it the fk alone.
  10. To you what seemed like hinting was to the partner just the natural flow of conversation between two people with likely not a lot in common. In any events whats the worst thing that can happen if you call?
  11. Saw this thread earlier today and contemplated telling my boring story of my first full weekend of work while articling, which was two weeks ago. Strangely enough, the partner on the file followed up with me a few hours ago giving me enough work to take away this weekend as well. Beware all, this thread is cursed.
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