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Everything posted by BlockedQuebecois

  1. The environment at Osgoode is also very distinct from the environment of York. I would die if I was forced to go to York every morning. Going to Osgoode, with it's nice building, woodlot outside, and pretty library is much more bearable. Plus my commute is significantly shorter now that the polar bears have eaten a bunch of the undergrads.
  2. Well if it wasn't the first 992, what were the odds it was this one
  3. I’m going to respond generally because I’ve got to get going and people seem to really want their casual interest in soccer to be validated as an interesting and unique aspect of their existence that will somehow make them competitive for jobs. Here’s my TL;DR on the soccer issue, because it’s a boring conversation and I have actual interviews to prep for tomorrow: Soccer isn’t an upper-class hobby, it’s a pan-class hobby. People in Canada who like soccer tend to intensely like soccer. Come ready to discuss soccer intensely if you list it, including a working knowledge of most leagues and their best teams, at a minimum. Here’s my TL;DR on what to put on your resume: Whatever you want. Just know that if you list an interest you dont really have it will be clear, and if you list an interest that’s actually intensely boring, like casually watching cars drive in circles, you’ll come across as intensely boring. If however, you really love watching cars go round in circles and can talk about it enthusiastically and in-depth, you’ll come across as interesting and enthusiastic. You could talk about your intense love for carousels and be just as interesting and enthusiastic, so the actual subject doesn’t matter (unless, as noted, the purpose of the interest is to signal class). I’ve been involved in hiring and promotion decisions in the past, though outside of the legal field. I got 1L interviews by taking my own advice. That’s the extent of my expertise, take it or leave it.
  4. Maybe I have an impressive resume for a law student (I never thought I did), but my problem has always been cutting down my resume. Sure, if you need fluff then add fluff, I guess. I just don’t think you should need fluff. My strategy in that case would be on becoming a more interesting person so that my resume needs to be cut down.
  5. I never said you have to actively watch all the foreign leagues. I said you had to have a knowledge of them. Look, you do you. Your job prospects aren't really a concern of mine, I was just giving my thoughts. If you disagree and feel that listing soccer as an interest is a good representation of your interests, and you feel you can actually spin it into a conversation then go for it. It's not going to give off the upper-class vibe you were talking about, and it has a way higher probability of falling flat because of the intensity of soccer fans — I stand by both of those statements — but it's your resume and your career, so you do you.
  6. The things you list are pretty active engagement though. You're talking about an active, demonstrable interest in film and a really in-depth knowledge of the only basketball league that really matters. That's really different than casually watching a sport or watching film and reading reviews, but never engaging in discourse about it.
  7. Is that the most interesting thing you have to put on your resume? If it is, then yeah, go ahead. I just don't think that's all that interesting, and it's certainly not going to lead to an interesting conversation. Interviewer: So, I see you like soccer! Did you see Messi's pass to Iniesta against Juventus? And Buffon's save? I think I could attempt that pass a hundred times and never thread it through the legs. You: Oh, yeah I don't really watch soccer. I play it though! Interviewer: (well that's too bad, I'm so bored of talking about law school, oh well) Oh, excellent. Did you play for your university team? I loved playing varsity back during my days at McGill Law! You: Oh, yeah no. I've played rec soccer for the past 15 years. Interviewer: (Really? Rec soccer is the most interesting thing you could think of for your resume?) Oh, okay... so what position do you play? *At this point, the conversation is pretty much dead. There's not many interesting things to talk about in the world of recreational soccer.
  8. My assumption is that there are very few people who really follow the artistic elements of cinema but don't share that passion with others? But yeah, if your passion for cinema is limited to watching films alone in your basement and never discussing them or sharing that passion with others, yeah, leave it off.
  9. You don't tell people you have a team in every league. You need a knowledge of all of them.
  10. Yeah, that's the general theme. What we consider lower class sports are also the sports that lower-class, racialized individuals are disproportionately likely to play. Same as with soccer, if you follow the artistic elements of cinema then I think you should list it — that's a legitimate interest. Example: if you really liked Black Panther because Wakanda is a fun name and the car chase was lit, leave it off. If you really loved the Shape of Water because Guillermo del Toro uses his cinematographic choices to convey a sense of tenderness you haven't experienced since you read Oscar Wilde's letter to Lord Alfred Douglas, put it in.
  11. Sure, you can list whatever you want. But if you list that and it turns out that you kinda follow one league and can't play worth shit, what does that say to an employer? Answer: it says you're such a boring person that the most interesting thing you can list on your resume is equivalent to "marathoned 'friends' over reading week." If that's the vibe you want to give, all the power to you.
  12. I'd disagree on the Eredivisie. Maybe it's because I know a bunch of Dutch people in BC, but I've found it's still expected that you have a knowledge of the league. That didn't change when I got here, though we did have a bunch of Dutch exchange students this year. Sure, it's a relic of the past for the most part, but it's still relevant. Maybe it's because the Dutch national team has been so strong in the recent past. I agree with @providence both about basketball being an example (though it's a bit safer in Toronto due to the success of the Raps) and about mainly putting interests that you actively participate in on your resume. If you played rec soccer throughout your life (and still do) and know a bunch about soccer, I think you can put it on. If you played soccer at a high level, ditto. But if all you've done is watch it, meh. Would you put "game of thrones" on your resume? Edit to add: other examples of lower-class sports would be track and field, skateboarding, etc. Think sports that are low cost and require limited equipment.
  13. F1 is definitely higher class than NASCAR, but I've never met anyone who considers F1 to a be an upper-class thing. At the very least, it's not giving off the upper-class vibe that something like sailing does. I agree with you that soccer isn't lower-class; like I said, it's pan-class. Agree re: recent immigrants being more likely to be interested. My point was solely that it's not going to give off the upper-class vibe since it's such a pan-class sport at this point. It also won't give off a lower class vibe, like some sports would (for mainly racial reasons). The risk with soccer is that people who love soccer love soccer. If you put it on a resume and a ethnically-Spanish partner at *insert Bay Street firm* gets excited to talk to you about it you need to be ready to discuss la liga in detail. I wouldn't put soccer on my resume unless (1) I played soccer at a reasonably high level (varsity minimum, if not professionally), or (2) I had the knowledge to discuss the premier league, la liga, league one, serie A, and the bundesliga at a minimum (preferably you would have a working knowledge of primiera liga, dutch eredivisie, and the more famous clubs outside of those leagues as well)*. There are just too many ways I've seen a conversation about soccer flop due to knowledge imbalance to risk it. *Note: obviously you should be knowledgeable about the champions league at all times, the world cup during the year directly after it, and the European championship the year directly after it as well.
  14. Interestingly, Persian is also correct, which I just learned.
  15. F1 is a lower class sport. You may find people that are interested in it, but it's not going to give off the upper-class vibe that's associated with the interview bump. Same deal with soccer, though interest in soccer tends to be pan-class. Be warned that if you find a Canadian soccer fan they're likely going to have a fanatical knowledge of the sport, since it's hard to keep up with overseas leagues (well, it's not actually, but when you have all the sports we have here it is). If you put soccer on your resume you better be ready to talk shop.
  16. Just because people seem really confident in asking literally everyone to be a cosigner, you all know what that means right? It means they're underwriting your entire debt. You're essentially asking them to borrow $100,000, and you're asking them that because the bank has already determined that you're not reliable enough for them to lend you $100,000. You shouldn't be asking people to cosign a loan for you unless you would be comfortable asking them to borrow $100,000.
  17. I really wouldn't advise you to go to Bay Street only for the financial considerations. You'll end up miserable. I think you're overestimating the cost of moving. UBC's tuition is nearly $20,000 less per year than Osgoode's. It doesn't cost $60,000 to move from Ontario to BC. I did it (in reverse) for about $1,500.
  18. Osgoode allows students to take 4 months off without question once they're done first year. So if OP could make it through 1L, they could take off one semester in 2L and raise more money. I'm not sure how bay street gigs would handle this, though. @OP, do you want to work on bay street? And would you be open to going somewhere less expensive next year, say UBC or UVic?
  19. It’s practically brand new at Osgoode, which is why it’s limited to only 10 students.
  20. I’d endorse @theycancallyouhoju‘s interpretation of my statement, for the most part. I’d caveat it with the fact that, in Canada, you likely need to speak three European languages to really stand out, assuming French is one. My comment about minorities was geared towards the fact that many minorities speak the language of their home country, so if you’re of Mexican ancestry and speak Spanish or Haitian and speak French, nobody is going to be impressed.
  21. I think that's a terrible approach to life, and an even worse approach when you consider that you're entering a profession in which an abstract concept — reputation — is literally all you've got.
  22. It's at least three steps beyond an "option of last resort" for me. As @providence said, people need to have some pride. I barely like asking my parents for money (and in fact, I haven't since they paid my first month's rent when I moved out). I can't imagine asking a professor to underwrite six figures in debt for me.
  23. I wouldn't ask a professor. That's incredibly inappropriate and strikes me as poor form. Even if you never need to talk to them again, I'm not a fan of leaving bad impressions on people.
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