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Everything posted by BlockedQuebecois

  1. I wasn't even aware that law students cared.
  2. 15k, now. https://www.osgoode.yorku.ca/programs/juris-doctor/financial-services/fund-law-school/bursary-program/
  3. Man, imagine how good a paper I must have written to overcome this great adversity.
  4. What an incredibly boring life you're in for.
  5. I can assure you that every semi-political class I have ever been in has had conservatives whine that they need to be "fake woke" to get an A. I can assure you that in each and every one of those classes I have presented a thoughtful, conservative essay and received a fine grade. Perhaps you're right and you found the only professor/TA combination I can think of that would risk their careers to punish a student for having conservative views on a stupid essay worth three credits that everyone thinks is a joke. Perhaps you're wrong, and you're just not good at presenting conservative ideas in a persuasive, nuanced way. I guess we'll never know. All I can say is that I am confident that, during my year and a half at Osgoode, I have never gotten a worse grade on an assignment, examination, or paper due to my political beliefs.
  6. Oh please, I wrote a full defense of the dominant model of legal practice and the conception of the lawyer as an amoral technician and received an A+ in ELGC. If you have a sound argument and have clearly thought out your viewpoint, you'll be rewarded.
  7. First off, I didn’t ask for a study. I said there was no evidence to support your hypothesis. I don’t think you need to be so adversarial just because your argument got challenged. If you have any evidence, feel free to support your point! Second off, what is this history of unethical behaviour? Are you lumping predatory, for-profit schools in with state schools and similar? If so, why? Third, why do you think this “game of chance” behaviour would be preferable to straight tuition increases? Why do you think this is more ripe for abuse than the current system?
  8. Because there’s no evidence that your concerns will come to fruition, and it’s not logical to think that they will. If a university wanted to make more money, why would they use this program instead of simply increasing tuition or fees? I think that’s the explicit purpose of the Income Sharing Agreement. We as a society seem to like the idea of the successful subsidizing the less successful, I’m not sure why we’d object to it in this context. I would push back on that. If universities were solely focused on profit, there would be no reason to offer bursaries or assistance to low income students. But even if we did agree on this topic, I fail to see why or how this program could be used to more effectively generate profits than just straight up tuition and fee hikes.
  9. I don't think there's anything actually logically inconsistent with holding the thoughts that: 1. Tuition is too high at Ontario universities. 2. Students attending university should primarily pay for university through loans that are interest-free during school, not grants. You're welcome to dislike the policies, but they're not inconsistent. And like I said above, grants to students based on parental income is actually a pretty shitty, inefficient system. I don't know why anybody would actually support that type of policy (outside of self-interest). Same deal with the "free tuition" debate in the US. If you want to help students afford a post-secondary education, there are a million better ways to do so.
  10. Also the matter of helping the actual students. University is cyclical, and it would take ~4 years for inflation to have the same effect as a 10% tuition cut. If you believe that tution costs are too high for current students, then using a tuition freeze doesn't fix the problem.
  11. Okay, so what's your stance on the actual system Lamba has actually put in place? It seems silly to rip apart an idea based on hypotheticals that haven't happened yet. You're wrong about the zero-sum nature of this program, by the way. There's a lot of money to be made by universities and saved by students by cutting out the middleman of student loan providers.
  12. Nobody at Shangri-La event in Vancouver wore jeans when I went – it was a mix of suits (with or without tie) or dress pants with a collared shirt + sweater of some type. If you have a suit, wear that. If you don't, I would recommend dress pants, a dress shirt, and maybe a cardigan or sweater.
  13. I don't think you can call 17% of your income, capped at $30,000, "crippling". Let's look at a hypothetical model student, who makes $70,000 and lives in California, a high tax state. That student would be taking home approximately $4,357 per month, and have a ISA contribution of $991 for 24 months. That works out to a shade under 23% of their income going to student loan repayments. So long as they weren't able to get a job making $50,000 before the program they're coming out ahead during repayment, and even if they were able to make that before, they'll be significantly ahead as soon as repayment ends two years later.
  14. As mentioned. One of those alone is not sufficient.
  15. You honestly just kind of figure it out. There are a bunch of opportunities that really only open up to people near the top of the class, generally. You'll see them during the 1L recruit, at NY OCIs, in NY, at meetings about clerkships (and importantly, they'll have received the Administration's email encouraging them to apply to clerkships). They'll be Dean's Fellows for a professor. They'll get jobs at impressive off-Bay firms early on. They'll be in competitive, grades based clinics. You'll see their work product and be able to infer their grades. To a certain extent, you'll discuss grades with them. None of those factors alone (except, perhaps, NY) would prove someone is in the top of their class, but when you take them all into consideration you can start to piece together a decent picture. By no means would I say I could accurately list the top 30 students at Osgoode in my year. But I think I could rattle off 20 names and be 95% confident that they're currently in the top 10% of students.
  16. And as we all know, responses on this forum are strictly limited to responses to the OPs question. No deviation shall be allowed.
  17. If only a U of T student would grace us with their presence. They could surely explain this incredibly complicated 15/30/45-55/10-0 grade distribution scale and somehow map it onto the much, much simpler 15/60/20/5 grade distribution.
  18. I don't think it's overly hard to look at a grade distribution, map it onto grade distributions for other schools, and compare.
  19. Yes. That was pretty much the point of the new system. It hides the below average students to the detriment of the good ones.
  20. Dude you've gone through every permutation of layout now. An LP is a D or very low C. A P encompasses the C+ to B range. An H is a B+. An HH is an A. Those roughly map out onto the Osgoode curve.
  21. No, you're not. U of C is cheaper, in your and personal professional network, and where you want to practice for the foreseeable future. Go to U of C.
  22. Sometimes people need to be condescended to. One example is when someone tries to advise people on six-figure financial decisions without a shred of actual financial knowledge.
  23. I think you're really underestimating the number of strong students on Bay Street. You're right that many students in the top 5-10% of the class pursue careers off Bay Street. But if you think about it, that makes perfect sense. Top students are, essentially, a random sampling of law students. There's no reason to expect that the top students in law school would have less diverse interests than the student body as a whole. And further, students in the top percentiles are able to pursue those careers easily and with less risk because they're able to land higher-paying jobs in those fields early (to say nothing of options such as clerkships, which frankly aren't available to most students). Anyways, I know, roughly, who the top 5-10% of the students in my class are. Of them, I'd say >50% are pursuing big law in a major metropolitan city. That number will drop as clerkships go out, but I would wager it will still stay around the 50% mark come graduation.
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