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Everything posted by BlockedQuebecois

  1. Disagree. The proper way to wear a two button suit is with the top button done up when standing and undone when sitting. When someone departs from that standard, it's noticeable (particularly if they sit with the button done up). It doesn't truly matter, but in the context of trying to look like you know how to wear a suit, it's best to just follow the damn rules.
  2. If they don’t get drinks, politely excuse yourself and find a different firm dinner to crash.
  3. Where have you even heard that? That’s absurd advice.
  4. That story, much like every other good story, has been greatly exaggerated.
  5. Students aren’t registered in 3L courses by the time they’re submitting upper year course lists. Hell, for the 1L recruit there isn’t even a list of courses being offered the next year. And I would argue that listing a course you intend to drop is more dishonest than listing the course you intend to take, even if you’re currently registered in the first one. Listing a clinic is (probably) statistically unlikely to be honest, but that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t list them if they intend to apply and take the clinic if offered a position. There are lots of “honest” answers to what courses someone intends to take a year and a half from now. Pretending there’s no degrees of honesty in the question is silly.
  6. There are degrees of honesty on this topic, though. Say a student is registered in one class for 2L second semester, and first on the wait list for another that they’ll take over the one they’re registered in. Say the same student knows the wait list has historically moved 10 spots for that particular class. What’s more honest, listing the class they’re currently registered in or the one they’ll end up taking? Similarly, say a student wants to take two course, crim pro and civ pro II, in 3L, but they’ll only have room for one. What should they do? Is it dishonest to put crim pro when applying to crim position and civ pro II when applying to others? What if the student will take whichever is more applicable to their articling experience? And that’s before you even get into the issue of competitive seminars, clinics, and moots.
  7. This is inaccurate. First, McCarthy’s is only formally confirmed to have raised salaries for their articling students, not their summers. Second, Davies hasn’t announced a salary raise yet - they’ve been at $1,850 for years. Third, Davies articling students make $1850, not their summers. When I did the recruit they were paying summers $1600 or $1650, with BJs paying $1700, I believe. Also, I think Faskens bumped their articling pay to $1800.
  8. No recruiter in the world is going to care if you change a few courses from the time you submit an application to the time you submit your final transcripts. Mine have changed radically, and certainly nobody at my firm gives a damn. I also think @wtamow‘s story about a recruiter is dumb. Students should take what they’re interested in – if you know after 1L what you want to practice and you can fill your schedule with classes that genuinely interest you, you should. That said, just be honest. If a firm isn’t going to hire you because you took Crim Pro, you probably don’t want to work at that firm. And needless to say, if you’re interested in criminal law, become a criminal lawyer. I’m watching all my 2L friends that obviously want to practice something not-big-law freak out and apply to big law firms right now. It’s sad to see, and I hope they realize their mistake before it’s too late.
  9. Only ~65% of US law school graduates are employed as lawyers full time, and 11% are unemployed immediately post-grad. I don’t think the Canadian outcomes are pathetic at all. Professions don’t, and shouldn’t, equal guaranteed employment. The only reason law students seem to think that is and should be true is because they constantly compare themselves to Med students (despite the radical differences in difficulty, career path, and employers between the two fields). The day law students figure out that the proper comparator group is closer to people with bachelors degrees than medical degrees, they’ll be a lot happier with their lot in life.
  10. How many of your own call to the bar ceremonies have you gone to?
  11. And which of those sources discusses discusses the access to justice issues caused by the “certificates that [defendants] can take to hundreds of lawyers”? (I’ll help you, because everyone here knows you haven’t read a single one of those documents – none of them do, because there’s no access to justice issues caused by an excess supply of criminal defence lawyers)
  12. I’ll bite: what part of the Jordan decision or academic commentary on it discusses the access to justice issues caused by the “certificates that [defendants] can take to hundreds of lawyers”?
  13. Those aren’t the issues you identified though. You said that criminal law is hard to break into because there’s so much excess supply of lawyers taking on LA certs, and that PI law is hard to break into because there’s an excess supply of lawyers willing to work on contingency. Think about what you’re saying here. You can’t simultaneously argue that it’s hard to get into an area of law because the supply of lawyers exceeds demand and that there are access to justice issues due to lack of supply of lawyers. There are access to justice issues in criminal law – they’re just separate from the economics of being a solo new call.
  14. Because grades are at least somewhat based on non-effort factors such as intelligence, writing ability, etc, and by virtue of the curve most students will get a B or B+ (or whatever a school curves to).
  15. Both your examples don’t engage access to justice issues. You’re literally saying that certificate clients have too many competent criminal lawyers to go to and that PI clients are able to get access to justice because of the contingency structure PI lawyers use.
  16. But what I’m saying is that a many law students (I would argue most law students) are just going to get the same grades regardless of their effort level (within reason). If I was a B student who would get a B while gunning it and would get a B while slacking, I’d slack.
  17. SCC and ONCA are post Christmas (well into January). I think AB was the only court which had applications due before Christmas, and they required applicants to send their fall grades when they became available.
  18. In fairness, most people in law school just pass their courses. If I was a B/B+ student in 1L and 2L and could be a B/B+ student in 3L by riding the curve, why wouldn’t I?
  19. Woah woah woah. Do you mean to tell me that it’s conceivable for some businesses to interview candidates in different ways based on their internal HR philosophy? Crazy. What a world.
  20. None of the firms I interviewed with last year conducted telephone interviews first.
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