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Everything posted by BlockedQuebecois

  1. Mixing metaphors, I see. I’m incredibly offended. Just because I could totally pull off a powder blue suit does not mean I would have the poor taste to do so.
  2. Oooh, who am I? Also, fun thread idea.
  3. No, the other winter of second year. I don’t know why you doubt that. Essentially all the big law firms essentially guarantee an articling position to their summer classes. Big law summer classes certainly constitute “many” students.
  4. Depends on the student. The vast majority of JD students leave law school with articles. Many students will have their articling positions locked-down by the winter of their second year.
  5. If you think the life sciences sound horrible and life sucking, wait till you get to law school!
  6. The LSAT really doesn’t require any kind of studying. I don’t know why you think that. The fact that people do doesn’t mean it’s required.
  7. I feel like the average highly intelligent person would do fine on the LSAT. The LSAT is essentially an IQ test, seeing as it tests no substantive knowledge. Certainly anecdotally the high IQ people I know have done fine on the LSAT.
  8. There is literally no evidence of grade deflation at U of T post-reform. Unless you count the whining of countless undergraduates, but then every school in Canada is suffering from an epidemic of grade deflation that puts the Spanish Flu to shame.
  9. Unless you're flunking out of law school by the end of the semester, there would need to be some other serious problems for a firm not to hire you back for articling. And no firm is going to hire back an articling student with poor reviews and better grades over an articling student with good reviews and worse grades.
  10. It likely does depend on the person, and I don’t deny that clinics and intensives are beneficial. I think they’re the best, most practical part of law school. That said, if I was doing public interest work, I’d rather have 42k more in the bank than a semester at Parkdale.
  11. Pretty much what pzabby said. The law isn’t terribly complicated. You could learn everything you learn from a law school course in 4 days if you needed to. You could easily design a first-year curriculum with enough courses to be actually difficult (say, 7 per semester) and enough electives to allow for specialization and you’d spit out essentially identical law students. Hell, they might be able to handle stress a bit better, too.
  12. No, but I think law school is, post-1L, largely a waste of time.
  13. Yes, it’s possible. I think you can fit in a maximum of 7 if you apply to the right ones at the right time. I got offered two others for 3L, but turned both down (however, I only could have fit one of those into my schedule, not both). And obviously involvement in clinics in 1L is much different from the clinics and intensives in upper years.
  14. I disagree with @Deadpool. I don’t think Osgoode’s additional clinical opportunities are worth 42k. Western also offers internships, works with PBSC, has a wide range of courses and many student organizations. The only place I would give Osgoode the edge is re: clinics. I’ve done five clinics or intensives at Osgoode now, and I don’t think they’ve added 42k in value to my degree.
  15. Transferring to U of T is unlikely to help you in the NY recruit, seeing as that happens during your 1L summer.
  16. My point is that there's no pressing need to protect law students. They're smart, privileged individuals. They don't need our paternalism, and the idea that they do – and that they need protection so badly that we should shield them from a competitive job market and potentially harm access to justice to do so – is infantilizing, idiotic, and insulting.
  17. Ah yes, society's pressing need to protect people who are undeniably in the top, what 20% of the population, in terms of both population and privilege. How could we forget that. I've said it before and I'll say it again – society's paternalistic energies could be much better spent protecting the people who need it rather than the wilfully blind law student.
  18. This really isn’t why more lawyers doesn’t decrease legal costs. It’s because law students, in general, have a floor of wages they could make in another field, and thus won’t go below it. If it was the two factors you discussed it wouldn’t matter. Nobody is not taking a legal job that pays poorly because they spent three years in law school or owe a whack of money. They’re not taking a poorly paid legal job because they could make more elsewhere. If it was your reasons, we’d see better access to justice in provinces with lower tuition fees, and that’s simply not the case.
  19. Negotiating from a 40-60 split to: 20% flat rate on accounts brought in, plus a 50-50 split of the remainder; or A tranched system that has you making 60-40 (and your employer only making 28% post-expenses seems incredibly difficult. That's particularly true under your tranched model, where you employer would only stand to make 24k if you bill 100k, 64k if you bill 200k, and 84k if you bill 300k. Just from a business standpoint, it doesn't make much sense to give you more work after a certain point. If office expenses stay stable, your employer would make more money hiring a second lawyer and giving you both 150k in work, since they would make 88k off the two of you (compared to only 84k for you alone). I've never been a business owner, but that's just my gut reaction to your proposals.
  20. There’s market demand for another law school. There’s market demand for smart lawyers. Anybody who argues there’s no need for another law school is being protectionist, plain and simple. “I don’t want to compete in a market” is not a compelling argument.
  21. I added up U of T's tuition fees in each year ($38,233.45 for 1L, $38,183.45 for each of 2 and 3L), and then subtracted the sum of UBC's tuition ($12,639.36 for 1L and $11,849.40 for each of 2 and 3L). In fairness, I did miss UBC's student fees, which are "approximately $1,100 per year for J.D. students", so I guess that drops the price difference to $74,962.19.
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