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  1. As is my usual practice, when my employer (a health regulator in Ontario) posts a relevant job opportunity I troll for candidates. PM me if you are interested. Since I like to maintain at least quasi-anonymity, I won't post a lot of details publically, but if you have strong writing skills, and an interest in administrative law, it might be a good fit. It's a non-practising role (but you can maintain your status as practising and with room to engage in at least some legal work in the role), and I think junior lawyers (even a very recent call) with longer-term interest in regulatory policy and public administration rather than practice might be good candidates for the role. I note I have no involvement in making hiring decisions for the position.
  2. I never did a secondment but some of my colleagues did during articles (and not during the last rotation, as that was not how things were structured). My sense was a good word from the client didn't hurt (they got hired back). That being said I think the general advice above is generally the right move, if it is possible to arrange it that way.
  3. I thought I would draw on the forum’s collective wisdom for advice: I have recently been promoted and will be moving into a managerial/supervisory position, something I have not done before. Any tips on shifting into this type of role? My direct reports will be regulatory investigation staff—ie professionals used to operating fairly autonomously.
  4. The reference was to passive income from practice so I assume what was really meant was a practice that could produce the kind of income desired by the firm. Alternatively it might suggest a practice which could support associates/clerks. As an example: when I was an associate the work I did (and those of clerks) didn’t produce revenues for me—it produced revenues for the partnership who returned some back to me as salary. Most of the revenue I produced didn’t go to me but rather to cover expenses and to the partnership (and especially the partner(s) who were responsible for having the client I worked for pick the firm). This is obviously passive income (in the sense that no active lawyering by a partner was needed to create the revenue).
  5. I practiced a little employment work as an associate. I think your experience will be an asset, particularly for a boutique, in terms of demonstrating a real commitment to the subject area, and would probably grab the attention of some hiring committees. That being said I think your grades would have to be similar to other applicants for such jobs (i.e. the top third, perhaps the top fifth of your class); having never been directly involved in firm hiring, and never having worked in Vancouver, I am not sure how academically selective Vancouver firms are, but I assume similar to Toronto firms. For big firms and prominent boutiques I think they are more likely to stick with academic prowess over a previous professional background, even if it would be helpful, in part because there is some preference for molding associates.
  6. I do regulatory investigation work. Most of the investigation team are lawyers and the work is generally 9-5. Even the pay cut isn’t too bad in the scheme of things. PM me for info if you’re curious (especially because there is a job posting up—it’s a contract but that might not be such a bad thing if you are not 100 percent certain).
  7. I have a friend who works at the OSC and previously worked at the dealer side of things. It sounded interesting but I found securities law quite boring. Which is kind of funny given that I also work for a regulator and the differences across regulators is probably not super large.
  8. I no longer practice so I can now work 9-5 most of the time. Back when I worked in a mid-size Bay Street firm my target was 1700. I worked in litigation and there were peaks and valleys. I generally worked 9-7. I was in weekends for a few hours fairly regularly. I don’t recall the details but in my couple years of practice I made target but the hours billed per month varied a bit. I was not on super large files so I often was doing smaller things. Rarely did I have a day where I could draft all day and I did not do days of document review (I did admin law and human rights—so no lengthy discovery work in most cases). I did one big hearing where I essentially worked 7am-2am for 14 days but otherwise i rarely worked super late. Articling was different but even then I only stayed up past 2am in the office once. As a junior I should compensation was essentially lockstep the first couple years. The firm was shifting away from lockstep for associates but I think that was more for 3-6 year associates (in part to address retention of women).
  9. I work at a regulatory body in a non-legal position and like it, and I still keep my finger in the odd legal aspect (by-law revisions, reg changes, human rights issues, procedural issues internally etc.). My employer pays my dues, my OBA fee, and CLE costs. YMMV. You can pm me if you want.
  10. You can't calculate your hourly wage using your net pay but I agree you shouldn't think about pay in terms of hourly pay as an articling student.
  11. There are also some boutiques that do work for health professionals and institutions. I do regulatory investigations for a health regulator in Ontario—I don’t practice but I do still pay my dues and I deal with the odd legal issues (by-law amendments, human rights issues sometimes, and the odd other issue). Some of the bigger regulators (my employer for instance) also employ in house counsel.
  12. My view generally is work for a year if you can swing the 58k and with a year of practice under your belt you have a lot more flexibility.
  13. I lived in the Annex while articling downtown, and then moved up to Yonge and Davisville for a bit, now live in Greektown. All nice areas with easy subway access, all very doable for articling and cheaper than the closer condos. If you are at a large firm you can almost always cab home as needed.
  14. I know a lawyer there if you want to speak to someone.
  15. I know in some of the regulatory prosecutions in my office the prosecutors (often big name criminal types) use their associates in the bigger hearings.
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