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  1. You're going to get the same response - do you want to work in Toronto/Ontario or Alberta? I'd say in general, Osgoode travels a bit better to the Alberta/Calgary market, but UofA is less visible in Toronto. Speaking mostly about large firms.
  2. Go to Western, and have no regrets about it. You're going to have an awesome time. Work really hard in 1L and be smart about getting upper year summaries - these jobs that you are aiming for really flow from your grades. Have some fun too. Be serious about doing well in 1L and hopefully you can focus a bit more on social life in upper years. Congrats!
  3. Check Lexpert.ca - search by firm and click on news and you can see all the mandates they have been on for clients
  4. I'll bite. I don't really think about firms as a ranked list (like firms 1 through 20 or whatever, which highly depends on practice group), but rather as buckets of firms with slightly different business models. Obviously there are tons of overlap, but at the sake of getting torn apart later by posters and just over-generalizing: Toronto Centric Transactional Focused Firms - Toronto focused, handful or fewer satellite offices, event-driven, focuses on higher stakes corporate mandates (from a Board or Buyer or Target) and servicing a smaller number of highly profitable blue chip and active clients that are willing to pay. Fewer number of lawyers by headcount. Davies Torys Goodmans Cassels Transactional-focused National Firms - Very Frequently advises on the "highest profile" mandates and event driven deals, but also has a national platform with regular roster of blue chip clients (Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Montreal etc). Large officers with many lawyers in other departments on board that frequently advise on corporate and deal aspects of L&E, competition, pensions, RE and the like. Osler Stikeman Blakes McCarthy Tetrault True National Full Service Platforms - Has a roster of blue chip clients but also a freestanding litigation platform that doesn't always depend on corporate to generate work. Offices with almost 100 lawyers or more in each major city. Will advise client on everything and anything (class action, transaction, labour and employment, corporate finance) they require. More likely to have L&E, competition, pensions, RE carry their own files as opposed to just advising on deals aspects. McCarthy (though also strong transactional ranking like above category) BLG NRF Fasken Gowling Dentons Ontario Regional Full Service Firms - active Ontario focused practice that generally deals with middle market and smaller deals in real property, corporate commercial law, litigation, insurance claims etc. More private company work. Weirfoulds A&B Fogler Torkin Manes Blaney Specialized Boutiques - one office, focuses on specific area, often very good at what they do Lenczner Paliare Roland Glaholt Bereskin Smart and Biggar etc. Big transactions more frequently make the paper, hence the Sister moniker for firms in the first two categories. The firm you choose depends may depend on what type of experience you want, whether you want to be a litigator, specialty practice, regulatory or deal lawyer, how you feel about the people at the firm and the hireback rates.
  5. I've seen all different styles. I personally bound every section in one large binder, but bought tab separators on Amazon (from 1 to 32 or however many sections there are) so I could flip to each section quickly. However, I would suggest binding the Table of Contents and Index separately from the materials (so two individual bound books each). It's the documents you'll use most frequently and it's helpful to be able to flip through it easily and to save time.
  6. Often not receiving a return offer in a practice group they desire.
  7. Hi all - I was wondering if someone had some insight on how the lateral process works for those that go from large Toronto firms to New York. Does it typically require legwork (networking), is it a resume drop, or do headhunters looking to place NY Associates just start reaching out to you on linkedin if you at from a large firm in Toronto? What makes you a competitive candidate? I've seen a small (but steady stream) of Articling and 1-3rd year calls take this route over the past few years and was curious. Many thanks in advance.
  8. I don't see a lot of UofC Associates or Articling Students in Toronto at all, but there's certainly Windsor grads at every large firm. I also wouldn't place my hopes on getting into Big Law in Calgary and then lateraling over either - that's a lot of steps that have to go correctly. Getting Calgary BigLaw isn't a lay-up in and of itself. I would say go to Windsor and network, get good summaries and work your butt off in 1L and try to get grades in the top quarter of your class.
  9. Topic has been discussed at some length in past topics, but probably marginally Osgoode just for a) being in Toronto b) for the number of business oriented clinics you can get involved in (Venture Capital Clinic, Business Clinic, Advanced Business Law Workshop) with practitioners and c) having a bigger nominal number of students that will end up on Bay Street (about 100 total students) that you will be able to call your classmates. But honestly, if you feel better about the culture, environment or atmosphere at Western or Queens, no one will tell you it's the wrong choice. Remember, the firm's recruit you - not the school. Here are the OCI stats for this year: http://ultravires.ca/2019/12/toronto-summer-2020-2l-recruit-numbers/
  10. I’m an Osgoode JD/MBA grad, currently on Bay Street. For what it’s worth, I’d say 80% of the students who wanted Bay Street law jobs got it. This includes students with straight B averages, who I feel confidently would not have gotten as many interviews without the MBA. Of course, the calculation to do the degree is a bit more complicated than that, but you can message me, I’m happy to provide my view and chat.
  11. They also known to charge higher hourly rates and get away with it probably because they focus on higher value and less rate sensitive files. Combine that with the lower headcount, and you got it.
  12. Any updates on firms that have matched this particular scale? I’m curious if Davies will be allowed to be outlier (forever), or if another firm will tip this set of dominoes yet again
  13. Anyone know if firms are applying these raises to this year's incoming articling class as well? Or solely to next year's articling class?
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