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  1. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Thank you for this insightful account, Providence!
  2. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    That is an important question! I’d love to see that too for if they are not substantive then I’d say it’s time for some further refinement.
  3. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    I am sorry who said we are just raging from the outside lol. Clearly, I am acknowledging such systemic issues... and I am commending firms that are adjusting their approaches to account for said issues. Not sure why you seem to think such commendation and call for further refinement is the same thing as stopping one’s life and raging from the outside...
  4. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    I agree with you to an extent. Though, I would like to think that I and others who may agree with the perspective I am advocating for are not just coming from a place of “feeling sorry” for themselves. It is true those from said groups must get their first and ought to strive to do so according to the requirements. I also think it ought to be the case that we shouldn’t just repeat the errors of hiring committees of yesteryear when Jewish lawyers where working their way up. I don’t think it’s the same as it was then this day and age, progress has been made. And, I commend the firms that shun complacency and opt to pursue further progress on this issue by adjusting their approaches to recruitment etc.
  5. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    I do not think this is an appropriate characterization of the issue. This issue being a question of a “basic skill set” is not all that it is. This places all the burden on individuals from underrepresented social groups. While certainly, being personable, kind, and charming, may be considered a basic and valuable skill set for this profession, I do not think a dominant culture informed by certain racial, class, and gender groups that can repeatedly alienate unndrepresented social groups is just something those from said underrepresented social groups should just suck up and deal with lol. Such a dynamic exists, and from my perspective I think it ought to be changed to the extent that it can be changed. To be thinking of how to be more and more inclusive and open to underrepresented social groups is, I think, an important objective of the profession. This objective may very well be advanced by adjusting the interview process in terms of questions or kinds of activities a firm hosts. I am happy to hear your viewpoint is coming from a visible minority perspective. It’s also important to know we don’t all have the same ideas on this issue.
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    So I agree with you on faking it until you make it. And how important it is to be able to mingle and be social lol. I was able to fake it until I made it and I got 3 offers from my three top choices and took my top choice so I’m not hating on the process or calling for its end. The only thing is, i think people and firms should recognize that visible minorities (and others who are not from the dominant culture or class) tend to have this extra burden of having to fake it until they make it, or to exert themselves not to break down mentally due to any feeling of inferiority when they find themselves where the poster laaasy18 found himself in. Doesn’t mean visible minorities should claim victim, throw their hands up and disengage and call foul like someone implied my post was endorsing, it just means to recognize this and if you as a firm or lawyer think it’s a problem then you can adjust for it. I as a VM would commend such a recognition and adjustment, which is what I said in my post in response to hdosajhn’s post that you quoted. For example, lenczner scrapped its receptions on the basis of a similar idea as described above. I even think they specifically referenced a precedent jd article that talks about these same things as one avenue of critique against the oci process. This adjustment to their process I think is commendable. You may disagree, you’re welcome to do so.
  7. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Congratulations! Thank you for your perspective. I too, as a poc male, was particularly impressed by firms that conducted their interviews, or meals, with an awareness that light chit-chat about various social/cultural phenomena (sports, music, travel etc.) may potentially serve as a barrier to those from social groups that do not generally have access to the capital to engage in said activities (travel, for example), or whose cultures otherwise do not allow for much exposure to said activities (certain sports, for example)!
  8. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    I am glad to hear this, i love it when a firm is straightforward, unlike one firm i dealt with that ghosted me and did not update me on how i was cut from their list. Not my experience at all... in fact I thought BLG really went to great lengths to be straightforward with me. Of course, this is may have been because they liked me (I received an offer which I had to regrettably decline). I never said the magic words even though they gave me implicit opportunities to do so if it was true, and on each opportunity I was transparent with them about where my mind was at and it did not hurt my chances. I thought they accommodated my schedule, were upfront about whether certain things entailed an expected attendance (e.g. their top candidates lunch), were prompt with their communications with me, and put me in front of some amazing lawyers throughout the process! So, I am with Nayaab on this one... I was pleasantly surprised that BLG was different than their rumoured reputation!
  9. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Yes I would echo that last point too, I feel like when it’s clear the firm wants you that’s when these “taboo” topics became perfectly fine and understood as necessary for the student. I told numerous lawyers that I don’t care about cultural fit it’s about the insight you can share about the firm and it’s policies on x y z topic... but no way I could do that without having their love first lol
  10. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    same here, when it became clear that a firm wanted me i definitely felt completely fine asking questions about associate training and career development leading to partnership - and i got offers from the firms where such a conversation was had.
  11. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    So I guess we just now wait for an email confirmation or something if we accepted a phone offer? edit: for anyone thinking this, answer is yes, just got an emailed offer letter lol
  12. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Just out of curiosity, when you have to regrettably decline a firm's job offer, why do they ask if they could know which firm you ended up choosing? How could such info shape the firm's recruitment strategy, or is it just about curiosity?
  13. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Yes, a lunch for tomorrow!
  14. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Thank you very much for your perspective!
  15. Ghalm

    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Thank you so much for this insight!!!
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