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  1. I am a soon to graduate Queen's student who had a B+ average leaving 2L, did not have a law job in 1L or any job in 2L summer, and have a really good articling job. PM me if you want and we can set up a call sometime.
  2. That was my cumulative average when I transferred. I got an offer at U of T, didn't apply to the other two. Will depend on a) how competitive transfer applicants. b) your materials. c) how many people leave those schools from the 1L class.
  3. Thats.. .that's just false.
  4. It's entirely reasonable on a Bay St. salary. 105k/Year starting is a 75K net in first year (It's actually more once you take into account the tuition tax credits). Then lockstep raises. If you live frugally you can definitely make Toronto work on 40K net and put 35K/year against debt. It gets easier if you're double income, less easy if you have kids. Even on smaller salaries you can service the debt, but it's not going to be super comfortable.
  5. There's a myth that all arts programs are easy peasy waltz your way to As good times. I like to dispell that rumour when I can.
  6. And since I know you were in sciences, my arts undergrad also curved grades.
  7. My family are proud, I get some lighthearted ribbing because that's what our family does. I get deferred to often enough for legal questions they see in the news. I literally never bring it up unless forced to though. When it is brought up to strangers it's usually a wow/cool/my cousins a lawyer etc. Sometimes you get "you're gonna make a lot of money huh".
  8. I mean, I'd like to be an expert at every kind of law. And also dreamy.
  9. Not to be too nitpicky. But that B+ isn't something you need to compensate for. Seriously. There aren't many people who make it through law school without at least a B+ on their transcript. In fact, there are incredibly few who have grades even close to you. Let me put it this way, one of my best friends, probably the smartest legal mind I've met (in my age group, anyway), has a B+ on their transcript. Their grades are not unlike yours. They had their pick of 2L summer jobs and when it was time, got interviews/offers at all levels of appellate courts. Worrying about a B+ is a recipe for anxiety and burnout. Continue doing your best, but seriously don't worry yourself sick over the one B+. It's really not a big deal.
  10. Google Canadian Parliamentary Hansards. Older ones will be on the Library of Parliament website. Newer ones will be on ourcommons.
  11. These are the kinds of grades that get interviews. With some solid work experience and research/writing under your belt, I'd bet on you having a good shot.
  12. And perhaps as important for OP, is that whether this is true of you or not, perceptions die hard and may impact you in the short term. I have a bit of a perspective on this given that I transferred after 1L. I had a high B+ bordering on A- when I transfered and my materials were pretty decent. I received one OCI to the Toronto recruit and when I talked it over with a recruiter I know they mentioned that it would have been tough to rank my B+ from school A against a B+ from my new school, based on perceptions based on quality of student pool. It was no surprise then when after one semester of maintaining the average at the new school that I started getting a whole load more interviews. Had I suddenly become a significantly better/more qualified student? Probably not. But the perception of me as a B+ student from new school was better than it had been before because I had proven I stacked up against the "more competitive" pool.
  13. Sometimes schools cohorts/applications show different grades year over year. I've definitely spoken to recruiters I know personally who are like " the grades from x school were generally higher this year" which changes their hard cap that year. Maybe my idea of what a hard cap is is different. What that stems from (self selecting out, etc.) I dont know. Both and more. Sometimes the recruiter is from that school and has preconceived notions. Sometimes the school has a reputation for gregarious students and their firm wants that. Sometimes its that a schools students are seen as studious/bookish. It's why it's hard to pin down.
  14. There are hard thresholds. Those thresholds are fluid year to year. There are also clear school-based biases, those are fluid year to year. There are all sorts of thresholds, biases, etc. both conscious and subconscious on the parts of firms. They aren't worth worrying about, because you can't control them. Do your best, put your best foot forward in your materials and your interviews, and let the chips fall where they may.
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