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  1. You got there pretty early, then. I needed to collect a few STEM degrees and see how many of my peers ended up getting jobs where all they did was mix buffers and run assays that come in a box that are closer to following a basic recipe than developing an mRNA based vaccine. Fortunately, the inherent superiority of their biochem degrees and the fact that they had to learn electrochem material that they probably haven't thought about since halfway through undergrad continue to provide solace.
  2. You seem to be unaware of the fact that many areas of practice intersect with science to a significant degree and require pretty significant facility with that material to perform competently. If you want to litigate a pharmaceutical patent infringement case and you are entirely incapable of understanding the expert reports you'll need you're going to have a bad time.
  3. It's part of a special version of the GRE used for graduate physics and aerospace engineering programs to eliminate candidates doomed to fail before they waste anyone's time.
  4. So you start with a protein BLAST search for all the proteins containing the amino acid sequence 'LAWYER', take your handy dandy genetic code chart (below for ease of reference) to work out all the permutations of the codons capable of producing that sequence, and then run a nucleotide BLAST search and make sure you have all of those genes. Guaranteed to be a great lawyer but probably a shit geneticist (even moreso if you trained as a biochemist but are making grand statements about genetics).
  5. I don't at all think it's a safe assumption that the ~10% of the class heading to NY maps directly onto the top 10% of the class. A pretty significant number of people don't bother applying for NY in any given year, including some on the Dean's list. I think the Dean's list (depends a little bit on credit weighting, too) for 1L typically has a transcript with 8 or 9+ Hs, to give some context to the above. So apparently the mean UofT student heading south is not on the Dean's list although knowing the median or mode would probably be more helpful here.
  6. I'd flag that there does seem to be more of a trend currently of people making the leap from Toronto full service firms to NY now than in the past, too. I've known a few people to do it through either recruiters or people they had worked with who were already employed in NY and got an inside lead on an opening without going through any formal process. I imagine if you try to do this, where you went to school matters a lot less than what firm you articled at. Of course, no guarantee this trend continues for any amount of time, might just be a blip in the radar in the long term.
  7. I'd second this. I found HR pretty helpful but stuck to the Powerscore method moreso for the games. I think my test was one of the first ones that had more miscellaneous games and frankly neither PS or HR had me feeling super prepared for those, I'm not really sure what the best way to prep for those are. Yoni may have also changed the approach some since this trend began, might be worth asking him about if you do take the course.
  8. To offer another perspective, I found I benefited pretty significantly from briefing all my cases. The few courses where I didn't brief all of the cases, I didn't perform as well. I've also found it helpful for case analysis now when I do legal research. Figuring cases out and distilling them down to the important bits for whatever purpose you're reading them for is a skill and the more time you spend doing it the better you get at it. That being said, I know lots of people who like the above poster said they found no benefit from doing this grades-wise. At the end of the day you really need to figure out what works for you. Experiment with different study styles, write lots of practice tests and figure out what study style makes it stick for you. On that note, if there is any opportunity for feedback on practice materials from professors, TAs, upper years, etc. don't pass it up. My law school experience saw very little opportunity for feedback and I wish I would have taken fuller advantage of the limited opportunities that were available (this holds true for clinical, research, and work experiences, too. Seek out feedback from your supervisor, lawyers you do work for, etc.).
  9. It takes some serious mental gymnastics to turn the post you've quoted there into an insult. The title of your topic and first post were also directed specifically at law school applicants who I assume are much less likely to hate lawyers relative to the general public. It's also not an insult to be told you may be missing some information on a given topic and while the term 'ignorant' can be an insult, I don't think the way it was used towards you at the start of this topic was insulting for the most part. Getting your hackles up every time someone suggests you might be ignorant about something is not an attitude that will serve you well anywhere and will certainly result in you missing out on a lot of learning opportunities.
  10. Last time I looked at this (which was not recently so look for yourself) the LSO articling guidelines stipulated that if you took more than the allowed number of vacation or sick days they expected you to extend your articling term by that length to the day. When you complete your paperwork to be called they also ask for how many vacation/sick days you took along with your exact start and end date.
  11. You're at a level of specificity here that I'm not sure anyone on this forum will be able to help you out with. I think your best bet to figure this out is to try and connect with someone in a role that interests you and see what they think. While Oxford offers that degree to non-lawyers, I still think it's possible that some of the work your describing may fall under what some larger organizations would have a staff lawyer to do. You also probably need to think about where you want to be because the kinds of "legal work" available to non-lawyers is going to vary by jurisdiction so you may want to consider this before making a decision to attend a very expensive British graduate program.
  12. Being a law professor is a very specific goal that will for almost all who succeed at it require a large sum of money and top performance during a JD program. The vast majority of law professors have JDs with top marks, went to LLM programs from top tier schools and again had top marks, and then went to prestigious SJD programs. There may be some minority of law professors out there without a JD but they're probably cross-appointed to some other faculty. I don't know what kind of legal research you envision doing for non-profits, etc. but if it's to be relied on for decision making that would fall pretty squarely into the legal advice category and you would need to be a practicing lawyer to do so. If you mean academic research about the law, all kinds of social sciences touch on that. If you want to be a professor studying law in that respect, the cheaper route would probably be to do an MA and PhD and take your stab at the normal tenure track grind. Of course, lots of risk there given the enormous number of PhDs relative to tenure track positions and the often less than stellar options if the professorship doesn't work out.
  13. That's very disconcerting. I've only ever dealt with ZSA and I did not enter into any kind of agreement with them. I just spoke with a recruiter who told me they'd keep me and a copy of my CV on file there was never any term or condition sheet provided to me or anything of that nature. I guess do your homework on what recruitment agency you're dealing with before doing anything.
  14. My experience is limited but I have gotten some interviews through recruiters. I'll usually get them on the phone and so far they've always told me who the firm is and given more details than what's available in the ad in the ORs or whatever. For some of the postings I've applied to they've only requested a CV or a CV and transcripts without a cover letter.
  15. It is extremely common. 1L law jobs are the exception, not the rule.
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