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    International transfer (Canada to US)

    It's very hard (if not impossible) to transfer from a non-American Bar Association-approved school (i.e. every school in Canada) to an ABA-approved school in the US. You'd have to look at the transfer requirements of the school to which your friend would like to transfer. But, long story short, I'm afraid you won't have much luck.
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    Clerkships 2019

    ONCA has started to go out.
  3. One nice thing about the U of T (+possible MBA) route is that you can decide to do the MBA after you see your 1L results. At that point, you’ll be better-places to decide if the MBA is worth the additional investment. (Did you crush 1L? Do you still want to pursue consulting, or do you now really want to be a litigator? etc.)
  4. How much will getting rid of a D- affect your GPA? I can't be bothered to do the math for you, but I think getting an A+ instead of a D- would result in a significant change to your GPA (more than .1?). There are weird things out there that do care about undergraduate marks, even if they are not significant for the 2L recruit. For example, I believe undergraduate marks play a greater role in the 1L recruit. They may also be relevant for (and it sounds like this is of no interest, but for the record) graduate school. Anyway. I agree that, in substance, distinction/high distinction doesn't matter very much. The principle benefit is appearing fancy and smart, as pointed out above. But your undergraduate degree will stick with you for the rest of your life. If I were in your position, I'd probably redo the course -- but only because I'm a low-key narcissist.
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    Comparing Student Experience

    I think it's silly to suppose that (1) there is any meaningful difference in 'chill-ness' between these school and (2) that anyone here can give you much insight, even if there is a difference. We all only went to law school once. I will say that even if you attend a school that attracts A-type personalities, that might not mean a student body is less chill. There's definitely a phenomena whereby people chill out after they get jobs -- so in some sense, attending a school with better employment outcomes might be more relaxed than an ostensibly less 'A-type' school. (This is obviously totally speculative.) Anyway, find a better reason to choose. I think there are significant differences in costs between all of these schools, leaving aside location. Why not just go to the cheapest, if you're truly indifferent on every other ground?
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    Political View Biases at Universities

    There are, of course, lots of left-leaning students -- but nothing I'd characterize as being out of the mainstream. There are also some obviously-conservative folks, although fewer. I think people are generally quite respectful of others' views; I can think of only one real blow-up over the last few years involving a small-c conservative student -- but his or her conduct was quite egregious. As for faculty, I can't say I have ever experienced any overt or uncomfortable partisan leanings. I'd say there's a default to liberal centrism -- which is, I suppose, where my own politics rest. (I can't imagine many professors voted for the federal or provincial Conservatives.) On the whole, I struggle to make any concrete statements about a 'political climate' at U of T. It feels totally irrelevant to my experiences at law school -- but perhaps that's because I am not particularly politically-engaged.
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    UofT 1L grades out - how bleak does it look?

    The OP is a student at U of T. Those with reason to know have provided responses that are accurate: the OP is still in the running for 2L OCIs, provided they have a stronger second semester. What is the point of trying to convert grades, here? Perhaps folks from Osgoode or Queen's or wherever are curious what their grades mean for 2L OCIs. I really can't comment, because I don't have a clue what grades one needs to get OCIs at those schools. Even assuming we can map U of T grades onto grades at another school, at that point any comparison would be premised on the assumption that it doesn't matter what school your grades are from. I know some people have a deeply-held belief that this is the case, but in any case it's irrelevant to the OP and students from other law schools with the same question. I feel like this topic has been addressed ad nauseam in other threads. I don't see why every thread dealing with U of T has to deteriorate into some thinly-veiled comparison between law schools and the merits of their respective grading systems.
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    UofT 1L grades out - how bleak does it look?

    People definitely get (great) jobs in the 2L OCIs with an LP on their transcript. To state the obvious, you’ll want to have a stronger second semester, especially if you’re not feeling hot about your small group. I’d seek out tutoring through the ASP and get feedback on those exams ASAP. But don’t despair — lots of the year to go.
  9. There's plenty of time in 1L to do all the things you listed. And, a contrario, often of the best-performing law students are the most involved. (I am not making any claim as to causation, here.) I personally think you get more out of law school by being an active member of the community. There are a lot of really fantastic opportunities and I think it would be a shame to deprive yourself of those because of an obsession with grades. As for things I would recommend: Do what interests you. You are correct in that DLS is probably the most demanding extracurricular, but it's a unique opportunity to do real advocacy (on immigration, housing, etc.). PBSC is an assortment of very different extracurricular opportunities, some akin to clinics others more like RA positions. Clubs are generally little work and are, more than anything, a chance to meet other students who share your interests. But don't worry about it yet. Actually, don't worry about it at all. Opportunities to get engaged in 1L are not in short supply.
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    Lawyers and The Stock Market

    Has anyone had any experience with the roboadvisors (Wealthsimple, etc.)? I am a long way from being able to save any substantial amount, as it stands, but I was planning on directing some proportion of my paycheque into a service like that (perhaps up to the TFSA contribution limit)? More generally, is it advisable to seek out financial advice early in your career? I have a lot of questions about paying off debt vs. investing, tax issues, etc. etc. These issues come up early, and I am not sure who, if anyone, can provide such advice. And, more importantly, whether or at what point it is worth the cost. I have no interest in being an active investor, and I don't get any joy out of managing money. (Although I can definitely understand the value of autonomy, and that for some people figuring all of this out might be rewarding and fun.)
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    U of T grading

    If Luckycharm's mapping of letter grades onto the current system was accurate, a straight 'B' student would (as a matter of fact) be in or near the top 10% of the class and grades would be curved to a C+ average. Which is absurd. A P is not equivalent to a C/C+ and no one has ever treated it like that. For the record, I am equally skeptical of the Admin's equation of an H to an A- (maybe for the ego-stroking reasons discussed earlier). The whole emptiness of mapping the current system of grades onto letter grades becomes apparent when you consider other school's curves. There are some that curve to a B+ average, with basically 70% of the students getting that grade. (I'm thinking here of Queen's, if anyone wants to find the stats for that.) That is fundamentally incompatible with U of T's grading system. If you want to impute letter grade equivalents onto the HH/H/P/LP system, you need to know what the distribution of U of T's curve would be under a letter grade system. Without that information, the whole project is circular. As it stands, a P is exactly what it says it is: a mark somewhere between the 1st and 55th percentile of the class. Now whether this is good or bad is up for debate (as was done above, and which I don't think I want to reopen).
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    U of T grading

    I think we agree that the only good reasons for hiring someone are meritocratic reasons! That's pretty substantial common ground, given the realities of business decisions. But we depart on whether grades are the only measure of merit, and with your suggestion that there can be no good non-grade related reasons to hire people. I think there are such reasons--some of them very good. (I also worry that grades may be uncomfortably well-correlated with some of the very factors you think are pernicious, but that's a question of fact I can't prove.) But I think your points are well taken. Again, I honestly do believe that people hire for bad reasons all the time, even though I think they neither need to or should. I am not convinced people hire from U of T with more reliance on bad reasons, as a result of the grading system, but I see the argument and I'm prepared to believe it. I don't think I believe it's U of T's job to prevent people from inappropriately discriminating. Before I close the books on this, I do think students manage to distinguish themselves -- and not just those at the top of the curve. Going into the 2L recruit, you have seven grades. Building a pretty detailed ranking of class from that information isn't rocket science. The ambiguities of the P probably only pay off in tail, among students students with a bunch of Ps and one or two Hs. They also erase the 'disastrous one-off grade' phenomenon. ...I don't literally want 10 bands above a P. My point is that focus on the top of the curve is placing the emphasis on the wrong thing. Phew. Okay. Good night.
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    U of T grading

    That argument is premised on their being no valid non-grade related reasons to pick one person over another. Let's call such valid reasons ... 'fit.' Firms hire on 'fit' all the time and are perfectly open about it. Now maybe there are no valid non-grade reasons for hiring, and 'fit' is a cipher for (what I guess we'll call) improper discrimination. Fine. But I doubt it. If this were the case we could just do away with interviews. I agree that reducing the information available about students forces people to hire based on factors other than grades. But this can cut many ways. And if causes firms to rely on improper reasons in their hiring, that's not a problem with the grading scheme. To your second point, about distinguishing yourself: People continue to distinguish themselves! And I am very grateful for the two bands above a P. If we had 10 bands above a P, all the better. Again, the payoff of the system is for students in the latter half of the curve. Who are, I might add, not necessarily well-connected scions of Bay Street partners, etc.
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    U of T grading

    I can see this being true, honestly. But if law firms want to be nepotistic, classist, and racist that's on them.
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