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Everything posted by Shankar

  1. You're probably right about it being indicative of nothing. But of course one of my four changed back to reviewed today just to mess with me a little more. I don't usually care about stupid stuff that is totally out of my control like this, so I really don't know why I'm obsessing over whether the box says reviewed or not reviewed. Oh well, it'll be over soon enough and I can move on to applying for other jobs after I get offered zero interviews.
  2. Probably a stupid question, but has this happened in past years? I had four applications turn back to not reviewed. Three were boutiques and the fourth was a mid sized firm that describes itself as full service if that means anything. I have a feeling that it’s nothing at all, but part of me wants to think that what @Rynsaid about them flagging the application is true. Then there’s the pessimistic side of me that thinks that it means they’ve reviewed it and basically thrown my application in the garbage, which I could definitely see being the case for at least one of those four lol
  3. Just out of curiosity, did they specificallly say LSAT writing sample, or could it be possible that they meant the thing you submit on OLSAS as part of your application that is sort of like the LSAT writing sample? It makes a lot more sense if it’s that instead of the actual LSAT writing sample.
  4. We’re on the same page. I probably could’ve just wrote the second half of what I posted because the part you quoted can be understood to say something I didn’t intend. What I meant by it is that I, as a law student, am not doing anything difficult or spectacular. An undergrad should expect even less, so their time would likely be better spent doing something else.
  5. For what it's worth, I've found intakes, closing letters, and most other legal things I've done this summer to be easier to learn how to do than the administrative work I had to do for a week. I'm pretty confident I could've done all of this stuff, probably with the exception of interviews, as an undergrad. Either way, the other posters are right in that you probably won't be able to volunteer at a clinic right now. They're turning away law students and paralegals trying to volunteer, so I highly doubt they'd take an undergrad to do anything more than shred documents.
  6. Compared to the rest of the past year that I've had a Western email account, the last few weeks have been very spammy. From September to June/July I got like 5-10 of them total. Don't expect them to continue to be this annoying.
  7. My academic reference was a prof I took only a summer course with. I never spoke to him outside of class and I never participated in class beyond the few very minimal things that were required. Like the other posters have said, just ask a prof. Eventually one of them will say yes, and the generic letter you get from them will be fine.
  8. That's probably what you're looking for, but it's really old now. Edit: The list is actually in the second reply in that thread. I thought I linked to the comment, but I don't think it worked.
  9. My uninformed guess is Friday. Tomorrow is the grades meeting and I’ll get my Bs. Then you guys will get your acceptances the next day. It’s just a guess though, I could be wrong.
  10. Long term is a lot harder to predict because there are so many more factors to consider. I don't think I know enough to offer you sound advice on that, but for a lot of lawyers it takes a lot less than 15 years to make $150-200k, if that's what you were asking. But the caveat there is that that range is also often near the cap, so you'd presumably get there faster but wouldn't exceed it by much if at all.
  11. Bay St. salaries start in the low six figures for a first year associate. About a third of the class at each of Western, Queen's, and Osgoode get those jobs. There are also many other position that start in the $80-90k range that would be over 6 figures within a year or two. There are definitely positions out there where it'll take several years to make anywhere close to six figures, but saying that's the norm isn't correct IMO. With all of that said, it still probably isn't financially worth it for you. You know what your salary progression looks like in your current position and can figure out the opportunity cost, so there's no point in me trying to do that. The main point is that there's a realistic shot at making six figures straight of law school, or very soon after, rather than it taking several years for all lawyers to get to that amount.
  12. I wonder if Windsor will be top 5 again so that their profs can mention it on Twitter and legitimate Windsor news outlets will mention University Magazine as some kind of legitimate authority. That was fun.
  13. I don't know for sure, but I thin Western does have fewer clinic spots than other schools. I think there is in the neighbourhood of 40 1L clinic positions. Twelve of those are at the Business Law Clinic and a few others are the Sports Clinic. The rest would be in areas related to what you're interested in. In terms of odds of getting a spot, almost everyone applies to almost everything because almost everyone is a super eager student in the first month of 1L. I believe resumes are reviewed anonymously, but asking the 2Ls involved in the clinics about what they're looking for would be helpful before you apply. You don't need to do any sort of networking to get those positions, but see what what I said above about the clinics. As for your other questions, very few 1Ls get summer law jobs. As I'm sure you can see from that, having a 1L summer position is far from required to get a 2L position. The OCI process is based very much on grades. In terms of help from the school, the careers office is pretty good. I've never been, but I haven't heard a bad thing about them. Torys hosts the reception and sponsors a moot. Read less than nothing into that, it's meaningless.
  14. Lol how did a question about reading week turn into this nonsense? Anyway, there isn't fall reading week, but here is what goes on during the first three days of the first or second week of November: 1Ls: Alternative dispute resolution three day intensive (AKA waste of time). 2Ls: In-firm interviews to finish up the OCI process. 3Ls: Nothing The 2Ls and 3Ls usually take the rest of the week off too, but the 1Ls don't.
  15. That’s what you’re looking for. Join the class of 2022 group.
  16. They said the last one they accept is January. I think that’s pretty clear. Dont do it, you’re just going to waste everyone’s time.
  17. It’s a waste of time online class that serves no purpose. All of its assignments are graded on a pass/fail basis, but if you fail one you just do it again. Apparently they’re getting rid of it, so future students won’t have to worry about it.
  18. This gets asked every year and the answer is that it’s equally as competitive as recent years. There’s a reason that incoming class GPA and LSAT averages stay roughly the same year to year, and that reason is not that the schools have deemed those numbers to be the best and they’re going to get them every year regardless of how many 4.0 GPAs and 180 LSATs they have to reject.
  19. I had two bad years and got into a bunch of schools. You have two bad grades. You’re fine.
  20. Sorry, to work on Bay St you’ll have to go to a much more reputable and highly regarded school, like Leicester.
  21. 1) Mostly based on the final. The midterm will generally be around 30% and the final around 70% of your final grade. Some classes, particularly your small group class, will have a ~10% participation grade, but participation grades aren't significant. 2) Basically impossible. There are undergrad gold medallists who don't have straight As. I'm sure there are a couple people who have straight As, but no more than a couple. It's also worth noting that you don't really need straight As for anything. 3) I don't know how hard it is to get onto the journal, but I know there are quite a few spots. The research background probably helps, but it won't get you a spot by itself. They basically test everyone interested in the journal at the beginning of the year (they give you part of an article and you're asked to identify the errors) and then I believe the ones who did well are either interviewed or offered spots. I don't remember if there was an interview process or not. 4) Yeah, lots. 4(2)) Kinda, but I wouldn't recommend them because that's where all the undergrads live. Everyone I know either takes the bus or drives.
  22. Apparently, one was just made. When I say just made, I mean under a week ago. There's a list of upper year tutors for certain 1L classes that you can contact and they'll run tutoring sessions for you. It's $20/hour and sessions can have up to four students in them (so $5/hour minimum). The list of classes covered isn't very broad and definitely isn't comprehensive (lots of people can tutor Ethics apparently), but that might change as it becomes more established.
  23. If you're still in school, the only thing you need to send is your final grades for this semester. Otherwise, I wouldn't waste the time sending anything like the things you mentioned, because they probably won't even be read or added to your file. I'm fairly sure of that, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong. As for the tour, individual tours are given all the time. Getting invited by the Dean is possibly unique, but that likely depends on the school. Either way, there's basically no chance the tour will be given by the Dean, if that was what you were hoping for. If you're already admitted to the school, it's basically just an attempt by them to get you to go there. As for what you should expect, expect to go to the general admin desk and be greeted by a current student. The student will then take you around the school, talk about points of interest, possibly introduce you to some professors or people involved in the school's clinics if they're available, and answer questions you have. It's nothing special.
  24. I'm not totally sure what you're asking, but they won't go through your transcript to look at every individual grade and consider the grade and what kind of course it was in. They don't have time to do that for every applicant, and, even if they did, I'm pretty sure they'd be able to find a better use for that time. You'll probably want to recalculate your GPA though. It's very unlikely that an 81% average will translate to a 3.7-3.8, especially with at least two grades in the 60s in there.
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