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  1. No worries. That's pretty funny - that must have been at least a little tongue-in-cheek. I didn't go to Welcome Day before law school so I really can't speak to what UBC would say. But I feel like everyone I go to school with is quite engaged and does enjoy studying law in and of itself. I haven't really heard of people saying they don't find the program challenging enough. There's a pretty big focus on OCIs but the school is trying to develop and advertise more social justice opportunities. We have a decent focus on practical experience - you are now required to do a moot or clinic to graduate. I personally think this is a good idea. In upper years, you can do directed research projects and seminars which you will find have more of a theoretical focus. I've really enjoyed my time at UBC and the people I have gone to school with. Feel free to PM me if you have more specific questions about the school.
  2. I'm a 3L, so I am not the most up-to-date on current admissions trends, but from looking at the schools' websites, the median GPA for admission to UBC is 83% (3.8 on the 4.0 scale, according to UBC) and an LSAT score of 166. U of T's median GPA for last year was 3.83. The median LSAT score was 166. Both schools are taking into account personal statements etc. to some extent now. UBC drops your lowest 12 credits, but U of T only looks at your best 3 years. Depending what your transcript looks like, either of these evaluation systems could be more beneficial to you. Quite a lot of people have a bad first year and improve substantially, or a rough year due to adverse personal circumstances, and might have an easier time getting into U of T as a result of the school only looking at your best 3 years. I'm a UBC student, full disclosure, but looking at the actual numbers provided by the schools themselves, I am not sure why you are worried about UBC being less "academically rigorous". However, I agree with the common advice on this forum of going to school in the city (or at least province) you want to practice in.
  3. UBC is quite competitive - the median LSAT is 165 and GPA is 83% after drops. Your GPA won't change that much if you lose only your 12 worst credits after a four year degree. Plus the conversion tends to bring people's GPA down if they don't have percentage grades. Not to say it's impossible, but OP would really really need to improve their LSAT to be competitive for UBC with their GPA.
  4. I don’t think firms care that much about undergrad grades. If they’re concerned, they’re likely to bring it up during the interview. That’s what happened with my friends in a similar position. Then you can summarize your extenuating circumstances.
  5. I'm a 3L and it was a really weird note to end law school on. We were joking in one of our hated mandatory classed about it being our last class in law school last week, but I don't think any of us actually thought it was going to be moved online.
  6. That's what I was thinking as well. And the advice you would give in each role would likely be contradictory in many situations.
  7. I also don't know anyone who has been through the program but I would contact U of T or whichever school you are looking at and ask if they have any alumni you can speak to. Most schools keep a list of alumni who are willing to talk to prospective students. Trying to advocate for your client and counseling them yourself at the same time seems pretty dangerous though - I personally do not think one person should be doing both those things for a client.
  8. I definitely don't think you need to be there. There's a bunch of people who won't even have received their acceptances yet so it obviously won't include essential information. I think it's mostly for people who are on the fence. I live in Vancouver and I skipped my year's Allard Day. Plus all the law classes are in one building so you don't really need a tour, in my opinion (unless you want one).
  9. How does a modified lockstep work? I did not realize that was a thing haha.
  10. I'm not sure how useful the Toronto info is as a success rate. I am in 3L and I know several people off the top of my head in my year who applied for Toronto but withdraw their applications because they got a job in a different market, since those offers come out first. So I don't think it's accurate to say there's an 8% success rate; you would need to know how many people of those people applied but withdrew their applications to get a proper number.
  11. That’s ridiculous. I’m at UBC and they would definitely never do that. Very few of the Vancouver big firms hire after the 2L recruit, so that would really screw you over. I know a lot of our profs usually write backup exams for people who need to defer finals due to emergencies - I don’t really know what else your school could do. Other than moving the exam, which seems easiest.
  12. Seems to really depend on the practice areas! In general, a lot of the securities or M & A lawyers seem to do 8am to 6pm-ish. Unless they have a deal closing, then they work more. Corporate or commercial litigators seem to vary between 70 hours a week (or more) when they’re in a complicated trial or 30-40 when a trial has just ended. But most them seem to take a healthy amount of vacation. Everyone else seems to average like 50 hours a week, but it depends on the practice area.
  13. We don’t have midterms during the OCI recruits... I think that would be pretty insane for a school to do because you literally can’t move those interviews. Is that what’s happening at your school or is it non-formal recruitment activities? If it’s not OCIs, could you move the interview to the next day?
  14. I think it really depends on your firm for summer student hours. Some friends worked roughly 9 to 5 at firms who want summer students to have a chill summer since you’ll have long hours for the rest of your life. For firms that want to treat you like articling students, it was more like 8am to 8pm on average. They went into the office several times on the weekend throughout the summer and had a few nights where they were working until 1am or so. Of my friends who were in the second situation, they were at boutiques or large firms who didn’t have enough articling students and they were warned ahead of time what the summer would be like.
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