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  1. Girby

    UBC vs. UofT

    Both schools are great. For the sake of discussion, I will call that a wash. Same goes for housing/living costs. That more-or-less leaves us with these considerations: your relationships and networks in Toronto, the city you prefer to live in, your openness to staying in BC, the cost of tuition, and career opportunities. Relationships and networks in Toronto: Moving cities, making new friends, and starting a new program can be jarring for anyone. I did fine with this and I am sure many others on LS were okay with it, too. I am sure you are capable. Nonetheless, ask whether the relationships you have in Toronto would provide you with comfort and stability that you may benefit from during law school. Preferred city: Toronto and Vancouver are two very different cities. I love both but see it as an apples-and-oranges comparison. I have friends that have shuffled to Toronto with no intention of returning to Vancouver and vice-versa. Explore why you believe Vancouver would be an exciting change. Openness to staying in BC: This is important. You've said you are willing to stay in BC for 5-10 years; what's preventing you from committing long-term? In ten years you may have familial and career considerations that would make a move back to Toronto a difficult one. Are you okay with this? Career opportunities: You think you want to do "social justice" law but the areas you listed after that are not necessarily social justice-oriented. You should do more research and keep an open mind. In any event. neither school will close doors but Ontario does have a larger legal market. That includes "social justice" employment opportunities. Tuition: A serious consideration. A full JD at UBC costs about a year at UofT. UofT provides bursaries averaging ~9-10K but they won't erase the difference with UBC.
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    UofT / UBC / UVic

    I'm not sure about "internships" but work experience will make you an attractive candidate in any employment recruit. Grades are important, of course - you don't get a second look if you're below average unless you make that up elsewhere (which is hard to do).
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    1L Toronto 2019 Summer Recruitment (PFOs and ITCs)

    Silence is fine. If you intend to decline, let them know.
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    UofT / UBC / UVic

    Sorry, I worded that weirdly. If you were open to staying in BC, the only school in Canada that I would turn UBC down for is the University of Toronto - and that is a very hard decision when you consider tuition. I would go to UBC, Osgoode, and UofT over UVic. UVic's program is on par or better than the rest of Ontario (My $0.02). That said: you said that you do not intend to stay in BC. That changes a lot. Queen's, Western, Ottawa, Osgoode, and UofT eat up virtually all of Toronto's Bay Street jobs. UBC placed two students in Toronto this year. This also assumes you do well enough in 1L on the UBC/UVic curve to be competitive for Bay (2/4 of the highest admission stats schools in Canada, I believe). To the point I made above about UBC/UVic vs. Ontario schools, you would also need to be well above average to transfer to Osgoode or UofT. You seem to have better work experience than most direct-to-law-school applicants. If you were a decent student at most Ontario schools I would be surprised if you did not receive Bay Street interviews. I'd apply broadly in Ontario next cycle.
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    UofT / UBC / UVic

    2. If you're planning on Bay Street, go to school in Ontario. Taking yourself as far as you physically can get from your desired market when you know you have no desire to stay in BC is ridiculous. Spend your 1L summer in BC or something instead. 3. UVic and UBC are two of the best law schools in the country. I would only take UofT over UBC. If you get into either of them and accept your offer, you absolutely should finish your degree there.
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    UofT for Family law?

    UofT has family law courses, runs a Pro Bono Students Canada Family Law Project, and provides family law services through Downtown Legal Services (DLS). I can't speak to the strength of the family law division but DLS is a very well-established clinic. You would not have a substandard experience. JaysFan is right, you should think about factors like tuition when making this decision. Most UofT students qualify for 8-10K in bursaries. You also may not want to practice family law.
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    Ryerson 2020

  8. If that is your OLSAS cGPA, you have not heard back because you are not a competitive applicant with your stats. Wait it out. You never know at a holistic process school. Otherwise, rewrite the LSAT and aim for 160.
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    UCalgary vs. Osgoode

    Calgary is a slam dunk with the information that you have provided. Good luck with law school.
  10. Girby

    Getting Worried

    It's January 21. Offers are made into late August. Relax. The worst case scenario is that you don't get in this cycle. You're still in school so if your grades this term are above your current cGPA you will be even more competitive next cycle. FWIW: if I were you, I would reapply broadly in Canada before taking a US school offer. Your stats will eventually get you into a handful of Canadian schools. Cheaper and will save you NCA headaches.
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    Should I Apply for the 1L Recruit?

    If you don't apply, you have no chance. If you apply, you might have a chance. If you are interested in the jobs available in the 1L recruit, apply. If you are not, don't. I had straight As at the time of the 1L recruit and did not receive a single interview offer in Toronto or Calgary. I maintained that average and had many OCIs, in-firms, and a few job offers during the 2L recruit. One offer was from a firm I applied to in 1L. @FineCanadianFXs gave some great reasons to apply. My thoughts are more simple: apply if you want to and see what happens.
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    10% tuition cut at Ontario law schools?

    I'm fairly certain that nothing but press statements have come out. Nothing substantive for colleges and universities to work with.
  13. There's a bit of Goldilocks-sampling-porridge going on whenever law students talk about school culture. You wouldn't dare attend certain schools because they're newer, the student body is weaker, the job prospects are poor, blah blah blah. And hey, you also didn't want to go to that law school - the one you didn't get into - ever since you heard a story about a student way-back-when that set a library copy of a treatise on fire during exam season. You swear the story is true! Everyone at that school must be the devil incarnate. No thanks. Thankfully, whatever law school I attended is just right. Anyway. @psychloon: I volunteered with UBC's legal clinics last summer. I do not attend Allard. I could not say enough nice things about the dozens of students I worked with from the school. I have not heard anything negative about the school from other friends that went there. I also considered attending UVic. I spoke with many students and faculty there. Nothing negative to report. Both great schools, so go wherever you want. Don't shy away from Allard over its culture, though.
  14. It's accurate, yes. All the info you need is here.
  15. To be clear, I did my undergraduate degree at UBC. I did not go to Allard. All of Marine Drive has been on year-round contracts since Ponderosa finished construction a few years ago. You can sublet your apartment for the summer to another student if you do not intend to be in Vancouver for the summer. If you want housing from UBC for the school year only, apply for a room in the Gage Apartment building or Cedar House in Ponderosa. Both are quite nice and I think it's worth the premium to live comfortably and close to law school, especially during 1L. There are a lot of private residences in the area as well where you could find a similar arrangement. Wesbrook Village has a lot of 2/3BR apartments and there are listings in UBC Housing Facebook groups all the time. I have lived with law students during 1L and 2L and I have enjoyed that arrangement. I met my roommates through our Facebook class group.
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