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  1. grishamlaw

    Hireback Summary

    Hello all, I was wondering if any lovely soul wouldn't mind posting a 'greatest hits' of advice for getting hired back as an associate in a litigation setting (not criminal). I know many are annoyed when someone doesn't go digging for old threads before asking this kind of thing, but I was wondering if anyone could create a brief 'restatement of the law' in this area. If not, I'll just go through the articling students mega thread, but I thought it was worth asking. Thank you, ls.ca world!
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    What type of Law is each school known for?

    Lol my theory is that law schools teach you how to be clerks and profs. That's what they did so obviously that's what you do, right? On the other hand though, any practitioner I have had for a prof has been a complete disaster. They don't tend to know the entire area of law well enough to teach it with coherence. I appreciate the practical tips and expertise in a few areas, but it becomes a nightmare during exams.
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    So Um...What Now?

    Also, in case I haven't ranted enough, here is a story I go back to when I think shit isn't going to work out: Despite his superior academic record, Laskin, who was Jewish, was unable to find work at any law firm of note, because of the anti-Semitism that pervaded the English-Canadian legal profession at the time.[7] As a result, his first job after graduating was writing headnotes (i.e., article synopses) for the Canadian Abridgement,[1] a legal research tool. In order to be called to the bar, it was required that he serve articles with a lawyer who was already a member of the bar. He had trouble finding a lawyer who would serve as his principal, because non-Jewish lawyers would not accept Jewish students. Through connections, he eventually found a young Jewish lawyer, Sam Gotfrid, who was willing to sign as his principal, but Gotfrid was himself only just starting out and could not provide Laskin with any work or salary. A year into his articles, Laskin found a non-Jewish lawyer, W.C. Davidson, who was willing to take him as an articling student, and he finished his articles with Davidson. In later years, Laskin would say that he articled with Davidson, not mentioning his initial start with Gotfrid.[8] That's Bora Laskin's story. If he could bounce back, then so can you.
  4. grishamlaw

    So Um...What Now?

    Tough situation, mate. You've got my sympathy. 1. Luck determines so much so don't think this reflects too much on you. You've obviously taken the right steps to be prepared for an opportunity. Just think of the random chain of events that has led you to this situation. It wasn't like everyone woke up in September of 1L with a master plan that they flawlessly executed. If you change your mindset on this, then you'll stop blaming yourself as much. 2. Stay ready. The events that are going to lead TO your articling position are swirling around in the universe. You just gotta be ready when that opportunity comes. So keep yourself in the batter's box so to speak. This doesn't just mean keep throwing applications against the wall. It means you gotta keep yourself as a functioning human being throughout all of this. Keep healthy, exercise, keep doing the stuff that makes you happy in your daily life as long as it's not slaughtering the innocents (dark). 3. Remember why you want to be a lawyer. You want to be a corp/comm litigator? Sweet. If you're set on that, then think of what that's going to be like. Think of the complex cases and the respect afforded to you when the client is trusting your advice when the millions or billions are on the line. This will keep you going because it reminds you that all the shit is worth it. 4. This can be an opportunity. I know it's tough to see right now, but an articling job that beats your expectations could be out there. You just never know. This happens, by the way, all the time: guy strikes out at normal recruiting only to find himself/herself in a perfect situation somewhere else. Struck out at Bay Street? That could mean you're going to a shop that is specialized in bus. litigation that doesn't work the crazy hours.
  5. grishamlaw

    What type of Law is each school known for?

    I can't stress that enough. You can't just weigh the benefits of a school. You gotta weigh the costs too. This is especially the case because it's 3 years long. If you're going to come out with the mental health problems that are all too common, then the school specialities don't matter.
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    Exchange versus taking more "relevant" courses

    Lol I was just getting over that
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    Exchange versus taking more "relevant" courses

    I strongly advise staying in Canada! It's true you won't know much of what you need to know at your firm, but it's well known by now that having exposure to a subject makes it easier to learn in more detail. It's like pre-reading on a bigger scale. Bottom line is that imho, being a lawyer means being the best for your client. I think that starts in school by improving your skills and knowledge as best as you can. I have no idea how taking EU corporate law in Ireland would help in the first 10 years of your career.
  8. Disclaimer: I know you guys hate talking about this and so do I, but as a law student and hopeful lawyer, I am always on the lookout for something to ruin my day. With that said, are there any good reports out there outlining how fast some of this stuff is being implemented? I know Denton's uses Ross, but I have no idea how this is affecting associate hiring or whether it even works well. All of the reports seem to hype it up, but no one really says how it's working. It has been a few years since this stuff came out, and I want to know whether I need to worry over the next 5 years. I'm starving for information on this given what seems like a perfect s*** storm: ry-high's new law school, Britain and Australia's increasing imports, alternative services (e.g., Big 4 in some employment and tax stuff), and now AI. Not looking for lengthy theories on one side of the argument or the other, but if you have used any of the AI out there and have an opinion, then I would be forever grateful for shining a light on this. I also realize that a lot of this will probably never be implemented in some areas. I don't think a crim firm with 2-3 lawyers or a small general practice in Timmons are going anywhere anytime soon
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    Great Books To Read Before/During Law School

    War and peace. It's epic as hell and not related to law.
  10. grishamlaw

    0Ls: do this.

    this post didn't go over terribly well haha. I don't feel like defending this anymore, but I'll just say that if you wanna do well and want to do something about it, try the stuff above.
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    0Ls: do this.

    I don't disagree that luck is a big factor in the equation, but what you're saying seems to be that doing well is more or less out of your control. To an extent I agree, but I would also say that this implies that a lot of people in Canada should not be going to law school. If the expected value of a law school investment is so uncertain (yes, outcomes do depend on grades at least initially), then the debt is too heavy and the legal market is too weak to justify playing a game of chance.
  12. grishamlaw

    0Ls: do this.

    I'm not saying you need to be able to write a SCC factum by September. The list is meant to kickstart what you need to do. Also, why would I wait to do poorly on assignments until learning this stuff? Useless is a strong word I would say. Like I said to Jaggers above, you need to know this stuff. It is impossible to do well without knowing what your professors want and how to put that into action. So, what you're saying is you should try to do one of the these things: 1. Learn as you go. That would be lovely if all of Canada's law school used the pass fail system. If you think about it, a big part in doing in law school is knowing what your professors want better than your peers do. Now, I know what you'll say in response: ask your professors what they want. That's usually a road to nowhere in my experience. Talking to your professors tends to provide you with bits and pieces of information. You would get the same thing summarized in GTM. Why not just economize on your time? 2. Get lucky. Not everyone has access to someone who went to law school. Even if you did, they wouldn't have the same caliber of advice as a law professor who wrote one of these books (so if you do know a law professor, that may be better than one of those books!)
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    0Ls: do this.

    They don't have "anything" to do with your marks? How do you think grades work then? The things I described help you know what points to hit and how to hit them. Getting to maybe and Open Book show you what professors want. Knowing how to read, write and manage your time shows you how to translate that into an action plan. Even if you don't read the books, you need to know that stuff eventually.
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    0Ls: do this.

    It has long been accepted wisdom on this website that you should relax before 0L. In terms of not working 80 hours a week in august, that is true. But this does not mean you should learn law school on the fly. That will give you Bs. If you want As, here's what to do instead: Read "Open Book" - this is a simpler introduction to how law school works than Getting to Maybe. This will help you conceptualize what your profs are looking for. Read Getting to Maybe. This is a classic for a reason. It is a detailed guide for beating the competition on law school exams. Learn how to learn. There are tons of studies on what works and what doesn't. For example, test yourself wherever possible. This means testing yourself on a reading or doing a practice exam. Learn about productivity. Some of it works. Some of it doesn't. Try three things that are easy to implement. Learn how to read. Seriously. Learn how to read for speed and how to learn for comprehension. Just read the wikihow page. If you were good on the RC in the lsat, don't forget your strategies. Learn how to write like a law student/lawyer. I suggest writing for lawyers or something like that. Introducing yourself to legal reasoning is a bonus. I recommend reading Logic for Lawyers. This helps de-mystify legal reasoning. This is really valuable for every part of law school. Make guides for yourself that implement what you learn above. Make checklists even. This is important because knowing how something works is worthless without an action plan. 1L is a high stakes game for a lot of people. This is especially the case for people taking on debt so don't leave this to chance. Also, you won't have time to improve these skills in October. I hope someone finds this helpful and other people contribute.
  15. grishamlaw

    Ask a 1L!

    Lol yeah i grew some grey hairs when i read that email