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  1. With respect to your first question, I've had 2L summer interviews where references were requested after the interview. I should note they were in house positions (I don't think it's happened following an interview at a law firm).
  2. Out of curiosity, how long do the interviews usually last for everyone? Just wondering if my 25min interviews are considered short and whether this signals a lack of interest on their end (although I was invited back for one of them today). I sometimes try to drag it on with questions but I guess they go through a lot of interviews and want to move on quickly...
  3. Samis + Company sent out emails for cocktail reception taking place Monday evening.
  4. Similar situation. However, my grades appear worse than yours (picked up FIVE C's/C+ and I'm only finishing second year, although I have a number of A's and B's/B+ to balance it out). I managed to land interviews and find a summer job. I have the same issues with exams and my strength is also in my writing abilities. I try to make that clear in my applications (the strength) and if I get interviews, I emphasize that I tend to do well in paper evaluated courses, which is reflected in my grades. Of course, I avoid saying anything that might sound like an excuse for my poor grades. I have a broad interest also but felt like I should demonstrate that I know what I want, so in my cover letters I express that I have particular interest in learning more about so-and-so area of law. I do this so I can talk about my experiences (work/volunteer/favourite classes), how I developed such interests, why I want to work for that firm, and how the skills I gained can apply to the position I'm applying for. I think having a broad interest is okay too, but just make sure you explain what it is you want to get out of working for that particular company (e.g is it research and writing skills, oral advocacy, drafting legal documents?) and also what you can contribute (e.g. your diverse range of experiences). Spend a lot of time perfecting your cover letter and resume. Have others look it over. Tweak it for every job you apply for. Apply broadly. And I think it's important to have a back-up plan. Are you willing to apply and potentially work for companies you might not be as interested in to get more experience? Be prepared to volunteer for more experience and to show your interest/desire in the area you want to work in (it could be at a full service firm). Both of those last two points I had considered and was ready to commit to until I found my job last minute. Just keep trying. If you're in first year, I highly recommend volunteering/interning during the summer if you don't find a job (most students don't). After the shitshow in 1L I just wanted to relax, but law school moves fast and I found myself wishing I had taken the opportunity to volunteer in my 1L summer so that I could have a stronger resume towards my search for a 2L job. Anyway, I am lucky that I worked a lot in the past and volunteered plenty during 1L so I had stuff I could talk about. It seems like you have a variety of good experience as well, and, as others have pointed out, your grades are not terrible, so don't be too discouraged. Just be prepared to work harder compared to other applicants to find something you like. It's tough, but try not to convince yourself that you're not qualified based on your grades. The only way to get what you want is to try, so put in your best effort and you have a chance of succeeding.
  5. Sorry for the late reply. I received my acceptance email on April 21 and I got the letter in Mississauga on April 24 (according to the receipt I kept from the bank draft which I sent the day of, to cover the deposit). Have a great trip celebrating with your family!
  6. Lol, I remember last year anticipating a package with brochures or something to obsess over before school but there's not much in terms of mail, apart from the book by Hutchinson with a piece of paper to congratulate you (the same as the electronic version). Prior to that, we got a single form to be filled out and returned to the office to confirm acceptance. Also, at some point they gave us a date for the webcast, which was just a replayed video of the webcast from the previous year that was available on youtube...and then we could ask questions at the end. Maybe they'll update it this year. Congrats on the acceptances!
  7. Hey, congrats. Don't want to get your hopes up too much but I interviewed last year and I feel like they've sort of already made up their mind and just want to confirm by meeting you in person (just intuition though, I can't promise that... but I think this was mentioned elsewhere in the forum too). I don't think I've heard of anyone getting rejected following an interview so just...try not to be super weird and you should have a good chance. I can say that they're at least seriously considering you at this point. Also, this is just pure speculation but most interviews were around March-April last year so maybe it says something that yours is quite early in the cycle. I didn't have a good feeling after mine but still got a surprise acceptance. Even though you can't help being nervous, it's very much like a meet and greet and they're very friendly. Your application sounds like mine in some ways so I'm rooting for ya. Good luck!
  8. Hey, OP. Hopefully I can offer some inspiration. My first write, after a whole year devoted to studying, was 149. My diagnostics never exceeded 150 but I still wrote because I had already put together a strong application and paid all the fees. I knew law school was for me and the only thing standing in the way was the LSAT. My second write was not that much better and I was prepared to receive rejections all around and never get to attend law school in Canada. I had the mentality that at least I tried my very best and I would have no regrets. Despite the longshot, I received an acceptance not just at a law school, but at my dream school (and no, I don't have a near perfect GPA). Our situations might differ in that I'm a mature student and applied with all the discretionary considerations, but there is nothing spectacular about what I did that set me apart, other than show that I worked hard. I'm going to go against the grain and say that you can do well in law school with a poor LSAT score. For me, the LSAT was not at all indicative of my logic reasoning skills. My struggle that I couldn't get over was reading quickly and digesting the material in a time crunch. And by that, I mean I would spend more time than is necessary on a question that many would find super easy. I knew I would be capable of getting through law school because if it means that I would have to spend more time than my classmates reading to keep up, I'll suck it up and do it. Some people say to treat law school as a 9-5 job; I figured I'm willing to treat it as a 9-5 + excessive overtime if I got in. I've been committed to doing just that and it's working quite well so far. It's draining, but I can't complain. I'm very lucky to be here. Now about the LSAT. I don't disagree that performing well can demonstrate one's ability to succeed in law school. For the majority of the students, this may apply. However, for a select few, it's just something we need to get past in order to demonstrate our true skills. At least for me, the LSAT was way more challenging than first year law school. Needless to say, everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. Since my greatest challenge was reading fast, I took the approach of trying to perfect my favourite/strongest section - that is, my logic games score. I knew I had plateaued on my reading comprehension (I opted to only concentrate on 3 passages) and there was no way I was going to get the lengthy curve ball questions in logic reasoning if I can't wrap my head around it quick enough (I could only get to about 20 questions in the allotted time). I improved my score ever so slightly on the second and last attempt and I sincerely doubt that I could do better if I had to rewrite again. In fact, I owe many of the extra points gained to guessing "B" on all the questions I couldn't answer in time on that particular test. So maybe I was an exception but I encourage you to give it your all if you haven't already and even if you don't get in this round, if you know it's what you want, spend more time improving all the other parts of your application and try again at all the holistic schools. It may be extremely difficult but know that it's not impossible. Best of luck.
  9. For those who may be worried about having low LSAT scores, I know of a handful of mature students who have been accepted into (and are attending) Osgoode this year with mid 150 scores (including at least two that was lower than 155). So if you think the only way to be considered is to have an impressive LSAT, that's not necessarily true. These people of course have work/life/volunteer experience to make up for it so there's probably a significant emphasis on the personal statement and resume/autobiographical sketch. My stats personally were not all that great and I'm sure my PS was what got me the interview and, ultimately, the acceptance. I honestly put my heart and soul into it to show them how badly I wanted it, and it worked. Most people who have been accepted as a mature student at Osgoode will probably tell you that it truly is a holistic school. Stats are not all that matters. So, if you're a mature student who can't seem to get over the LSAT hurdle, there is hope for you!
  10. Fair point. Just a friendly word of caution: you'll learn that law school up here is very different from the tiering system used in the US in that Canadian law schools are not officially ranked. It's generally accepted that the quality of a legal education from any school in Canada is equally valuable, so using "prestige" to describe why you think one school is better than the other might come off as a little bit pretentious or arrogant (which, of course, was not your intention). Though you are right about U of T's international reputation, perhaps highlighting certain aspects or programs offered that you like more would fare better than making comparisons in the context of "more prestige", or "better reputation" as some people say, especially when you risk offending someone who has attended the "less prestigious" school, or worse, a future employer who happened to attend the school you turned down. Anyway, I think you get the point. Congrats on the acceptance and good luck.
  11. I don't think you should run into any difficulties; I'm in the same boat and have been approved by both banks.
  12. Would you mind sending me a PM of the branch that you contacted? I'm also at Osgoode and would really like to try to negotiate from prime+0.5% to prime since I have really good credit.
  13. Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but when do we know what books we would need to purchase? Are there certain required material we can purchase beforehand or is it best to wait for classes to start? Thank you
  14. Just want to chime in as someone who decided to go the other route and requested a generic reference letter from a post-secondary school I attended briefly in the past, though I haven't been out of school as long as Lawtender33. This was to fulfill Windor's mandatory academic letter requirement if you attended within the last three years, so the situation varies. I desperately went back to the school to ask for a generic letter (way more challenging than it should have been). I figured that since I wanted to apply broadly and give this cycle everything I had, I'd supplement the generic letter with two strong professional letters. I had a lot of work experience but didn't do well on the LSAT despite lots of studying so an acceptance into any school would have been a dream come true. IIRC, apart from Windsor, most other schools responded that two professional letters alone would suffice for a mature/access application. I'm not sure how much weight each letter was given when considering my application altogether but I put a lot of effort into the whole package (as we should) and in the end, it was worth it (even though I dreaded getting those letters at the time). Of course, everyone's situation is different so use your own judgment when applying. I did not get accepted to Windsor, but I somehow gained acceptance into Osgoode.
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