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  1. I wouldn't turn down Windsor for a chance next year (which is certainly not guaranteed) unless it was the dual program.
  2. Osgoode grad here and former admissions committee member. Osgoode is one of the law schools that will consider granting admission without an undergrad. You mentioned you have some post-secondary experience. You will still need to provide a transcript and include your university experience in your application, notwithstanding that it was 20 years ago. That said, I doubt anyone on the adcom will put much weight on it given your substantial experience and how long it has been. I think you likely meet the criteria for consideration for admission without an undergrad. Osgoode admits a lot of mature students, though it's rare that someone gets in without an undergrad. However, it sounds like, based on your brief posts, that you are likely able to demonstrate you have the capacity to succeed in law school. Now it's just up to the LSAT. It will count for a lot more than in a traditional applicant's application, so I suggest you study as much as you are able and aim to get a score above 160, which is approximately the median for most Ontario law schools. I'm not sure where you're looking to apply, but there's at least one school (Osgoode), depending on your LSAT, you seem like you have a decent shot at. I'm sure there are others that will provide similar opportunities, but you should have a look at their admissions requirements or call the schools to check. Good luck.
  3. The L2 calculation on lawapplicants.ca takes the equivalent of the "last 60 credits", notwithstanding that you took part-time years. When schools say "last two years", they usually don't mean literal years, but the number of credits that constitute two years. At least, that has been my understanding. The system tries to do its best to estimate what "last 60 credits" looks like, because not all schools use 3 credits per course (some use 0.5, for example, for a semester course). So the app tries to figure out how many credits are in an average semester-length course and then expands that to take your last two years' worth of that many credits. But this guesswork can sometimes be flawed, giving you strange L2 numbers. All that being said, I actually discovered a problem in the algorithm when reviewing it just now, which I fixed. Try to re-generate your calculated grades by editing them and just clicking save, and see if you get a more reasonable L2 number. The problem was based on how the system was treating full year courses when trying to guess how many credits a semester-length course was, which I think ended up resulting in too many credits being selected when calculating L2 if you had a lot of full-year courses.
  4. Yeah neither have I. I would suggest it's unusual and not recommended. If you take the exam before articling starts, you have two additional chances to take the exam in the same licensing cycle in case it doesn't go your way. Even if you end up delaying your write from before articling to during articling, you are still better off than taking it after. If you take it immediately after in June, the earliest you can get licensed is September, assuming you pass both exams on your first try. If you don't pass in June, you won't get called until next year. I think it's a big risk and so I don't recommend it.
  5. Yeah, so? Students, generally, are not very good judges of their own work. I've been on enough academic appeals committees to know that I will generally take what a student is saying about their work with a grain of salt. Particularly when there's a lot on the line, at least from their perspective, vis a vis how grades affect hiring and career choices early on. Profs almost never have any of these external pressures and are much more likely to evaluate fairly, particularly when anonymized grading is used, like at Osgoode. Also, it has been my experience that law professors, as opposed to professors generally, are more able to consider points of view alternative to their own and grant merit to those points if they are eloquently and reasonably put. That's not to say that law profs are not affected by their inherent biases, but I feel it is likely less so than for non-law professors. I'm not suggesting that OP does not have a reasonable case. I mean, I have no idea what their situation is. If they feel so strongly that they want to appeal their grade, they may do so. There's a policy in place just for that reason. But I also think the characterization of their professor is heavily influenced by their own situation and is likely unfair. To be fair to @BringBackCrunchBerries, I don't think they were suggesting that lawyers were never wrong, or that the prof is not wrong in this case. I think you extrapolated from what was said and took it to an extreme. BringBackCrunchBerries was saying they felt it was unlikely the prof was wrong in this case, given the information OP provided in their post. I tend to agree. That doesn't mean we're not both wrong, or that the prof isn't wrong, or that we're never wrong. Not sure how you got that argument from the posts.
  6. They're called Civil Society Organizations, but there is a very specific criteria that many still see as pretty restrictive vis a vis providing what is traditionally thought as "not for profit legal services" -- e.g., through a charity.
  7. You can indeed appeal your grade. Feel free to. But note that, as others have said, your grade can be adjusted either up or down. So unless you are absolutely certain your grade will only go up, I don't think it would be advisable to appeal.
  8. Not to mention, the next 10 years will bring some big changes to the shipping industry, particularly with self-driving vehicles. I would imagine one of automation's first goals will be to replace as many human truck drivers with AI. I don't see human truck drivers being much the norm in the 2030s. @OP: We should assume that most careers that make decent money will need an undergrad, so we can write that cost off. The cost of law school is expensive, but there are scholarships and bursaries that help out significantly (sometime reducing the burden by as much as 50%), and then loans fill in the rest of the gap. The fees to get called and take the bar exam may be paid for fully or partially by employers, though that depends entirely on whether you have an articling position lined up before you graduate law school (about half do, based on my recollection of the statistics); that said, certainly not every employer will pay these fees, and indeed I doubt soles or small offices will. Law society fees and insurance is then usually paid for by your employer, unless you're working solo. I don't have much experience with the legal profession outside of Bay Street, but my (limited) understanding is all but the smallest or most cash-strapped employers will tend to pay your law society fees and insurance, at least partially. All of that being said, yes it's expensive to become a lawyer, but people without cash can do it. You get access to quite a bit of credit when you get accepted to law school, and if you manage your money diligently and wisely, it will hopefully be enough to see you through law school. Summer work will usually help fill in the gaps. Is it worth it? Well, that depends on what you want. If you're already making good money, then the answer is probably no. Also I wouldn't go into the practice of law just to make money, because the odds of you making it big are, well, difficult to say.
  9. Hi there. You won't be able to use the private messaging feature until you have a certain number of posts on the website. It's not very many, so you should see it unlock as you make a few more posts.
  10. I'm fine with all that, thanks. It helps put what you said into context and I'm sure others will find it useful to know.
  11. Not that I necessarily doubt what you are saying, but ProfReader has a multi-year tenure on these boards and has been a law professor for a long time. You literally joined three hours ago and your first post was in this thread. So while you're welcomed to keep posting here and providing an account of your experience, I think you should at least give some public indication of your background, which you seem to imply lends significant credibility.
  12. I don't know. As you say, my experience is with Osgoode specifically. I don't know how other schools handle their waitlists.
  13. and (d) certainly being a topic of conversation at the next office social, vis a vis, "omg you won't believe what someone tried to do".
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