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  1. Legal writing is very focused on using plain language, writing your point first, and removing excessive wordiness. The factum assignment is about appellate advocacy. You'll be given a decision from the fictitious University of Alberta Court of Appeal and have to write an appeal either for the appellant or respondent. There will be two clearly identified main issues and you and your partner will get to choose how to distribute the work. The link below (at the bottom of the page) contains an example of a University of Alberta Court of Appeal decision that was used as the basis for the factum assignment in the 2017-2018 school year. It also contains sample respondent and appellant factums from students who scored in the top 10% of the class. https://www.ualberta.ca/law/current-students/competitive-moot-program/brimacombe-selection-round Edit: When I have a bit more time I will probably write a post in this thread about what to expect for LRW where I briefly explain the assignments people will be expected to do. May be useful for people who stumble upon this thread in the future.
  2. University of Alberta - Pure L2/LSAT. Does not care at all about CGPA. However, the University of Alberta is the only school in Canada that averages the LSAT. If you bomb your first attempt at the LSAT, the U of A is basically off the table. -- I currently attend this school. My first two years were probably as bad as yours, but I still received an acceptance on the first day of invites. University of Calgary - Primarily L2, but considers CGPA. A terrible CGPA will be a disadvantage but I do occasionally see people with terrible CGPAs get accepted if everything else is good. Dalhousie - Claims to only look at last 2 years for GPA purposes, but they seem to be prejudiced against terrible CGPAs. It seems fairly common for people with otherwise great stats to get an invite for an interview if their CGPA is too low. However, some people with low CGPAs do seem to get accepted without an interview. University of Manitoba - Only cares about your index score created from your adjusted GPA (they do drops) and LSAT. Low CGPA won't effect you if your AGPA/LSAT combination is high enough. UNB - Uses drops for their GPA calculation. I've seen lots of people with low CGPAs get accepted at UNB if they have good LSAT scores. It's one of the best schools for splitters. However, they give priority to people form NB/NL/PEI Queens/Western - These are the main schools in Ontario that uses L2. If I remember correctly a terrible CGPA makes it very difficult to get accepted. I don't know the specifics for these schools though. University of Saskatchewan - Uses your best two years of full-time study for GPA purposes. Main issue is they seem to fairly heavily prioritize people with a connection to Saskatchewan. I've seen quite a few people with bad CGPAs get accepted
  3. Yeah. You'll randomly be assigned a partner from your learning group for the factum. You share a grade for the written portion but receive an individual grade for the oral arguments.
  4. It's also important to mention that there are hundreds of Canadians studying law abroad. For example, Bond has 150 Canadian students alone. I'm sure a large percentage of the hundreds of Canadians studying law abroad apply to transfer to a Canadian school after 1L. Unfortunately for them, each Canadian school only allows a small number of transfers per year. It wouldn't surprise me if 10% or less of foreign students applying for a transfer get accepted at a Canadian law school.
  5. To answer the question in the title you can break down the sources of the stigma. Off the top of my head the major contributors are: 1. Bad student stigma - Stigma related to the idea that the student couldn't get into any of the law schools in Canada. 2. Stigma related to uncertainty about the school - Is the school reputable? Are the students competitive? What do the grades mean? How do I compare an applicant from said foreign school to local candidates? 3. Stigma related to concerns over legal knowledge - does this applicant have a disadvantage relative to Canadian applicants with respect to knowledge about Canada's legal system? 4. Stigma related to disliking the idea of students using foreign schools as a backdoor to legal practice in Canada. If you go to Harvard you won't have an issue with 1 or 2. 4 Also won't be much of an issue because in the case of Harvard, you're not attempting to use foreign schools as a backdoor to practice in Canada. However, there may still be a concern as to whether you have a disadvantage when it comes to legal knowledge about Canada. If you go to Oxford, your main issue would be 3 with lesser issues in 1 and 2 because United Kingdom law schools don't require LSATs or undergraduate degrees and also have a grading system most Canadians aren't familiar with. Oxford and Harvard are obviously extreme examples though. If you're talking about random United Kingdom law schools that are well regarded within the United Kingdom but almost unheard of in other countries then you're going to run into almost as much stigma as if you attended known degree mills like Bond. There's also not much of a point arguing with us that this shouldn't be the case. The fact of the matter is that foreign graduates usually have a nightmare of an experience trying to find meaningful employment and articles within Canada. Arguing with random posters on lawstudents.ca has a zero percent chance of changing anything.
  6. You're probably not going to find a one bedroom unit for $1,000 close to campus (as in easily walkable) that allows parking. When I was looking at the units close to campus it was generally only bachelor/studio units that were in that price range and they generally didn't include parking. I pay $1,100 (split with my girlfriend) for a nice one bedroom unit in Oliver with parking included. It used to be a 10 minute bus ride to campus but they removed the bus route in the middle of the school year because of bridge construction and now I have to bus downtown and then take the LRT. What are you looking for in an apartment/neighbourhood? It may make it easier to give you some suggestions. Rentfaster.ca seems to be the most popular place in Edmonton for apartment listings
  7. It wouldn't surprise me if my 120 WPM typing speed earned me an extra 0.1 to 0.2 on my overall 1L GPA relative to if I was average at typing I'm honestly not sure how the super slow typers even manage to deal with some of these exams.
  8. I find it amusing. Whenever a person with a Harvey Specter username changes their avatar they essentially become a new account to me. I can't keep track of all of them.
  9. I am jealous you got your grades back already
  10. Depending on what classes you have left and the residency requirements of your undergraduate institution you may be able to finish it over the summer or via distance education.
  11. How are we defining rich here? I'd argue that over a 30-40 year career the lawyers at the top end of the profession can become quite rich by the standards of the average person.
  12. It doesn't surprise me at all that many lawyers experience a pay increase when they become judges. 1. Just because a person is an excellent lawyer with a solid reputation doesn't mean they are necessarily going to be maximizing their profits in private practice. They can prioritize free time instead of income after a certain point. They can not want the hassle of hiring additional people to deal with the extra work. They can not like or not be great at the business side of a legal practice. 2. If they work for the government, e.g. as a Crown, they are going to be getting a pay increase when they become a judge. If they work either full-time or part-time in academia they are likely to receive a pay increase when they become judges. If they are being selective with the cases they take (e.g. only taking appellate work) they may receive a pay increase when becoming judges. 3. They can practice in locations where lawyers earn less on average. For example, a first-year big law associate in Atlantic Canada earns something like $55,000-$60,000 compared to a close to double that in Toronto/Calgary/Montreal/Vancouver. I'm sure the partner salaries in these locations are comparatively lower on average as well. StatsCan also shows median lawyer incomes in many Atlantic Canadian cities (as well as other places like Winnipeg) at around $90,000. Compare this to $140,000 for Toronto, $150,000 for Calgary, or $130,000 for Edmonton. 4. Selection bias. People who are earning significantly above what the average judge earns are probably less inclined to want to become a judge. People who absolutely love the business aspect of the law may also be less likely to be interested in becoming a judge.
  13. There's no cap for private lawyers If you have more work than you know what to do with you generally either increase your prices or hire associates (or both). If a big law firm tried to limit the earnings of top rainmakers at $450,000 they would probably go out of business as their top earners would take the millions of dollars of revenue they generate elsewhere.
  14. The issue for new(ish) lawyers is that because personal injury lawyers work on contingency, there is almost no incentive for a person to not go the most established firms/lawyers in the town. Top personal injury firms also tend to have crazy advertising budgets which means when a person needs a personal injury lawyer they'll probably instantly think of the personal injury firm that has been running ads on the radio every 10 minutes for their entire lives rather than some random nobody But yes, I imagine after a person is able to establish themselves in that area of law that they can go into auto pilot rather than necessarily having to be a great lawyer
  15. It's hard to say The best paid lawyers outside of Big Law are generally those who are able to fill their schedule with cash clients they brought in themselves. This makes it difficult to ascertain how much each lawyer is earning since it isn't something that is easy to record like lock-step associate salaries. From what I've read criminal law is one of the more difficult areas to fill your schedule up with cash clients. It's also an area with limited associate positions. I suspect family law becomes quite lucrative when you get enough experience to attract middle class or above professionals as clients. Personal injury obviously has the potential to be lucrative, but it seems like a field where a small handful of established firms or lawyers eat up most of the major files. I'm not sure of other areas.
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