Jump to content

Toad

Members
  • Content Count

    553
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Community Reputation

391 Good People

About Toad

  • Rank

Recent Profile Visitors

3135 profile views
  1. The lowest grade I ever received in law school was on my 1L constitutional law midterm. I received a C+. Luckily, the midterm was worth only 30% of my final grade and I ended up receiving a B+ in the class. I basically knew the laws individually, but couldn't synthesize them and thread the needle when they were applied to a hard fact pattern. Grades in the C range aren't all that rare. Depending on the class, it means you were in the bottom 10-25%~ of the class. Which means you were in the bottom 10-25% of a class comprised of people who got A averages in undergraduate. Below are some examples of the number of people who received C's or below in some of my 1L classes. Each class had 60~ people. Class A - 3.0 Curve C+ 8 C 1 C- 1 D+ 2 Class B - 3.0 Curve C+ 3 C 1 D 1 Class C - 2.7 Curve C 8 D+ 6 F 1
  2. I wouldn't go as far as to say nobody fails law school. Some schools, like the U of A, require a certain GPA to pass the year. If you receive an average below a 2.0 in a year you will be required to withdraw from the school. This can be appealed, but the impact is particularly devastating if you failed 1L because you have to redo some or all of your classes and won't be allowed to take any upper year classes until you have redone all or part of 1L with satisfactory grades. To the best of my knowledge there are around 2-4 people who straight up fail 1L each year even if they did not technically fail any of the individual classes. Most of them end up redoing 1L. In terms of individual classes, there was only one class in my 1L cohort where someone received an F and it was in a class where the professor curved to a 2.7 (most professors in 1L curve to a 2.9 or 3.0). Failure is even rarer in upper year classes because the classes are usually curved between a 3.0 - 3.2 which makes it such that the lowest grade in the class is usually a C or C+. Despite all of the above, it is true that failure is rare. Most students will get in the B range for the vast majority of their classes regardless of how bad they felt they bombed their exam.
  3. Unless something has changed recently, the U of A doesn't care. They'll compute your GPA/LSAT and if you are above their cutoff, you get an invite. I had W's all over the place on my transcript and received an invite on the first day of invites in January of 2018. The main thing you want to avoid is dropping a class when doing so will make them need to look at a previous semester where you may not have done as well in. It might be different if you are one of the last 10-20 people who are offered a spot because these people tend to be viewed more holistically.
  4. Many of the alternative careers people cite for those with a law degree are either also extremely difficult to get into and/or have additional requirements to get into other than merely a JD. A JD can be a nightmare for finding non-law related work in many cases as employers are scared you will jump ship. This is especially the case if the position isn't what people refer to as "legal adjacent." There's almost never a time where it is a good idea to get a JD if you are not planning to become a lawyer. There will almost always be an alternative pathway to just about any non-legal position that is cheaper and less time consuming than a JD and that won't require you to go through herculean efforts to convince any recruiter that you aren't a flight risk for the first 3-5 years of your non-legal career.
  5. How did you manage? The average handwriting speed is like 15 WPM and professors generally do not want point form. All of the students who tried handwriting their 1L midterms in my cohort ended up using laptops by the time the final came. Presumptively because they got murdered by the curve because all of their classmates could provide much more analysis than them. ____ Regarding OP's question At the U of A we use Exam 4. We are given an anonymous exam ID and that's the only identifying information on the exam. The professors grade the exams, curve them, and then submit the curve for approval. After the curve is approved they receive the decoded marks and can see who received what grades. Here's a Tweet from one of our professors from a few weeks back showing that professors can and do look at marks: "I cannot fully express how delighted I was that year when the decoded marks revealed that she had the highest mark on the final. It doesn't always work out that way, but the effort, the willingness to change and go the distance - & the self-reflection itself, will serve you well." The purpose of anonymous grading is to prevent bias in grading, not to prevent professors from knowing how their students performed. I also received an email from a professor a year after I took a class with him. He was looking for a research assistant and sent out an email to everyone who did well in his classes to draw their attention to the position and encourage them to apply. So in certain circumstances professors may even look at your grades well after you are done with their classes.
  6. I'm coming to realize one of the social aspects that I am missing out on because of all of the exams being online is being able to ascertain what the class average will be like (and therefore whether the entire class will be saved by the curve) based on how horrified my classmates look after everyone has submitted their exams.
  7. For percentage schools they just take your average percentage for the last 2 years and do a single conversion. For almost all schools the conversion would be: 82% = 3.7 83% = 3.8 84% = 3.9 85%+ = 4 I got the percentages conversions from asking the former Admissions Coordinator a million questions when I was in the process of applying a few years ago. There are also other threads throughout this forum where people have similarly confirmed the percentage conversions. For example one for UBC to UoA applicants : The same percentage conversions as UBC applied to my much less prestigious undergraduate institution as well.
  8. They do a one time conversion of your percentage average. 84% would translate in to a 3.9 L2 GPA. 3.9/160 = in
  9. Some people enjoy teaching. There is also some value in being able to say you know your area of practice enough to teach it at the local law school. In areas like family and criminal, I've noticed that some of the practitioners teaching at the school use their course as an opportunity to get to know the people who are about to enter their practice area. I haven't had any of the negative issues that you have had when it comes to courses taught by practitioners.
  10. I don't think there was anything on my report that suggested I was of particular risk either. I occasionally let a balance linger on my cards, but they were almost always below 10% utilization. No new inquiries. No late payments. No collections. I'll call when I get some time to see if they have any particular reasons listed as to why they reduced it. In the last month on this forum we have also had a person with excellent credit get rejected for a Scotia PSLOC and another person whose cards weren't going to get renewed after the expiry date (however, he later contacted someone else and they said it was a mistake). It looks like Scotia, like with most banks, are tightening credit and reviewing their exposure. We are yet to have anything that has effected a large number of people yet though. It might just come down to dumb luck as to whether their discretion effects you negatively. --- Better name for this thread would probably be "Looks like Scotiabank is beginning to reduce credit card limits" for now.
  11. Mine were both reduced about 2 hours ago by the looks of it. I only noticed because I received the credit limit approaching notice in my email. I thought my cards may have been compromised, but it was caused by the limit reductions. Credit score a hair over 700. No late payments in my 10 year credit history. No collections. Overall utilization at around 40-45% because of the line of credit. I suspect if they reduced mine, most students are vulnerable because my credit history is fairly solid.
  12. Almost certain they can do whatever they want. They could probably straight up cancel all of your accounts without notice if they wanted.
  13. I just had the limits on both my Gold Amex and Passport Visa reduced from $5,000 to $1,000. I'm currently about to enter 3L. My credit score is around 700~ and there is nothing negative on my report. It looks like banks are beginning to reduce their exposure in anticipation of the economic impacts of COVID-19. Seriously considering transferring $20,000 from my LOC into a savings account in case they decide to hit the LOC too. Anyone else have this happen yet?
  14. I suspect this year is going to a be a blood bath. Many of the 3Ls who were interviewing for articling positions around the end of the last school year had their interviews cancelled. Some people with scheduled articles had their articles delayed or cancelled. Many of these people will be applying for articling positions that come up during the school year this year. There will be more people than normal applying for any remotely desirable articling position that comes up this year. Many of the smaller firms have had their businesses devastated. Even if there is a sudden influx of business as things begin to open up, I suspect the first priority for smaller firms will be hiring back any employees they had to lay off and trying to establish a steady cash flow again. There's also still a great deal of uncertainty related to COVID-19 and the economy going around. I anticipate there will be fewer articling positions available than normal this year.
  15. Here's a link with some information about the parental income of University of Toronto law students: http://ultravires.ca/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/UV-February-2018-Recruitment-Special.pdf For comparison, the 50th percentile of household incomes in Ontario is around $74,260 in 2016 Around 28% of students at U of T law have parental incomes of $200,000+ which is to the best of my knowledge in the top 2-3% of household incomes in Canada.
×
×
  • Create New...