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  1. Throughout my time in UK Law School, we always had closed book exams, but they allowed students to bring in a statue book and highlight any sentence they want within that statue book. Some students have figured out that you can highlight certain letters on certain pages to create code, wherein you can spell case names, judge names and even sentences describing a judges obiter. One can essentially leave any note they want to have available during the exam with this method. The ultimate way to cheat and make it appear to the marker that you are some sort of genius with regards to remembering pertinent facts/legal conclusions. IMO, more and more students will continue using this method until they finally adopt the open book policy that Canada has implemented. I personally know multiple people who had used this method since Y1 and ended up graduating in the top 2% of their class. Its a broken system and it needs to change.
  2. Its more so the fact that the one barrier to "technical" equivalency (if not actual equivalency) for foreign trained lawyers is not actually a barrier at all. If I was a Canadian trained lawyer, I would be insulted by the fact that the NCA is what stands between a foreign trained lawyer being technically equivalent to me.
  3. It just felt weird to work like a dog in Law School, crunching like a Korean in my bedroom, only to be able to laugh past the NCAs.
  4. I guess im fine with NCA exams like criminal being open book, because you still need to apply the material/case law to the unique problem question, and use your brain. Prof resp, admin law, constitutional and foundations should not be open book, imho.
  5. Not gonna lie, that changed my stance on this quite a bit. I guess its hard to get into Canadian law school but easy to graduate once in?
  6. I didn't realize that you can carry any notes in with you for Canadian Exams. I apologize. Not a single law exam was open book for me in England, which is probably why I assumed it was the same in Canada
  7. How can you honestly say that the NCA's are an equivalency of knowledge in Canadian law and a test of competency? All you need to do to pass is compile comprehensive notes (which most students are purchasing online) and copy the canned answers/canned analysis almost verbatim. Where is the equivalency and competency in that?
  8. As long as you have connections and the ability to bring in lots of billables, your scholastic intelligence and foreign law school don't matter at all.
  9. I am not anxious about how I'm going to compete. I've been working at a Canadian firm for 3 summers, working full time during the NCAs, and now I will be articling at the same firm. I just seriously cant believe how much of a joke the NCAs are. The difficulty commonly associated with Canadian Law School compared to the ease associated with the NCAs just doesn't add up. The knowledge and skills required to pass the NCA exams should be very similar to that which is required for Canadian Law School Exams...but its not even in the same stratosphere. I guess they need to make money somehow. And who better to tax than the foreign "Canadian Lawyer" dreamers who will have very little chance to pass the bar and even less of a chance to succeed in private practice. Pretty scummy imho.
  10. Im just being honest, regardless of the fact that this honesty ultimately reflects badly on myself. The NCA exam does not equate to a Canadian Law School degree. Not even close.
  11. 1) It doesn't test any traditional skills that would be indicative of a strong student 2) Very little application of the material is ever required, and in certain exams such as Criminal and Prof Resp, you can get by almost solely on canned answers and templates. 3) Only study requirement is having comprehensive organized notes. You are allowed to bring anything you want in, so the more notes the better. Its almost comical how many notes some students bring into the exams, because you know they are just playing the odds and accounting for any possible question that could occur. In reality, most students probably refer to less than 5% of the notes that they bring in. 4) You only need to pass! I remember that in professional responsibility, I encountered a ridiculously easy question worth 25% of the entire paper. After doing this question first, I remember feeling as if I could throw up on the rest of the paper and still pass. A feeling that nobody should really obtain easy on any type of competitive scholastic exam.
  12. All correct. My opinion is coming from someone who just went through the NCA process and finished October 2018.
  13. If you have 50$ to purchase a good set of notes online and a 12th grade English literacy level, you can pass with very little to no effort. Essentially, I see the NCA Exams as 1) A tool for filtering out weak English literacy candidates 2) A money making racket. If you are English first language, and you fail an NCA exam, you should seriously be ashamed.
  14. why defer? do you have your bachelors? just go in 2015 to the execrated program and by 2016, you will only have 1 year of school left. also i know people that went the foreign route and had no problem getting articling jobs.
  15. Thank you for the solid reply. I understand that university reputation may not amount to much (some on this forum would probably be quick to argue otherwise) but it couldn't hurt! As for the money factor, I don't really discuss personal finances in public if thats what your getting at. I more or less included that piece of information to put my situation into context.
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