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  1. I don't think I'm overthinking anything, but yes it's difficult to quantify how much of an impact not accepting a dinner will have. As I said, it's very much firm and candidate dependent. There are definitely firms that use acceptance of a meal as a proxy for interest and use it as a quick way to narrow their list or in determining their top candidates. Some firms will simply make offers to the candidates they like. Anecdotally, the firms I've found to be more flexible and offer-friendly in their approach are those who are hiring 20-30 students. Generally, firms place a massive amount of effort in determining the likelihood of candidates accepting an offer come call day. Acceptance of a dinner, though just one indicator, is a large one that in certain circumstances can be overcome. Just to your last point - I don't believe cancelling a dinner is really screwing anyone over. I don't think canceling a dinner, if done appropriately (i.e. not 10 minutes before), is equivalent to telling a firm they're your first choice when you have no plans of accepting their offer, which I see as screwing a recruiter over. I see it closer in similarity to cancelling any interview during the process.
  2. Because by doing so you're indicating to them that you're not as interested as you are in other firms, moving you towards the bottom of their list as compared to all the students who accepted their invitation. If they would have eliminated you, then yes you're in the same position. And yes, if they haven't, and are still interested in you even though you didn't take a meal, you could be in a position where you have a chance at both firms. However, the likelihood of going far with a firm is likely diminished when you don't accept their dinner. Only if they are truly interested in you are you in a better position than with my plan - and my point is that I think this is unlikely. If you schedule one dinner and decline another, you face the risk of the firm you scheduled a dinner with not liking you and the firm you declined a dinner with thinking you don't like them. If you schedule both dinners, you're in a position to make a much more educated decision and move forward with one of those firms much later in the game.
  3. Fair point. Yes, if you cancel that second dinner, you will not get an offer at that firm. However, the way I imagine the alternative (and this is a scenario I was in) is that you do not even schedule an interview with the firm because you can't fit in a meal and therefore you know you have a low chance of getting an offer from them. Whether you can actually get an offer without doing a meal is very much firm and candidate dependent. I think that most people by Tuesday afternoon have already narrowed their possible landing spots - either the firms have made the decision for you, in which case you go to dinner with the firm that's still interested, or you're making the decision and you go to dinner with the firm you're leaning towards. Ultimately what this does is delays the narrowing of firms decision until the Tuesday as opposed to call day.
  4. Unpopular opinion, but I don't think it's a bad decision to double book dinners for the Tuesday night. Then you can cancel the dinner with the firm you're less interested in or seems less interested in you. I understand that people see it as being in bad taste, but the reality is you don't want to be having a dinner with a firm that you've realized you're not going to end up at and not have scheduled a dinner with a firm that you are more interested in. You also don't want to give your dinner slot and then have the firm cancel that dinner after they've decided not to have you continue through the process, leaving you without a Tuesday dinner. This happens often. People often counter this by saying that recruiters talk. Recruiters are not swapping with other firms who they've scheduled dinners with. You're also not really leaving a bad taste in anyones mouth when you send an email apologizing for being unable to make dinner that night - no one cares that much. The process can be tough and I think this is a low-risk avenue for students to look out for their interests.
  5. ASAPLouBanga

    2017 Associate Salary Bump (Toronto)

    I think Blakes and Stikes are following the McCarthys scale
  6. ASAPLouBanga

    2018 1L Toronto Recruit

    Hold out for the 2L recruit.
  7. ASAPLouBanga

    Firm Perks

    Can you comment specifically on any firms that fall into either category? I imagine it's not a secret among those who work on Bay Street.
  8. ASAPLouBanga

    JD/MBA Dual Degree

    There's no set grade really, so I couldn't tell you. The person who would have a better idea is Graham Sue at Schulich. You could give him a call and he could give you an idea if you should write the GMAT or not.
  9. ASAPLouBanga

    JD/MBA Dual Degree

    You don't need a 165 on the LSAT for them to waive the gmat. If your grades are fine, a 162 should suffice.
  10. I took civ pro this year, and although I used the most recent rule book, I used summaries from the previous two years and I had no issues. The changes are extremely minimal, so you should be fine with the 2016 edition
  11. I think a 1L student saying they excel at the practice of law would sound incredibly stupid.
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    Dean's List Average

    You're right actually. First Year Distribution of Averages for 2014-2015 A+ = 0% A = 11% B+ = 35% B = 39% C+ = 13% C = 1% F = 1%
  13. ASAPLouBanga

    Dean's List Average

    I believe the back of transcripts only shows the grade distributions for individual classes, not for overall GPAs. I've never seen anything that says X% of students have this overall average.
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    Dean's List Average

    Where did you find this grade distribution chart?
  15. The response I usually get when inquiring about grades is all you need is a B+ average, so I take that to mean it'll leave you in a pretty good position with plenty of interviews, assuming the rest of your application is solid.
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