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  1. Save it for interviews.
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    Summer Student to Articling Student

    It's virtually guaranteed that you'll be invited to return as an articling student. However, depending on the firm, your performance as a summer student may have some -- though likely not much -- bearing on whether or not you get hired back as an associate.
  3. This is clearly a question for the LSO.
  4. I haven't heard of any specific cutoffs and I wouldn't want to speculate beyond saying that the conventional wisdom is that a B+ average is competitive for most Bay St positions, so I would imagine that cutoffs would be lower -- perhaps somewhere in the B to B- range. That said, I don't think anyone should make decisions about which firm(s) to apply to based on speculation about GPA cutoffs. I'm not so sure that there is a correlation. Whether or not grades matter for involvement in extracurriculars depends on the school. At Western, for example, with the possible exception of the Jessup Moot, I don't think grades mattered much, if at all, in terms of getting involved in moots and clinics. Sure, there are some extracurriculars -- e.g. TA/research assistant positions -- for which good 1L grades appear to be a requirement. However, most (perhaps all) of the 1L moots are open to whoever wants to participate, and Western holds an internal advocacy competition -- a tryout of sorts -- to determine who gets to participate in the upper-year external moots. And hiring for clinics (a) typically happens at the beginning of 1L and (b) is usually handled by upper-year students involved in the those clinics, meaning that your 1L grades wouldn't be a factor.
  5. I assume you are asking about the Toronto recruit. With respect to weighting, it depends on the firm, but as a general rule I would say that more emphasis is placed on grades than on extracurriculars. A number of firms have a GPA cut-off. I think it would be fair to say that some involvement in law school-related extracurriculars is expected. But beyond that, in terms of what activities to have on your resume, it depends on (1) what practice area(s) you think you might be interested in at this point, and (2) what firm(s) you intend on applying to. For example, if in your cover letter to Lenczner you say that all you've ever wanted to do is litigate, but you haven't participated in any advocacy competitions/moots, well, that's probably not going to work out well for you. Similarly, if you say you're primarily interested in business/corporate law, but all of your extra-curricular activities are related to criminal law, that might raise a red flag.
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    Citizen makes decent watches. Similar to Seiko.
  7. Only on LawStudents.ca would this thread make it to 4 pages...
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    While you don't need to reply to every email, personally I would err on the side of caution and send a very short thank you email along the lines of "Thank you for confirming. I look forward to meeting [interviewer names]". The thing about thank you notes is that many lawyers (unfortunately) still expect them; not sending a thank you note can do more harm than sending an unnecesary one.
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    If you know for a fact that you will be late, I would let the recruiter know now/ASAP. Aside from the fact that it's the considerate thing to do, there's a chance they will be able to accommodate your schedule by moving your interview.
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    I always sent a quick email saying something along the lines of, "Thank you for confirming. I look forward to meeting with you and [interviewer names (if they told you who you will be interviewing with)]."
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    While this may be an indication of where you currently rank with that firm, there are two reasons why you should not worry too much about it. First, as I said above in response to another poster, rankings at this point are preliminary and based on nothing more than your OCI and your application package -- they will change quite a bit as the process moves foward. Second, there could be a number of reasons why you were offered a Monday afternoon slot as opposed to a morning slot. Sure, it could be an indication that you are lower on their current ranking. Alternatively, they may not have had that many Monday morning slots available (this would admittedly be less likely if the firm is a large full service firm) and they went quickly. Or it could simply be that the articling student who called you was too delirious/hungover to notice that there were Monday morning slots left. TL/DR: Don't read too much into when a firm called you or what slot you were offered. This process can be stressful -- there's no point in stressing yourself out about (ultimately inconsequential) things like this.
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Yes, it can be indicative, but I wouldn't read too much into it. At this point, firms really only have your application package and a very brief OCI to go off of; whatever rankings firms have will change quite a bit over the course of the process.
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    It couldn't hurt, but it's unlikely that anything will come from it.
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Frankly, I would call more often than every 15 minutes. Chances are they want to be done with this sooner rather than later.
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    2L Summer (2019) Recruit PFOs/ITCs

    Don't worry about it. I was making calls this year. Those things don't matter to us (we remember how much of a shit show call day was), and even if the caller noticed, it's not the type of thing you would tell a recruiter about. ETA: The types of things we would tell our student director about were generally only positive. For example, if you were forced to book an interview on Tuesday (for whatever reason), but you indicated that you really wanted a Monday time slot, I would make note of that (because it indicates you're interested in us) and pass it on to the student director. We're not out to hurt your chances. I think this would also ring true for any interactions you have with summer or articling students throughout the remainder of the process; we're here to help you, not hurt you.