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  1. Nothing I have ever stated on this board approaches anything regarding what you've stated here in your second sentence. Check yourself please. You were giving bad advice. You're still a law student. Don't give advice about the legal profession--even fashion based--if you aren't in it. And certainly don't act like an authority over those who are. Again: check yourself.
  2. 1. Dunno wear you work, @QuincyWagstaff but I see plenty of lawyers--both senior and junior, both private and govenment--wearing tie clips. Toronto, Ottawa, and elsewhere. Some in my office right now. I think "never" is a bit strong. I probably see at least one daily. That said, I've never worn one. I don't think they're a great accessory, but different strokes for different folks. 2. LOL, neither a tie clip, nor a pocket square, are necessary. Don't over-accessorize, it makes you look like a peacock. Also, please don't take the advice about buying ties off Amazon. And it is patently untrue, @mazzystar that "there isn't a real difference in brand (or quality) between alot of these minor things". Cheap things are made cheaply from cheap materials--elsewise they wouldn't be cheap. I can tell your pocketsquare is a garbage piece of material and I know you tie square is made of plastic. They look exactly like the amount you paid for them. Don't take this as advice to spend a lot of money either! Buy on sale, and buy used. Just don't buy cheap crap.
  3. No need to apologize. You're more than welcome to feel good about your new tie. I just wouldn't brag that you got a great deal on it. Or that a store known for high-priced designer garments had a good selection of nice garments. They better have! For $100, I presume you got yourself a dope, unique Paul Smith, Canali, or Zegna tie, and not just a Nordstrom brand polka dot you could have found an identical version of at the Bay for $15.
  4. I've never in my life paid $100 for a tie. I own some spectacular ties. To each his own, but--especially for students reading this in the future--you needn't spend $100 or even $50 on a tie to make a good impression.
  5. Sorry, but neither the above bold is particularly strong advice. Re the first: A plain red tie will only make you look like a waiter if you pair it with a black shirt. Go ahead and google "Black shirt red tie". Not a good look. Otherwise, a plain red tie is so ubiquitous that probably ever version of James Bond has sported one. I agree that one should generally avoid plain, glossy ties of the most pure version of a primary and secondary colours. You'll look basic. If you go red, you might even look like Trump. Personally, I don't think its a great look. But could it rule you out of a job? Probably not. Re the second advice: Regardless of the fact that your tie alone probably won't get you passed over for a position, don't just wear any tie. Everybody can try a bit harder than sporting a plain basic-colour tie and put some thought into an interview outfit. And I love me a plain-colour tie. But it's naive to think you aren't being judged on first impressions, and your tie, outfit, shirt, shoes, hair-cut, glasses, etc. all factor into an assessment of how much thought you put into presenting yourself. Maybe there's no strong correlation between how one presents themselves, via fashion, style, and health, and and how much thought or detail one puts into their legal work. But plenty of people certaintIy and reasonably believe there is such a correlation. And even if there isn't, at the very least it isn't unreasonable to think the person selecting successful candidates wants to hire someone who presents well to their colleagues and, later, clients/business partners/etc. tl;dr: 1. there's no rule about red ties. 2. Don't just wear a tie, put some thought into it; it'll show. 3. Above all else, its a simple equation: wear whatever tie (and outfit overall) maximizes your confidence in that interview. If the red tie does that, great. If not, pick a different tie.
  6. Seconded. Love Ritual. Plus, if you're eating on your own dime, there's plenty of solid discounts to go around once you get a few orders in.
  7. As someone who is the best, let me tell you it is equally hard to accept the outright overcrowding of plebes and n00bs out there cluttering up the world with inferiority. Two sides of the same coin I say. Best thing to do is just drown out the noise by putting more feathers in my cap. I often enter competitions I know in advance I'm going to win just for the taste of victory. Because no matter how sour there's always that pinch of sweet that reminds me nobody can ever surpass me; my perch atop success mountain is sturdier than any oak. I don't know if that answers your question.
  8. First, you're more likely to spill something on your suit than rip it. And if you have a dark navy or charcoal suit, probably won't be a huge issue unless you spill something that glows. You can always order a rush weekend dry clean job if needed. Second, in my many years of suit-wearing, I've never once significantly ripped a suit. A button fell off once leaving a very smallish hole that I couldn't self-tailor, but it wasn't hard to find a tailor who could patch it up in an hour. Third, as a summer student, you aren't dealing with a circumstance where ripping your only suit is an actual emergency. As in, where you have to attend court in an hour or your client is coming in for an urgent and sensitive meeting, but a rabid dog tore your pants on the walk to work and all of a sudden your underwear is showing (also, unless an extra suit is always kept in the office, that's a problem anyone would have to fend with). Just keep a backup pair of dress pants in your office, and realize that nobody is going to reprimand you because you aren't writing your limitation period memo in your full suit jacket and pants. One suit is fine for law students. Two is better, but barely necessary.
  9. Well, at first glance and by your own admission that its been a problem your whole life, it might be you and not the work. In that case, diagnosing and resolving your internally developed enthusiasm, would be hard to do without more long-term and personal information. You're probably better off talking to someone in person, either a colleague, mentor, or your therapist, if you have one. It is trite to say that different things are boring to different people. Some people, for example, practice real estate law. I don't know how, but they do it. Meanwhile, when I talk to people about some of the types of law I practice or am fascinated by, even when it is clear I'm passionate about it, I can see their eyes glazing over and its time to wrap up my little story. The point is, if it isn't you and it is the work, you really have three options and you already knew them before you asked internet strangers: 1. Figure out what's exciting about the work; 2. Find new work that isn't boring to you; or 3. Suck it up and accept your boring life. Assuming the issue isn't coming from within, you can certainly try harder at Option 1 and cut the negative self-talk about how boring your job is and how you're stuck doing it. That you say in your penultimate paragraph "this is who I am" is the worst part of it that you need to snap out of. Nothing in your above post provides any reason to suggest you're chained to your current position or that you're inherently a boring person. So why are you telling yourself that and why are you telling anonymous strangers that? If I'm wrong, Option 3 is still only relevant after exhausting attempts at Option 1 and if you're starving, have other mouths to feed, are massively in debt, or have other reasons for which you simply cannot leave your job to try and improve your well-being somewhere else. Which is fine and there's nothing wrong with just working to live--I acknowledge the privilege some of us have to pursue more engaging career options. But in that case, I can't see how you could exhaust ways to engage with the work you're stuck doing. You're creative, by your own identification. Find ways to apply that creativity to your current position and have fun doing what you're doing.
  10. You don't really want your suit to be the standout item of your outfit at law school type business formal event. Your suit should stand out because its a nice suit. Then again, of my suits, the one that gets the most compliments is a cheap, subtle Glen-check charcoal. And there's no shortage of men wearing expensive suits over-top and in combination with blah shirts and accessories. The point is this: you don't need to buy a second suit if the sole issue is that the one you have is grey. Greay is Great. Buy a new suit only if you need a second suit (and in law school, you don't.) Instead, if you want to stand out, focus on how you style your grey suit. Get some nice and fitted dress shirts and interesting (not flashy) ties at a fraction of the cost of a new suit. Even better, ties are basically free if you live somewhere with well-curated thrift stores. I haven't bought a new ties in ages. Keep your suit fresh and clean, and just rotate in your new shirt and tie combinations.
  11. Most law school books are obsolete a few years after publish. Unless you have the seminal treatise on a general subject, like contract law for example (and even those typically get updates every few years), you'll be missing key recent cases and statutory amendments, etc. Texts have their max resale value the semester after use...every year after that they approach zero dollars. Not only is it not weird, it is the most rational time to sell your books. If you work for a firm, government, or other organization, you'll probably get updated versions of the texts you need. Westlaw/Lexis have lots of great texts and resources if you have access. CanLii offers good free resources from time to time. If you don't work for a firm, government, or other organization, and live in a large city, you can hit a law library as needed. Most courthouses have a dece library. Sell those suckers I say.
  12. Why would you wait until you've confirmed an interview? The whole point of cold-emailing--regardless of whether an organization has posted a job opening or not--is for the people involved to get to the interview. For you to get an interview. Apologies if my above posts aren't clear. The idea of an informational chat is to connect with someone you either would like to interview you or to whom you are actively applying. If you've already applied and have an interview, you would just go to the interview.
  13. It is relatively common outside law. I don't think merely requesting it does anything to signal specific interest in a prospective employer nor would it prove the candidate wants to change their area/field/go public-to-private. Asking for an informational coffee, chat, whathaveyou, pre-interview---in any profssion---is simply a tool that a candidate can use to gather intel (about the organization, about the hiring/interview process, about the kinds of people who work there, etc.) before an interview. It is also a tool that a prospective employer can use to gather intel on the candidate (and potentially rule them out, or increase their interest in them) before interviewing them. As it is a tool, it's always optional. But in my view, if you're affable and good at interviews, asking for an informational chat is a no-brainer: it allows you to gather information, it demonstrates that you're the type of person who takes initiative and is prepared, and depending on who you met with, it gives you bonus "interview" time or sets you up to have someone who may provide positive feedback about you. It also provides both candidate and employer the opportunity to realize or determine that the interview might be a waste of everyone's time.
  14. Nope, it is not inappropriate. I always try to reach out to firms/organizations I'm applying to before I submit, or in tandem with, my application. Contact is essential for me. How you go about cold-contacting is the real question. Because while it isn't inappropriate, it could be seen as an annoyance for the receiver, which depends on where you're applying. I definitely wouldn't cold-call a random or partner in the practice area you're applying at a large busy firm in a big city. I'd cold-email an associate. Same goes for a government or large company. Don't start at the top. I'd also definitely think about whether I knew anyone there, or had a friend or relative who knew somebody there who could connect us (that, by the way, is one of the best reasons to grow your network: getting quick and painless connections as opposed to cold-calling can be very effective in the job hut). I might, however, cold email the name partner of a smaller boutique, sole, or small organization with a polite "Hi my name is such-and-such, I'm super interested in what you do and familiar with your work, and I'd love to find out more about the position posted in the OR today (or whathaveyou). Totally understand if you're busy and happy to be redirected to your associate, so-and-so, if she may be the ideal source of information about the role and your firm". (And be honest, or else become familiar with their work. Definitely never misrepresent your knowledge of someone's practice, or your legal interests/passion for that matter.) Write your email with a professional and respectful but affable tone. I've done this with great results. I've also done this and never heard back. Results vary. You can feel out in any case whether a call is better than an email. I tend to flipflop on which is better. When I'm on the receiving end, I cannot stand an email back-and-forth and scheduling (then the inevitable re-schedules because I'm always busy) of a quick informational chat about my firm or whatever else I get cold-emails about. Instead, I'm always happy to field a call, and if I'm busy I'll just say "call me back in like X minutes or tomorrow". But when I'm the sender, I never make cold-calls in advance of an email. Whatever you do, if you call, be prepared for that call with your questions and narrative. Good luck.
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