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  1. You'll be fine is that's all the firm could offer you.
  2. If you put that Tuesday top choice firm in the first slot on Tuesday morning, you should be fine.
  3. This^ When I was offered an interview by the Treasury Board Secretariat (a gov't entity), the person on the phone said to me straight up they don't mind me putting them on my last day because the interviews are all scored quantitively. Gov't also doesn't care about the first choice game either - because again, they rank everyone by a score and just call from the top down until they fill their slots.
  4. same principles apply. If your first interview with a firm is on day 3, you're telling them theyre also not high on your list. I've heard of firms cancelling day 3 first interviews with people to bring back people for further interviews.
  5. what did you write in your cover letter? why do you think you got selected for the interview? why count yourself out before you actually do the work?
  6. law school was one of the best time of my life.
  7. I just checked my articling recruit emails. Some of the entities listed in this thread did not reach out to confirm my dates and who I'd be meeting with until 10 days after call dates (pretty big firms too). I had over a dozen articling interviews, so it covers a pretty broad range of entities listed in this thread. Relax, if you've had a call with someone, you're on the list, and they will get to you shortly. If they don't and it makes you feel better, you can send a nudge next week, and it would be proper. Don't overthink it. Everything is going to be fine.
  8. I can personally attest that I have received calls without receiving ITCs. I also received a call as late as 2:00pm. There's no hard and fast rule with this process. However, generally speaking, the bulk of the calls will likely be settled within the first 30 minutes. So be hopeful, but don't be delusional. Just remember at the end of the day, It just takes one. So if you only have one interview, prepare the hell out of it. If you have no interviews, you still have a lot of time to secure something.
  9. Congratulations everyone! This is an exciting time. You guys got this far through covid. It's a great accomplishment. For those still waiting for their first ITC still; do not despair. Some firms do not send ITCs. And even if you don't land a job in the articling recruit, you're gonna be okay. There will still be opportunities to come. Everyone lands somewhere eventually. I didn't believe this before, but having gone through the process now, I believe it more than ever.
  10. Keep in mind different schools have different grading systems. As such, it's hard to state a hard and fast rule for what constitutes as passing the gpa threshold for interviews. You do your best, and see who gets back to you. At the end of the day, there's no point stressing about a GPA threshold anyway. Your grades will be what they are. You did or did not do your preparation for evaluation. Come the evaluation day, you either had a great day or didn't. After grades, what you can put effort into is editing and preparing your application. Write a good app. Proofread it five times. Do the simple stuff right. Spell the firm's name correctly. For example, there are two n's and two t's in for the Bennett in Bennett Jones. Miller Thompson might be a firm somewhere, but it's not the bay street national firm you are after (Miller Thomson). As someone on the other side, it actually shocks me how many people submit sloppy applications for what might be the biggest application of their career.
  11. I don't think the poster said s/he had the highest billables. Just the second highest collected based on the amount of flat fee matters undertaken I imagine. That said, i don't think the poster should conflate hours worked as necessarily being good at the task or even amount of files completed as being good at the task. Depending on lifestyle, (ie a strict 9 to 5), 75K is plenty fair. Wouild you really want an extra 10K if it meant you had to work 9-7 every day?
  12. without having been in the interview, sounds like you took it personal instead of taking those questions about your previous firm and spinning why it would apply to the next firm. For eg: how many hours my current firm expects me to bill per year My current firm has a billable target of 1200. What's yours here? 1300? That's great, I don't think that's materially different, you can expect me to work hard and eager to learn. what is the average caseload of an average lawyer at my firm I often had carriage of 8-10 matters on the go. I am very good at organizing and keeping on top of files. Recently, I worked on a case about bird law, and we really advocated for the trees. I learned all about the red maple. whether my current firm takes Legal Aid files I have experience working on legal aid files. I especially enjoyed knowing my work impacted the life of someone who really needed my legal help. But that's fine. Interviewing is chemistry. If you don't get this one, then move onto the next. Don't take it personally.
  13. just look at job postings. hiring is is strong.
  14. Your story about how you service big fish guy is awesome. If I may ask, how do you go about reeling in a big fish like that so early on in your career? Again, maybe I am still going through the shock of articling where I basically only learned that I know nothing so I can't imagine going out there and trying to provide legal advice within the next 24 months. I feel giving out bad/wrong legal advice is basically a disservice to the client and our legal profession at large. So I guess my question is - how did you convince Big Fish Guy to give you a chance? Why wouldn't he have gone to someone with a bit more seasoning under his/her belt? Maybe legal fees is one factor? I suppose more senior lawyers also don't or won't give him the same time of day you would in terms of responsiveness. But obviously I'm just spitballing and guessing, and would love to hear you talk about it if you don't mind.
  15. Wow the 2nd year part surprised me. As someone who just wrapped up articles, there's so much I KNOW that I don't know. I feel like even two years from now, I'd be afraid to go out and offer legal advice, let alone manage the the other facets of a solo practice. If you don't mind me asking, what convinced you that marinating for "only" two years in the legal field is enough to competently go out there and play lawyer. I was under the impression I probably needed to build a rolodex of clients and learn for a good five years before even thinking of such a move. Look forward to your thoughts!
  16. UofT just does things different because they're UofT. Even their grading is different. I say this as someone who was rejected by Western before getting in the next cycle. Like all of you, during my wait I tried to cling onto different explanations as to why my status hasn't changed. I kept calling admin frequently in June/July/August- so much so that Nanette knew me immediately by my voice and was able to tell me nothing has changed. I posted here for encouragement, and just focused on the messages saying "you never know", "maybe we'll get there". Perhaps COVID has changed the way at which admin does things, but I've had the luxury to look back on this process for the past four years now and the pattern is largely the same. If you havent heard back by now, you are likely rejected. Obviously, nothing is impossible, but at some point, it's better to work on your app for next cycle. Perhaps you need consider enrolling into another year of school before next semester's deadline if your GPA is borderline. Or if you're lucky to get another offer, jump on that if there's a deadline to accept. Western is probably not in the cards now.
  17. Applied = you're done. It's time to move forward and prepare for next cycle. Admin doesnt manually reject each one on a rolling basis. All the rejections will come at once.
  18. It's not having the study materials that makes you perform on the test; it's the making of the study materials.
  19. immediately went to lawandstyle announcements and couldn't find firms announcing partnerships around that time which match his description
  20. you can't instagram an archived stream to accumulate likes my friend
  21. You don't know me. But as the poster below you also noted, there's 1000+ law students coming through the system every year. To think that that any one articled student situation is so unique that it requires celebration is arrogant.
  22. It's not a coincidence that [your salary] divided by [your target] is exactly 40%. When you earn 45% of everything thereafter, you are essentially getting a 5% bonus. In a (small) firm environment, tying your compensation to how much work actually comes in and how much money is actually collected makes logical sense from a management perspective. The more important part is to ensure that there is no funny business in counting your hours (ie. if a Partner writes down hours on a file, how does it affect your target hours?)
  23. I also think yall at least 25 years old now. Like come on. Are you only a lawyer if you can post to the instragam a picture of you at a bar ceremony with the hastag #lawyered Blows my mind how many people are going bananas about potentially not receiving a bar ceremony.
  24. get a 160+ LSAT and you got a good shot everywhere in Ontario except UofT
  25. it goes by the day you instruct your bank. Doesn't matter when the money lands.
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