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  1. FWIW, people who take family law usually end up liking it, and I really liked real estate. You shouldn't dismiss a course just because it doesn't immediately strike you as "interesting".
  2. That is so sad. I can name a lot of people who have minimal time to meet people outside of work.
  3. Is office romance generally frowned upon? Even when it's between lawyers? or between a lawyer and a support staff who's not one's own assistant?
  4. A number of concepts were hard to understand, and even when you think you know it, the professor would combine them in different ways, forcing you to figure out how different concepts interact.
  5. Trust is not a hard course at all. Freedman gives you all the notes you'll need. Having said that, all your classmates will have the same notes and you'll still have to put in the effort if you want an A. Tax was, in my opinion, extremely conceptually challenging, even though it had way less reading than most of my other classes.
  6. a) Colloquially, at least at this moment, this seems to be true across the country. b) I didn't attend, but I hear that Osgoode really does in fact deliver when it comes to breadth of opportunities, from course selection, to clinics, to intensives, or other opportunities to gain practical experience. Can someone please confirm this?
  7. Going into specifics usually help build your argument.
  8. So you didn't find the article pertinent, relevant, and worthy of dissemination?
  9. Hi all, Please check out this very relevant and phenomenal article: http://precedentjd.com/news/will-ontario-overhaul-its-licensing-system/ So, which of the four options do you prefer?
  10. ^Bump. Because I think it's relevant again.
  11. Finally, there will likely be another wave of hiring in May-August, as many smaller firms and solo practioners cannot anticipate their needs in advance. If 2017-2018 was any indication, there will be a stream of positions advertised even after that. The hiring season is by no means over if that's what you're wondering.
  12. I've heard of Hicks Morley, Dutton Brock, Bank of Montreal, Sony, and BMW. There are small and medium firms on Bay street too, and they usually pay as well or almost as well as the big firms.
  13. Hi all, To give some background context, I'm one of those of people who didn't find an articling position until well into third year. I'd be lying if I pretended that doing an unpaid articling didn't cross my mind. Even though I looked up the LPP program and actually really liked the curriculum, mode of instruction, and placement rate, I was strongly dissuaded from pursuing the LPP by virtually everyone around me, and the main reason was, you guessed it, stigma. Fortunately, I eventually found a paid articling position, and thus was not required to make the choice. But one of my friends, with very similar background as myself, did end up doing the LPP, and guess what, while she didn't quite love it, it was appropriate for her situation, taught her a great deal, and brought her a job that not only she enjoys, but will be hiring her back. On the other hand, I've heard plenty of horror stories about unpaid articling placements. Stigma aside, I think there are many benefits of LPP that aren't acknowledged enough: you learn a wide range of skills from diverse practice areas you learn from top practioners the self-learning component allows you to hold another job while taking the course ($) Many bay street firms and top corporations offer placements It actually is possible to become a small town (or large city, if you're good at attracting clients) solo practioner post articling by going through the LPP, because they prepare you that well While it's true that many people still end up with unpaid positions (30%), it's only 4 months, and these placements have been vetted by the LPP program, and offers a generally more rewarding experience than something you might find on your own (which let's face it, can end up being anything) Finally, and this is somewhat politically incorrect to say, it seems that anecdotally, the paid articling positions tend to go to the Canadian educated JDs, while the unpaid positions tend to go to the NCAs. I was fortunately never in the position, but based on what I've heard and through my own research, I really do think that if you're a Canadian educated JD, and you don't have serious flaws in your application, or if you're a fairly competitive NCA, then it might be more worth it to do the LPP and hold out for a bay street or in-house job than to do unpaid articling. You also don't seem that much more screwed even if you don't. While the stigma is real, LPP seems to at least guarantee a decent chance of success upon completion, which cannot be said of unpaid articling, whose quality can vary. Albeit, I have a limited sample size.
  14. I want to emphasize again that Queen's students are friendly, polite, and generally do not flaunt their wealth or privilege. All the same, if you come from a humble background, you will find that there are little things, whether it's some random conversations or lifestyle choices that you will simply not relate to. No one tries to be exclusionary on purpose. Nonetheless, the disparity in privilege is something you can't help but notice, not that it's the fault of anyone in particular.
  15. I just graduated from Queen's this year and so I can do an updated list. 1. The overselling of practical experience opportunities. While Queen's has multiple clinics and participates in as many external mooting competitions as most law schools, the reality is I know several people who tried out for moots both in 2nd and 3rd year and was never selected for either, and the same goes for the clinics. Also, said people do not have bad grades, or lack social skills, or possess any discernible flaw that would lead you to think that they were unsuitable in any way. While I realize that this shouldn't technically be a flaw because these opportunities are competitive anyways, the bottom line is Queen's likes to highlight the practical experience part of the school and pretty much makes it seem as though the opportunity will be available to everyone who wants it. That is simply not the case. 2. Course scheduling severely limits options. Queen's has a tendency to put related courses in the same time block. For example, commercial law, competition law, and corporate finance all will be offered in the same timeslot next year. I have heard many complaints from people who intend to practice corporate law and want to take all three who now have to choose only one and hope scheduling works out next year. 3. Far too many useless emails. This may not seem like a big deal, but when you have to scan through dozens of pointless emails every day, it's easy to miss something actually important. 4. Career Office workshops have a clear elitist vibe, in that they are more focused on helping you choose amongst your multiple offers than helping you secure that one offer. In other words, it does feel as though the only people who actually benefit from most of their workshops are the people who don't even need them in the first place. 5. The student body also seems to have an elitist vibe, in that many of your peers have parents who are lawyers, or attended private schools, or otherwise come from privileged backgrounds. 6. This may not be a bad thing, but the school is slowly becoming more corporate-focused, in that most of the new course offerings are business law related, and the school was considering making business organizations available as a first-year course (which to me seemed like a good idea because more choices is always better), although that proposal ended up being rejected. 7. I didn't take it but the new first year Introduction to Legal Skills course received a lot of complaints both last year and this year for being both way too much work, and yet somehow still not being particularly useful. 8. Participation marks. A lot of classes have these. I don't mind them but I know a lot of people who do. 9. Public transportation is unreliable. Buses are frequently late and sometimes don't show up at all. 10. Poverty in the city is a real problem. You hear far too frequently about bikes and coats and all kinds of things being stolen. Finally, I want to address a common complaint I've heard about Queen's, which is that the school is cliquey. I am fairly introverted and I'm not a great conversationalist. Having said that, I have never felt excluded and have never had any problem finding people to spend time with. Like anything else, it is important to understand that making friends require an effort on your part too. Queen's students are the friendliest of any school I have ever been to, and I can honestly say that if someone feels excluded or lonely, it is probably because they never made enough effort in the first place.
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