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  1. Since I think it'll just keep coming up, my grades were almost all Bs, literally Bs. I didn't get a single B+ or B-. I also had a few As and a few Cs (3As, 2 C+s). Like I said though, grades are a moot point. Outside of formal postings, which is a minuscule amount of my job search, I haven't been asked for a transcript. I don't know what it is, bad luck? Sometimes that's what it feels like. I can tell you I have no personal connections in this industry. All my networking is cold calls and me hitting the pavement. In terms of interviewing I haven't had a formal interview since the formal recruit but at a coffee meetings I don't sense anything amiss. My mock interviews went well... if that means anything. I am a minority... but I've never gotten the impression that's an issue... I honestly don't know. Like I've said before, I really don't want to debate the hiring process. I guarantee whatever you say, I'll have heard it before from another lawyer. More looking to commensurate with anyone else in the same or similar situation.
  2. If I knew I'd likely not be in this position. Sorry, I'm reluctant to provide more details because I don't want to derail this question into a debate about the hiring process. Like I said, not the reason I started this topic.
  3. I graduated law school last year in spring 2016 and since then have failed in every way to find articles. The point of this topic isn't to debate what I'm doing right or wrong as I've tried basically everything. I know some people will still bring it up anyways so to just get it out there now, I've networked with hundreds of lawyers, small firms, big firms, sole practitioners, in-house counsel, I've done it. I've gone to CBA meetings, volunteered at legal clinics, talked to rural firms, applied across multiple provinces. I've expressed a specific interest in certain fields and aggressively networked in that field, you name it, I've done it. Basically the only thing I haven't done is the LPP, which I'm unable to currently pursue for financial reasons. Before people hammer me on my grades I can tell you I haven't been asked for a transcript since the formal recruit. Like I said, you name it, I've done it, that's not the point of this topic. I'm just wondering if there is anyone out there who is in the same boat? Almost all my classmates found articles, those who didn't went to the LPP, so I haven't discussed this with them. I'm currently feeling a new wave of despair as my old friends invite me to their bar calls and firm receptions to celebrate "how they made it." My self-esteem is at an all time low and I'm wrestling with depression every day. It's hard not to feel worthless. So I'm wondering how people dealt with that more specifically, the feeling of constant rejection/failure? Thank-you. Edit: One thing I forgot to add, one of the worst things is people constantly underestimate how hard this has been. Everyone just assumes that because I have higher level education, "things will work eventually!" Well it sure doesn't feel like it. Now that I'm trying to find jobs in other industries, I get hammered and screened out because everyone is afraid I will run back to the law at the first chance. It feels like this degree is an anchor weighing me down.
  4. This might be crossing the line on legal advice and if so please feel free to lock. To begin, this is just a hypothetical question, I'm only a 2L and am not even employed with a law firm yet. I was talking with some fellow classmates this afternoon and one of them was complaining about the terrible customer service experience they had received at a retailer. They started joking about how once they were called and working at a law firm, they would use the firms letterhead when mailing in a complaint so as to give it more "clout". Now I have to imagine the firm wouldn't look too highly on this, it seems like thinly veiled misrepresentation that the firm itself would take action in the complaint, no? Just wondering some thoughts from actual lawyers.
  5. Red Arrow is more "premium" compared to greyhound so it's going to be a lot more expensive. Red Arrow however does operate a discount line under the name ebus and the prices for them are much cheaper. The thing I've noticed with Greyhound is you have to book like weeks in advance in order to get the cheap fares, if you wait until even a week before when you want to travel, the price jumps up significantly. Overall though, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't someone driving their own vehicle up that wouldn't mind splitting the cost of gas. Well given what efi said above it seems to be at the discretion of the faculty. I can tell you my government loans were exactly 13 000 (a little less than half coming from the Ontario government, not sure if that matters) and I was denied.
  6. Oh if you have first hand knowledge that's even better. I'm just going off of what the admin office told me after I was denied the bursary last year. Sufficied to say, there's no harm in applying, the worst that can happen is they'll say no.
  7. UofC uses examsoft, I've only used it on a Mac but I know people who were able to run it on Windows 7/Vista. I can't recall seeing anyone use it on Windows 8, but a quick glance of their webpage says that examsoft does support Windows 8 as well. The differential tuition bursary is not guaranteed. In order to qualify for it you have to have a minimum of $20 000 in outstanding government student loans. This means a line of credit from a bank will not count towards the $20 000 threshold. Beyond the minimum of $20k, I'm not sure if there are additional requirements or not. I do know however that current year loans do not factor into the calculation of the $20 000. So any loans you get this year from the government will not be counted towards the $20 000; the 20 000 only includes loans from previous years. If you do qualify, then yes it is in the amount of $5000 and it goes automatically towards tuition.
  8. I will add, on the topic of missing classes, last year there were changes implemented to two courses where there had been a large amount of skipping in the past. These changes make it so skipping is not really possible in these classes. Legal Perspectives, for the first time last year, had a 10% participation component factored into the mark. How each professor marks that component was up to them. I had Tingle and he didn't do anything specific with regards to taking attendance or calling on people. However, I did hear that one of the other sections had mandatory discussants assigned to each particular class. I'm sure missing one or two classes would be completely fine but obviously missing weeks on end would not be advisable as that's an easy 10% that can have a huge impact especially when the class is so tightly grouped around the B median. FLS. For the most part, FLS in the fall is completely skippable, up to you. In the winter however, the class is largely unskippable because they've made it so the assignments are due at the end of every lecture. Basically in the winter, you learn some basic legal research skills; the first portion of the class is the lecture explaining the material and then there is 20-30 minutes left at the end of each class for people to work on the assignment and ask questions. The assignment is due at the end of every lecture. Sometimes there will be an extension if not enough work time was provided in the class (if the lecture went long) but obviously you would need to attend in order to know that. That being said, the assignments themselves are relatively simple so if you really wanted to skip it would probably be possible and you could just make sure to time it so that you submit the assignment at the time the lecture is scheduled to end. However, it is not possible to complete the assignment in advance as they don't post it online until the in class work time is scheduled to begin. Lastly I'll also add in general that this year looks to be a bad year to miss classes in a couple of courses due to the recent Tsilhqot'in decision from the SCC. That decision makes the aboriginal portion of old property/constitution CANs largely useless and they should not be relied upon. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if constitution next year included references to the Bedford decision as well as the Supreme Court Act Reference, both of which would not be in any old CANs. LAP might also include material related to the Supreme Court Act Reference.
  9. 5 mins?! How fast do you walk?! I remember running one time because I was late for class and only then was I able to make it in about 5 mins. This was full on sprinting.
  10. Totally restless at the moment and felt like finally creating one of these for UofC. I'll preface this by saying I'm absolutely satisfied with UofC as a law school and recommend it to anyone. However, like any school, there are drawbacks so here's 10 reasons why, if you're on the fence, you might choose not to go to UofC (in no particular order). 1) Terrible and I mean TERRIBLE university email. The email the UofC provides for students is straight out of the 90s. 20 or 30 emails and you've already used up 10-20% of your storage space. Writing a long email? Well I hope you saved it in Word because chances are, by the time you push send, the email server has timed out and logged you out and all the words you just typed are gone. Receiving emails with pictures or signatures in the body of the email? Enjoy looking at a block of squares and squiggly lines instead. I could go on and on about how terrible the email is. 2) Horrible wi-fi connection. Perhaps this might be a blessing in the classroom as there are less distractions. However, if you're trying to connect to do some studying in the library or something, well good luck. You'll probably spend 5-10 minutes fiddling around trying to get the connection to work. When it does work enjoy the snail's pace internet you get that disconnects you every 15-20 mins. The connection is much more stable in TFDL but unfortunately the same cannot be said about the law building. 3) No post office on campus. I know lots of people don't care about the mail anymore but I personally still write letters and send/receive packages. You also need one to send out your student loans! Not having a post office on campus was a shock to me as the previous universities I had been too both had one. 4) Minimal food/drink options near the law building. There is a "Tim Hortons" in the law building but it is terrible. It's one of those 3rd party Tim Horton's that have bought the license to be able to sell Tim Horton's products but is not actually a Tim Horton's franchise. As such you'll get huge variety in the quality of the product ranging from acceptable to down right disguisting. Not to mention the lines are absolutely unbearable; typical lines take 15 - 20 mins. However, there is a Good Earth in TFDL (just across from the law building) which is somewhat better (but also more expensive). Additionally, a coffee machine was installed in the student lounge. The machine charges less than Tim Hortons but, I've personally noticed the drinks are "tainted" with the taste of whichever drink was previously made. 5) Block Week. Argh. Block week takes place in the very first week of January, literally the day after New Years. It shortens Christmas break by 1 week and pretty much ruins any possibility of taking an a trip anywhere on an extended winter vacation. Also, at least for 1L, the material is mind numbingly boring. It's not the fault of the instructor (1L last year was taught by Liz Whitsitt) who did the best she could. The material is just really dry and having the entire 1L class in 1 huge lecture hall does not create an efficient environment for learning. People were falling asleep left and right in my year. 6) Legal perspectives. Not sure if there is an equivalent course at other univerisities but at UofC, LP is a mandatory course which is basically a philosophy course based around different legal theories. You learn about natural law, feminist law, law and economics, critical race theory, and more. This course, at least none that I could see, has no practical benefit. It is literally a philosophy course where students got to debate the merits of different legal theories. I thought it was a giant waste of time. 7) No streamlined, central area for sharing and downloading CANs. I see a lot of other law schools have a central database where all CANs are available for downloading and sharing that can be accessed from anywhere. UofC has nothing like that. There are plenty of CANs available, the only thing is you have to ask people one at a time, it's more difficult to know which CANs are useful or not. The only way to share CANs is through email, sharing them on thumbdrives, facebook, whatever, basically individual transfer methods. A couple of students have set up drop box accounts where you're able to download their personal CANs and that's great but it's still only a single resource. There is no central area for everyone to share CANs with everyone else. 8) Old/broken furniture in the Law Library. The majority of chairs in the law library have a permanent butt imprint where the cushion is completely pressed down and it feels like you're sitting on a board. Either that or the sitching is ripped open and all the sponge in the cushion is sticking out. TFDL was constructed recently and the furniture there is practically all brand new so it is much more comfortable. However, all the other faculties know this as well so it's fairly difficult to get a study area unless you're there early. 9) Terribly ugly campus. The older buildings on campus came straight out of the 70s; old, ugly concrete buildings with stained, multicolour glass windows. Murray Fraser Hall however, (the law building) is quite nice and it's where law students spend 99% of their time anyways. 10) Kind of an extension of #9 but horrible planning in the campus design. It seems like there was no concrete plan created when UofC was constructed and everything was just plopped down and built wherever there was room. The campus has a pretty big problem with sprawl where faculty buildings are spread all across the campus on opposite ends and then random parking garages constructed in the middle. This creates a lot of vehicle traffic in the middle of campus. Additionally, the train station for the university is not on campus, it is adjacent to campus. Murray Fraser Hall is one of the closerish buildings to the train station and it is still a solid 15 minute walk away. I can't even imagine how painful the walk is for engineering students especially in the winter time. As I said above, I had a great experience in my first year and I'd recommend UofC to anyone. You'll notice that most of my above reasons relate more to general UofC problems rather than law specific issues. The majority of the professors, courses are great.
  11. Yes they are quite rare. It's not overly difficult to get an interview, as long as you have at least average marks you should be able to get a couple interviews. The actual positions however are quite few. As such, don't feel bad if you fail to get a 1L job. There are so few positions and so many applicants that the vast majority of people will not land one.
  12. As far as I know that is still the recruitment period/process for 1L summer positions. I haven't received an email to the contrary and I'd be very very surprised if, after all the work they did to change the recruitment period to spring, they switched it back to the fall. Regardless, you will find out once you receive your admissions package from UofC. Hireback for 2L summer positions would depend on if you do a good job or not during the 1L summer position. Obviously the firm would prefer to bring you back as they've invested resources into you but if you do a truly terrible job, then they won't hire you back. There is continuity from 1L summer to 2L summer to articling to associate but it all depends on a combination of how well you perform as well as the business the firm brings in. The best you can do is do the best you can marks wise and do the best job possible if you happen to get one of the few 1L jobs. I'm not working a 1L summer firm job right now so I can't speak to the salary.
  13. In addition to what harveydent has said, the first year is definitely the year you'll feel most like a student. In first year your schedule is completely set in stone for you, you have no choice in what times your classes are and what courses you can take. Don't like criminal law? Too bad, you're enrolled in that. Don't get me wrong, it is valuable to learn all the foundational classes, especially if you're not sure what practice area you want to be involved with; it gives you perspective on a variety of different fields. However, it definitely feels like a bit of a grind when you're forced to take material you have no interest in. I'm entering 2L so I don't know what the experience is in upper years yet, but at the very least, once you reach 2nd and 3rd year, while there are still some mandatory classes, you have much more flexibility in the courses you want to take and when to take them.
  14. Ah, if you're looking for only an 8 month rent I don't think you'll find one outside of res on campus at either UofC or SAIT. Landlords generally don't want to have to deal with leases shorter than a year as they'll have a gap in the summer that they'll have to deal with. It doesn't hurt to ask of course but I think it'll be a tough sell to get a landlord to agree. If you don't mind roughing it for the first week or so, I know last year Target had an awesome "back to school" sale that was aimed at people staying in residence. It was a great way to pick up liens/cutlery and other items. I know it sounds tough but it becomes a lot easier once you're actually in Calgary.
  15. Besides location, what are your preferences in regards to funishings and move in date? For $900 it is definitely possible to find an unfurnished suite in a decent location. However, if you need a furnished place it is highly unlikely you will find one for that cheap. When I was looking for bachelor apartments last year, every single furnished suite was at least $1100 and those were few and far between. If furnishings are a must and you're unable to budge on the price, I'd recommend trying to rent something along the lines of a basement with a seperate entrance. I haven't looked recently, but last year there were many such openings. They'll technically be shared accomodations obviously, but with a seperate entrance you really wouldn't have to interact with your upstairs neighbours. Pretty much all basement suites have their own shower and many have their own small kitchen. Otherwise, if you're completely set on a bachelor suite in an apartment, that is furnished, it will be tough. You would have to get extremely lucky to find something sub $1000 that is furnished. Additionally, for your move in date, the best time to look is at the very end/start of a month because that is when people give notice to their landlords. There will be more competition for suites in August because that is when all students are competing for September rentals. If possible, it would be better to try and get a place in July as there will be less competition.
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