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  1. Live and learn is a very common saying and is not from a tort case. You have no idea that you would have gotten a better grade in that class had you devoted a different amount to studying for that exam. You may very well have received the same grade. @Diplock is a poster on this forum who doesn't mince words and has a knack for putting people in their place in a manner that is entertaining for everyone.
  2. Of course we don't know. But we do know that if you went to another school, you may not get better grades at all. And even if you did, Bay Street firms may or may not go deeper into the UofT class, rendering your better grades irrelevant. Even if they don't prefer UofT, I think that we can be pretty confident that they don't prefer other schools, despite your insistence on repeatedly citing the irrelevant Faskens example. Again, it would be foolish to sacrifice an entire year of law school (and the associated tuition) on the basis of these hypotheticals.
  3. Again, you are talking about one firm in one year with a very small sample size, which means nothing. Who knows what happened at Fasken? Possibly just a fluke that they liked candidates from other schools. Possibly their top UofT choices accepted offers at other firms. We will never know. But it is completely ridiculous for you to consider starting afresh or quitting on the basis of these types of statistics. If you are so caught up on prestige, that's on you. Others don't care. And why would you possibly care about global prestige? That has nothing to do with your employment prospects. Do we know for a fact that firms don't interview more students from some schools than others? If not, then you aren't really competing with people from your school in the way that you suggest. Also, even if you are competing with students from your school for interview slots, you are definitely not competing with just them for job offers.
  4. Huh? None of this makes sense. You can't claim that "UofT can't [sic] even send 1/2 of its students" without knowing how many people applied. Also, since when is Bay Street hiring the only mark of a leading law school? I'm also not sure why you are getting upset about this now. All of this information was freely available before you attended law school. Caveat emptor.
  5. Starting afresh at another school on the assumption that you would get better grades and thus have better job prospects would be truly stupid. Leaving the profession entirely isn't something that people can answer for you. As for your "as I said earlier", this conversation would be much easier to follow if you hadn't spread it across multiple threads. They don't have the same class sizes. Around 210 versus around 290 last time I heard. How many of those students applied for jobs is also relevant. Huh? No, for OCIs you aren't only competing against others from your school. That doesn't make sense. Your examples of single law firms in single years mean nothing at all. I'm sure that in other years those numbers were completely different. It is way too small a sample size to draw any conclusions from. To echo the previous poster, no one cares about worldwide prestige.
  6. Admissions or hiring? I think that you mean hiring. You are wrong. Those numbers don't necessarily mean that firms are just as willing to hire Osgoode students. Let's say that a firm has 100 Osgoode applications and 50 UofT applications and hires 5 students from each school. Are you trying to tell me that those two things are equal? Even if you were correct, all of this is not the point anyway. You may do better at Osgoode you may not, making this hypothetical boost in grades a ridiculous reason to transfer. Also, I doubt Osgoode would let you transfer at this point anyway.
  7. If you are looking at actual numbers rather than percentages, this doesn't mean much since Osgoode has more students. You also may not get better marks at Osgoode, which has an arguably harsher curve than UofT. Also, have you considered the fact that you likely won't be able to transfer at this point? At least at my school and one other that I know of, all of the transfer decisions are made. I expect that other schools would be the same.
  8. This means nothing. This has nothing whatsoever to do with your prospects of getting a job as a summer student in the future or as an articling student.
  9. Professors do take grades into account in deciding RAships at basically every school. However, they don't necessarily hire the person with the very best grades and, given that there aren't an infinite number of RA positions, not getting one isn't indicative of much at all. Maybe it went to someone with better grades or maybe it went to someone with the exact same grade that the professor had a connection with or who had done undergraduate work in an area related to a professor's research. Again, this really isn't something to get so freaked out about.
  10. The competition is only stronger insofar as undergrad grades are a good predictor of law school grades ("good" is, of course, a vague term and you can look at the actual studies that try to quantify this). The two are not unrelated, but I wouldn't say it is a good predictor. The grading system is also different at other schools, where the vast number of students receive Bs and you may very well too. The courses aren't harder at UofT. They are basically identical in terms of content. It does answer the question if you draw the natural conclusion from my comments. If the reason that you want to leave is because you think you will get better grades elsewhere, this may very well not be the case, so there is no point in leaving on this basis.
  11. You need to chill out. I will let others advise on the career stuff, but you won't necessarily get better grades at another school. You will probably just get a bunch of Bs just like most other people.
  12. No one (in Canadian academia) cares where you do your JD.
  13. What is being described is similar to what happens at all of the schools I worked at. Whenever a student didn't get the checkmark at the end of the exam, I took them to someone designated to deal with such things/the designated person came to the exam room.
  14. When I was in law school, I drank it as fast as I bought it. No need for a rack.
  15. Don't take GPA boosting courses online from places such as Athabasca "University". Any courses that you take from a more well regarded university are fine.
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