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Everything posted by Turkeytime

  1. You'd be surprised - there are people who excel in law school because they find it's their "thing". They really enjoy the law and study hard. Don't let the supposed difficulty of the school deter you.
  2. You can go to UBC and get jobs in Toronto, or go to Osgoode/Queen's and get a job in BC. That being said, it is easier to network when you are studying in the City where you want to work. If you're in BC, you can't ask a lawyer in Toronto to go for coffee.
  3. At this point, I think you should take some time to reflect on why you want to go to law school. Is it because it's prestigious? It's a guarantee of wealth? It will bring you happiness? There is no guarantee that being a lawyer will bring you the type of life that you want. If you get into law school, that's great. But if you don't, that doesn't mean your life is a failure. It's simply a different path forward. You can try to apply again, or you can choose to do something else. There are people in the trades who make more than lawyers. There are lawyers who are absolutely miserable and wish they had done something else. There are also lawyers who are fabulously wealthy and love their jobs. It's what you make of it. While you wait, I suggest you come up with a back up plan, just in case. You will feel more at ease knowing that you are still working towards a goal. Keep your options open - law school isn't the be all and end all.
  4. Hi all - Saw this job posting and thought it could help someone out. It's for a 2019-2020 articling position starting in July 2019. The closing date is March 25, 2019. https://ottawa.ca/cgi-bin/jobs.pl?id=2019-EX-EN-52467088-01 Good luck!
  5. Also this website: http://apt613.ca/
  6. The bar exam materials are not very accessible, regardless of whether or not you prefer learning through reading. I hope that alleviates some of your worries. The fact that you feel like you haven't retained anything other than general principles is normal. All my friends felt the same way. The key to this exam is knowing where to find the answers in the materials, which means having a good index, which ultimately means you need to be very familiar with your index and how it works. If you prefer not to use an index, you must come up with some method for quickly and efficiently finding the answers to the questions in the materials. To answer your questions: 1) No, you do not need to read the materials a second time. I'm not saying you shouldn't read the materials. I know some people who did and some people who didn't. Both passed. 2) To squish your two questions into one answer, the fact that you cannot answer the questions within the allotted time means it's absolutely crucial that you focus on developing a strategy for finding the answers quickly in the materials. Time is a key factor in the bar exam. When I studied for the bar exam, I had around five or six practice exams. I went through two practice exams untimed. I wanted to use that opportunity to familiarize myself with my index. Then I timed the other exams. 3) It depends on what works best for your brain. I only used the index, bar materials, and my own table of contents that I created. Other people brought in charts with them because they found it helped them find the answers faster.
  7. I volunteered at CLASP and OBC. I almost got no work with OBC because the upper years are given the tasks and then they delegate to the first years. I think that may have changed but I'm not sure. At CLASP, you do intake, which means you answer the phone and take down the caller's information so someone else can later assess what sort of legal help they will need. Not sure what people did as volunteers at Parkdale.
  8. Would this advice still apply to someone who's a new call? My fear is that I'll go into a new area of law, there'll be little to no mentorship or support, and then I'll start screwing up without even realizing it.
  9. Like, don't wear a tie. If you want to be fancy, you can wear some sort of casual blazer + collared shirt.
  10. First of all, I agree with Hegdis, just take the summer to chill, relax, and have fun. Law school can be stressful, anxiety-provoking, and challenging, so might as well enjoy your life before you jump into the deep end. At the risk of derailing the thread, to seriously answer your question, yes there were books that helped my understanding. But I DID NOT READ THEM DURING THE SUMMER (and neither should you). Irwin's law books can help when you don't understand what's happening in class. Hogg's constitutional law book was also very helpful in first year. To be fair, having a basic understanding of the court system will be useful to know before you start class. But ... there are students in law school who are just naturally more inclined to understanding the law. The best you can do for yourself is to study hard, speak to upper years/your buddies, and then try your best to stay positive and remain confident.
  11. From what I recall it's "casual " ... except that everyone dressed up a little bit. So somewhere between business casual and casual?
  12. I think this will depend largely on what you intend to accomplish by going to law school. If your baseline is getting a fulfilling and challenging job, you should still go. From what I've seen, there are legal jobs out there that don't require much interaction with other people. As a previous poster said, litigation won't be for you, but I can imagine you could do something in government that requires in-depth knowledge of a piece of legislation.
  13. At least from my experience, open houses are purely for getting a feel of the firm's culture. (Aside: Students throw around these vague terms like "culture" and "fit". I remember thinking I just needed a job and I didn't care at all about whatever "fit" was supposed to mean. It's important! You want to be happy, or least, content, in a job? Don't work in a place where everyone is quiet and keeps to themselves if you're a really outgoing person and vice versa.
  14. For the most part, I agree with Dreamer89, except that if you are dead set on working in one of the big firms on Bay, make sure to get a 2L summer position. Typically, the firms hire the summer students as their articling students, and then articling students get hired as associates. To improve your chances, focus on bringing up your grades, apply widely and network. That being said, there are reputable firms that don't participate in the formal hiring process. If there's a particular area of law that interests you, don't be shy to cold call lawyers and ask them to go for coffee to learn more about what they do. EDIT: Saw your response. Try not to think about what the firms will and won't do when they look at applications. It's a black box. Law students start speculating about what happens in the firms and things get out of hand. Instead, focus on the things that are within your control and try to forget about everything else. The stress will eat you up.
  15. The person I know focused less on building summaries and instead did tons of old exams. Obviously, that strategy doesn't work so well if there aren't any old exams available.
  16. Just came across this in case anyone is interested: Ecojustice articling positions in Toronto, Vancouver, and Ottawa https://ecojustice.applicantpro.com/jobs/
  17. Aren't you also here...? I mean, weren't you checking the board in 2010?
  18. One of my friends always wrote out "canned" answers before his exams and he got stellar grades. That being said, I think he just had a brain that was well suited for law and would do well regardless of whether or not he had a canned answer. But yeah, this is an oversimplification of how law exams work. I've done well on exams where I didn't study much, and poorly on exams where I poured my heart and soul into the class. For any 1L that ends up reading this, that's not to say you shouldn't bother trying. That's not my point. I'm just saying it's not that simple and to be honest, sometimes it isn't fair. But you should still work your ass off. Work ethic will take you a long way. (EDIT: There are a ton of posts from older and more experienced people on the board who have said something similar to me. It feels weird repeating what they said because I didn't believe them when I was in law school. But it's true and it's true for everything you do in life - sometimes it isn't fair. BUT KEEP TRYING DAMMIT.)
  19. Late to the game, but I thought I might add this article from Precedent: http://lawandstyle.ca/law/cover-story-the-mental-health-crisis-in-law/
  20. Personally, I don't think you need to take a bar prep course to pass the exam. In my circle of friends, no one took a bar prep course (we all studied together) and we all passed.
  21. I'm looking to buy legal robes - please PM me!
  22. That was an interesting experience. Fingers crossed I never have to do it again :/
  23. Canadian Constitutional Law - fourth edition Public Law - second edition 2015 Martin's Annual Criminal Code The Comprehensive Guide to Legal Research, Writing, and Analysis (1 and 2) Hovius on Family Law - Eighth Edition The Law School Book Message me for deets.
  24. Honestly, let it come naturally. Don't force yourself to interact with any upper years! We can tell if you're only talking to us for our summaries if you get involved in ECs, like clubs, intensives, mock trial, etc, you will definitely make friends with upper years. They are an invaluable source of information but as purplehibiscus said, take their advice with a grain of salt. I had one upper year who implied that I was making the wrong decision with my life ... except we had very different visions of the "good life"
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