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  1. leafs_law

    Gender Stereotypes on Bay Street in 2018

    I totally agree and I just wish the contemporary discourse would reflect this. Instead, it’s almost socially unacceptable for men to complain about the issues that we face.
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    Effective Rate

    I think it’s reasonable throughout but will defer to others for later years. It’s been about my ratio for my first few years.
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    Gender Stereotypes on Bay Street in 2018

    I’m sorry. And I do have to apologize in advance. Because there are a lot of women defending their privilege here and, to be honest, I think it comes from a place of self entitlement. I think most of us can agree that raising a child is one of the most emotionally fulfilling endeavors that a human can experience. And we can probably also agree that it’s entirely normalized for a woman to take time off work to do that, and to be paid for it. Find me someone who would prefer to work than raise their child in the first year of that child’s life and I’ll show you someone well outside the norms of human experience. And I’m not saying it’s not penalized to take that time. But I would argue that it’s not equally penalized. Because it’s not normalized for men to take the same time that women . And, in fact, if men take the same amount of time off as their wife, or god forbid take more time, they are subject to additional stigma. Few firms look to accommodate that man like they would a woman. So, men are, disproportionately, missing out on a break from the grind and one of the most self-realizing and satisfying things one can experience. But, also, firms only decide how far to accommodate parents who decide to take time off. And society in general decides very little of individual circumstances. It is families that decide who takes that time off, whether the mother or father. So, if the father, or anyone else in your family, pressures you, as a woman, to be the one to take that time off, that is a discussion to have with them. It is a family issue. I am not sure about other firms but, at mine, men are paid far less than women if they elect to be the one to stay home. Also, I really haven’t seen much overt discrimination against women in any of the firms that I’ve worked in. In fact, I’ve found it’s more likely for women to make partner now, if they decide to stick around as long as their male colleagues. At this point, it might now surprise you that I am one of those guys who gets along much better with women than I do with other men. I would say that maybe 75% of my friends are female. And I’m probably making this argument because I would legitimately want to take years out of my career to raise my children, when I have them. But I feel like I can’t. I likely won’t be able to tell my future wife to go back to work earlier than me and I likely won’t be able to tell my firm to offer me the same amount of leave as if I were a women I can confirm that the majority of my female lawyer friends have already transitioned to in-house roles. That was, for many of them, after their firm made significant efforts to convince them to stay. But, the fact is, they didn’t have to stay. And they didn’t want to. Because they could switch from 80 hours a week to 50. And they had spouses who were taught at a young age that they should be the one to support their partner, to work harder than their partner and to contribute more than their partner, financially. Those women weren’t socially conditioned to have their income and hours of work constitute a huge portion of their self-worth. And that is, maybe, why men stay in big law, despite hating it, despite the personal sacrifices they makes for working such long hours, and despite their disproportionate affliction of mental health issues, including substance abuse and suicide.
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    Effective Rate

    I think 60-75% is a good ratio. If you’re above or below that it could be indicative of different problems (either you’re not adequately capturing your time, you’re doing too much non-billable or you’re over-capturing your time). Unless you’re in court, you shouldn’t realize 100%. Edit: I will say that solicitor practice ratios are higher than barrister. My transactions colleagues (purchase and sale of business) are likely closer to 80% or above, but sometimes they have nothing to do at all.
  5. Yeah, I agree with you and pzab on this point.
  6. The answer to this question very much depends on where you work. My firm’s management actively wants to portray a feminist image and advocates for more women in law and on boards. We have an initiative for placing our female lawyers on boards, but not the males. I’d say a feminist focus is true of many of the bigger firms now - it’s very en vogue. So, coming out publicly to not support those values - probably a career limiting move. Despite that, I wouldn’t say that lawyers individually are overly feminist. And I see much of the critique of contemporary feminism coming from my female colleagues. From a general standpoint on feminism. I do think we need to take away its silver bullet. That is, validating every practice of the contemporary feminist movement with traditional feminism’s underlying principle of equality between men and women. The dangerous corollary is that those who oppose any feminist initiative therefore do not support equal rights (the silver bullet - the straw man). I think we can give most critics a little more credit, in that they likely oppose current practices in “feminism” rather than the pure underlying principle that men and women ought to enjoy equal rights and opportunities.
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    2017 Associate Salary Bump (Toronto)

    My understanding is that it’s extremely variable and generally the increases are less, as a percentage, unless you’ve ramped up your business development. In my experience, senior associates seem to be frustrated by it, generally see the off-gridding as a way to give smaller increases, and have trouble figuring out where they stand relative to their peers (because there are so few left in similar circumstances).
  8. It was May after undergrad. I was in Naples on my first trip overseas. I couldn’t celebrate because my then gf, who I was traveling with (and later broke up with during that trip), hadn’t gotten into any law schools yet (and never would). But I remember the feeling. It was pure euphoria - all of the anxiety and uncertainty just melted away and exposed a contentment that, at least for a few months, I was in the exact career position that I had always hoped for. If I had a choice between that feeling of acceptance or the high of great ecstasy, I’d choose getting into law school a fair amount of the time.
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    Good Problem to have... but looking for honest opinion

    My info might be out of date. I did this before they added the extra day etc. Was Maybe 4-5 years ago. Will defer to those who have gone through the process more recently.
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    Good Problem to have... but looking for honest opinion

    I’d do all of them. It gives you more chances and they’re all about the same anyway, so the first few can be practice. I did somewhere between 10 and 20 and didn’t find it difficult. You’ll regret not doing more if you mess up on a few of them and end up with 0-4 in-firms instead of 6. Realistically there’s not much you can do to prepare for them. Just write down a few bullets to refer to right before and that’s really all you need. A longer bathroom break here and there won’t help any.
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    Professional Corporations

    What have you found are the advantages and disadvantages? From my research, it seems to make sense for most firms. I would like to professionally incorporate as an associate, but I doubt that my firm would let me. Has anyone had experience with that?
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    Articling options under consideration

    I suspect, requiring law firms to pay the minimum wage will, for the most part, take away the choice of students to article for less than minimum wage but will not get law firms to increase their wage to the minimum.
  13. I agree with this. Yeah, it’s nice to talk to someone who’s into the same things, but it’s also interesting to hear about someone’s passions that you haven’t tried yet. Also, to a point from another poster before, I don’t know if we can call #immigrantproblems racism... immigrants are made up of all races. I’m also a bit surprised about all of the comments with respect to minority disadvantage in the hiring process in 2L. I’ve only worked at large firms, but we pass over objectively better candidates (grades, experience) to try to get visible minorities hired, and it’s not easy because the big firms fight over them. It’s overall, a good initiative, imo.
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    Ryerson Admissions

    I would probably go to Ryerson over Windsor or Lakehead. Just because of location. I think it will likely be an excellent school, though probably lacking in career development and certainly lacking in alumni network. If I were a professor at a school in a smaller market I would strongly consider moving to Ryerson, to be in Toronto. And, as a practitioner, I would be happy to take the two stop subway ride from Bay Street to teach a course.
  15. I disagree with this. I frequently warn people away from law, despite loving my job. In my experience, it is true that most students do not know what a career in law is going to be like. They think it’s like suits where you do criminal one day and corporate the next. They think it’s a magical ticket to a lifetime of wealth. They don’t realize the time commitment that is generally required. They don’t consider the costs of exorbitant tuition and lost opportunity. They don’t realize the stresses and responsibilities and the tedious tasks that come with the interesting ones. So, I’ll tell them about as much of that as I can. Then I’ll tell them about why I like the job and why I think I’ll never leave it. I’ll tell them that I make a good wage. But then I have to hammer-in my point that I’m in the minority... because I am. And the more I hear from undergrads, the more it becomes my responsibility to push them to not consider law. Someone who wants to be a wealthy and famous criminal lawyer, or work for the UN on human rights missions, or even Bay Street or bust types. If that’s all that will make you happy, you should be told that the chances are slim.