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  1. Can't say I have ever been a full prof - but I've taught a course or two in my time. And I have lawyered for a great deal of time and this statement rings true. Mostly because if someone is so passionate about something that they would dedicate however many thousands of hours to its study, so good at something that others are willing to pay so that that person will come to a better understanding of that thing..... maybe that is their role in life. What is it about law that makes everyone think it will be soooo amazing? Look I like my job, but there is rarely a gathering of older fogies of the profession (when the youngen's aren't around) that doesn't at some time include a discussion of some peer who made his or her "great escape" and is now "living the life". - you know farming goats, bar in the Caribbean... dog catcher. Could be that this is true for all professions, but my wife is in medicine and you never hear her colleagues pining for escape (again maybe they only do it in their closed circle).
  2. That's fine, so you should they don't make 'em like her anymore, - but when you go to Aunt Matilda's second funeral (again) - frown
  3. No, Maybe, Sometimes. If you call it a mental health day - frown. If you request it the day before a big closing/trial commencement/project due date - frown If you just take it the morning after a student dinner (*you know 'cause the drinking) - frown. If you ask for it so you can attend your Aunt Matilda's funeral, again - frown. If you want to attend your cousin's wedding in August and you ask for it in May- smiles. If you are speaking to a seminar of billionaires - SMILES.
  4. If you are so passionate about your MA thing... why go to law school? Make the thing your job, sounds like you are good at it, people seem to want you to write about it.. etc. I know you said the law and the thing are related but doing a thing and doing the "law of the thing" are very different despite what ever the entertainment law bar will tell you. (just ask that lawyer who identifies as a "porn lawyer"*) * do not search google for him at work
  5. I've lost a few days here and there - never a year though. ...easing up on the alcohol helped.
  6. I am with Orches on this one. You may end up back at the bank - but what do you really have to lose? In the grand scheme of things 4ish years of your life is a blink of an eye. Does it make financial sense? No, probably not, but not every life choice does (*cough* kids *cough*)
  7. In my other life I work in emergency management (part of trying to stay healthy eh!) That is one area where i have seen a real shift in perspective around mental health. It still needs work, don't get me wrong, but the change from - oh if you can't handle a little blood and guts this isn't for you, and "drink it off" to today's debriefs, mental resiliency training and proactive approaches is night and day. The legal profession has been talking about this in the corners and around the periphery for too long in my opinion. We still hold up as pillars people who are living really unhealthy lives. We still don't take care of people that deal with just totally horrible situations on a daily basis. I did one child porn case when I was just starting out and still get actual physical symptoms when I think about it. How legal professionals (defense, crown or judge) go though some of the child abuse trials that you hear about without some level of assistance is beyond me. I really hope they get the help they need. As a first-responder, if I go to an incident where someone is stabbed. I will likely go back to the hall, fill out a form (I know weird eh - but PTSD is cumulative- so we want to make sure we are tracking exposure), I will do a debrief with my crew, if we have any issues/symptoms we can take it up the chain and professionals will be brought in. We then talk about healthy approaches to what we have dealt with- exercise to help flush adrenaline, mindfulness, talking with our team) we will be reminded of the symptoms of PTSD, our family are invited to talk to our mental health practitioners and most importantly we commit to watching out for each other. The defense counsel who will be going through all the gory details of that incident with the victim, perpetrator with the family of both right behind him or her gets what? We do have the Lawyers Assistance Program - which I encourage all students and lawyers to learn about hopefully prior to needing it - http://lapbc.com/ I just think we need to be serious about this issue and it requires a culture shift.
  8. And just like that look what shows up in my inbox: never mind - I have no idea how to attach a file apparently but basically it is a thing from REAL that says: Page 1 2019 REAL Program Overview REAL 2019 Program Overview Overview REAL is an access to justice initiative established in 2009 to address the current and projected shortage of legal services in small communities and rural areas of the province and the related consequences on access to justice for British Columbians. This shortage was brought about by a combination of two factors, namely the aging of the profession as a whole and the historical preference among new lawyers to practice in urban regions. The REAL program’s primary focus is to promote to law students the option of establishing a career in a smaller community with skilled lawyers who enjoy what they do. This provides an opportunity for students to become key participants in the community, enhancing the overall quality of life and community infrastructure in the area and promoting access to justice. The REAL Program focuses on funding second year summer positions through the student placement program by providing a 3-4 month opportunity to permit the firms and students to assess each other without the expense (and time commitment to a rural practitioner) of a full articling term and PLTC. In 2019, the REAL Program is entering a new phase of collaborative support focusing on communities that are of the highest risk of not being able to provide access to justice to their residents. We have identified the following communities as high needs in 2019: Castlegar Comox Fort St. John Grand Forks Hazelton Kitimat Lumby Merritt Nakusp / Kaslo Oliver/Osoyoos Port Hardy Port Alberni Prince Rupert Summerland Tofino/Ucluelet There are other areas throughout BC that may also have access to justice concerns. If a community is not on this list but you feel falls in this category, please contact the REAL office. Background Earlier this year, REAL conducted an in-depth program analysis calling on our former students and firms involved in the program since 2009. The analysis determined the REAL program was successfully meeting its mandate of promoting access to justice across BC. The review also revealed:  Overall, 61% of former REAL students continue to work in communities that serve a rural area with 48% practicing law in their REAL community.  Of the respondents practicing in a rural area, 96% indicated they were likely to continue working in their current community for the next five years.  Over 80% of respondents continue to actively participate in access to justice initiatives.  Across BC, there were 111 approved REAL funding requests between 2009 – 2017 Page 2 2019 REAL Program Overview o Between 2009 and 2014, 54% of firms offered articling positions with 38% of students accepting those offers. o Between 2015 through 2017, 92% of the firms offered articling positions to their REAL student with 64% of students accepting those offers in 2015 and 2016. In 2017, REAL began analyzing communities in BC that were currently, or at risk of not being able to provide an adequate level of legal services to residents. The analysis of these high needs communities became a critical component from which the REAL Advisory Board funding selections were based upon. The Board actively reached out to firms in those communities to ensure they were aware of the program and encouraged them to apply. This has been successful and we plan on continuing to target high needs communities. The high needs community analysis uses information including:  current and historical population data  current active lawyer information, and  economic and political climate impacting the area. The Current State of REAL The REAL Program is facing a substantial funding reduction this year which has precipitated a shift in our funding model for the Student Placement program. Our goal is to continue to fund as many students as possible. In past years we have encouraged firms to contribute a portion of the amount needed to cover the wages and many have. However, more emphasis will be placed on this type of partnership going forward. We have identified three strategies to mitigate the impact of the funding shortfall, including: 1. The Advisory Board members are seeking partners to match grants within specific communities and REAL will provide information to firms interested in applying for funding 2. Law Firms seeking local funding partners to match grants 3. Law firms can self match. The REAL Advisory Board reviews all applications at the end of February when they determine which firms will receive funding through the program. Incoming applications will be weighted on a number of factors including: 1. Located in a high needs community or serves a high needs community 2. Urgency of need 3. Matching funding has been secured 4. Ability and willingness to offer an articling position in the following year. It will be the responsibility of each firm to approach potential funders and relay the details of matching partners to the REAL Program Manager. Firms that secure local funding partners or self-match will have their applications prioritized over applications requesting full funding. ...and some other stuff. But the important bit may be the "high need communities" - if I were looking for a placement I would start there. Again - good luck.
  9. Hello JF, I have employed REAL students in the past. Some thoughts: 1) if you are serious about northern practice it's a great foot in the door 2) personally, I would hope that you would only take a position with a firm/in a community you would see yourself practicing with for some time afterwards. There are no guarantees of fit of course but at least go into it with the mindset that you would be willing or want to work there in the future. This makes the best use of the limited resources of the firm and the program. 3) ask about past students and offers. A firm that hires just because there is a deal to be had (the program pays part of the Salary) may not be the firm for you. If they haven't hired any of their past REAL students - why? 4) pound the pavement a bit. Many small firms may not have heard of the program - so you can let them know that hiring you may be at a discount. Good luck.
  10. I wrote a response yesterday - deleted it, thought about it some more, and came to the understanding that this might not help the OP but I want to say it. THIS PROFESSION IS NOT THAT GREAT. All over this site are people who are putting their entire heart and sole into the fulfillment of a dream. That's great, wonderful, reach for the stars, rah rah ... [NTD: insert a great deal more bs here] But, many years out - the happiest "lawyers" I know aren't practicing law. (note in point - probably the smartest guy I knew in law school now does this: http://www.mycozyclassics.com/ ). We have a huge burn out rate and our predictors for mental and physical health are among the lowest of all professions. A large enough portion of us as to be very scary have alcohol and drug dependency issues. The majority of the lawyer/parents I talk to would not recommend this job to their kids - I know I wouldn't (if either of them come decide to do it of their own accord - they will have my support of course - 'cause parenting- but believe me I am really working on how fun STEM subjects are). It also just isn't the path to riches and easily attainable upper middle class living it once was. And I say this as someone who has worked very hard to create a practice that is sustainable from a mental and physical health perspective. I know we are suppose to overcome every obstacle climb every mountain [ntd: more of that bs here as well please] - but please take a long second look - "failing" at this specific objective maybe the very best thing that ever happens to you. Edited to add - I am more than happy to talk one on one if you like. I don't know what skills i bring to the table in that regard. What I do know is that when you say "i want to die" that I can speak for all of us here and in the profession when I say "we don't want you to". We want you healthy and strong.
  11. That's a very interesting career choice - ime folks usually go the other way (I am in BC). I would be curious as to your motivation (not judging just honestly curious). Does your jurisdiction use private lawyers on legal aid files? We have had folks take a few legal aid family files while they were just starting out in "private" practice. They usually give up on legal aid fairly soon.
  12. Finding out that the "girlfriend" of a client I needed to get an affidavit from was the spouse of another client.
  13. sooooo. did you get him out? (obv I have no idea what "set date court" is) .... ever have a day when 10 to 11 am seems like a perfectly respectable time to start drinking? ..... ever think that it would be great if this site was made to look more like CanLii? so if someone comes into you office when you are "motivationally challenged" as far as work goes it wouldn't look like you are slacking off?
  14. You and me both... did I mention I am many, many, many years in.
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