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  1. 14 points
    Accepted today! GPA: 3.0 L2/B2: 3.91 Lsat: 161 General category!!!!!!!! I can't believe I've been accepted in one of the first rounds. I applied to the MA econ/JD program and really focused my PS on why I specifically wanted to go to Queen's for that program. I started bawling when I saw the acceptance because I really couldn't believe it! It's my first choice so I will most likely be accepting Good luck everyone!!
  2. 10 points
    I think Uriel *was* that student. But I remember it being tripping the fire alarm that emptied the building. I like the addition of real flames tho. Let’s go with that version.
  3. 10 points
    In, as of of this morning!!! cGPA: 3.5 (including fall grades) L2: 3.6 LSAT: 144, 149, 166 ontario resident.
  4. 7 points
    I went to Queen’s because I wanted to see what living in Ontario would be like. I was 21 and had very few attachments. It was a perfect time to explore.
  5. 6 points
    Just a quick anecdote. A couple months after I was hired into my second Crown job, my office had an opening and hired from the same pool of applicants in the hiring process that hired me. I remembered meeting the new guy. Super nice guy, and very smart. He even clerked with the SCC out of law school (and thus was also bilingual). I did not have anything anywhere near as impressive on my resume. So why had I come in first in the competition, and he came in second? I had more directly applicable real world experience in that position.
  6. 6 points
    Prestige is stupid generally, but I don't see how the stats of students are the only or even most important factor in determining prestige.
  7. 5 points
    Heh, and I could hardly disagree more. (Especially if you think it's possible that living in the new place could lead you to want to stay in the new place, thus increasing the size of your target job market.) If I had one regret about going to Osgoode, it's that I lost the opportunity to see and live in a new part of Canada. I don't think that requires one to look at law school as a vacation. But living in a new place is itself a learning experience and one you will take with you for the rest of your life. (This is particularly valuable if you have always lived in the same place before.) Plus, the career cost of getting that (real living) experience after law school is going to be a lot higher than the cost of getting it during law school. ETA: I do want to note that for this purpose I would consider Kingston and Toronto to be "different parts of Canada", however absurd that may seem looking at a map.
  8. 5 points
    Got the email today! B2: 3.84 CGPA: 3.59 LSAT: 165 (highest) MA + very good ECs, work experience & volunteering.
  9. 5 points
    lol. That's OP's thread and I really hope this was on purpose.
  10. 5 points
    uOttawa has tons to offer because of the size of the faculty, students (therefore more clubs, etc.), and the capital location. Privileges such as Supreme Court Interventions, having profs from the Department of Justices, retired Supreme Court judges to as guest speakers because of the profs' connections, a Supreme Court Reception for 1Ls (we were blown away) etc. are just a few of the uOttawa perks. uOttawa is also known for consistently beating even the Ivys (+ Oxford, German unis etc.) in mooting - definitely helps if you're keen on litigation. If you're willing to learn French and take advantage of the largest bilingual uni in Canada, you could also opt to take a bilingual course in 2L/3L which would make a huge different for employment opportunities I assume - opens a whole new market to you. I'm a 10mins walk away from campus with a bus stop right in front of my doorstep and I pay rent between the range of $550 - $590 depending on seasonal utilities so you just have to look around in advance. One thing I've come to love about Ottawa, it might not be as cosmopolitan as Toronto but it's pretty centralized. You've got the Supreme Court, Rideau Canal, Byward Market, National Art Gallery, Museum, Parliament Hill, City Hall, Rideau Centre, downtown and suburbs all roughly in the same area (all within 20mins walking distance from me). There aren't too many clubbing scenes around but the pubs are nice. Lastly, I've heard horror stories of the nasty competitiveness in Toronto (UofT and Osgoode). Not sure about Western. Students sabotaging each other for grades, ripping out pages from library textbooks so others can't do the readings, hogging the books when mass assignments are due so others don't have access etc. I was considering transferring myself, but now I'm not so sure because I've come to love the environment I'm in and opportunities available here. Other upper year students I've spoken to have all had similar opinions.
  11. 5 points
    Got the email late in the evening. cGPA: ~2.6 L2: 3.9 LSAT: 161, 163 No ECs. Some decent work experience. Second application - first one was waitlisted.
  12. 4 points
    I never noticed this. Most people by 3L realize that it's a cash grab. Anything substantive that you need to learn will be picked up in practice. The people I know who caught onto that and basically just focused on exams did just as well as some others. I'd argue that all the medalists from my class focused on the exam rather than exploring the actual content of their courses.
  13. 4 points
    In today!!! I legit checked half an hour ago and there was nothing and all of a sudden it showed up. CGPA: 3.56 LSAT: 164, 165 Ontario Resident Access Student
  14. 4 points
    I don't think the methods it suggests are the be all and end all. However, focusing on the final exam from the outset and thinking about the 'right' way to read cases (i.e. what is the legal test that will ultimately be applicable to a fact pattern) are decent points. Knowing how to effectively structure an exam answer is something a lot of profs gloss over, even though they often expect a particular format.
  15. 4 points
    That's not what a pyramid scheme is, but go off champ.
  16. 3 points
    While I don't endorse OP's "success guide" in its entirety, I'm not sure that your bolded quote flows from the strategies it recommends. You can both focus on the final exam and you can engage enthusiastically in the course material and classes. I actually recall reading this guide before law school or some earlier version of it, and between it and the ideas advanced in Getting to Maybe, I found that focusing on the final exam from day one was the right approach for me. Concurrently, I also had no difficulty keenly following and participating in courses where the subject matter was especially fascinating or the professor was particularly engaging. I did both. I did well. Now in practice, the subjects that stuck with me the most and in which I feel the strongest are surprisingly the ones where the professor was either boring or hard to follow and for which I checked out early to go it alone and try and master the final exam solo (as the linked guide, I think, recommends broadly). So, the assertion that you get a more valuable education--and that this will help you in practice--from engaging more in the Law School's or individual professor's curriculum isn't necessarily true across the board, or perhaps at all. Clinics and internships and other opportunities that will give you hands-on lawyering experience? Sure, that will help you in practice. But taking notes furiously in Corporate Law every single class and putting up your hand to answer teach's queries? Sorry, no. That is probably not going to make you a better lawyer than anyone else, though it shows you've got real moxie, kiddo. And in any event, as I said, you can do both. I was an eager beaver but also I focused on the final exam just fine without it affecting my legal enthusiasm or making me a hardcore ratrace triathlete. Every student has to figure out what works best for them. Some of this guide may provide some useful strategies for some. It may be useless to others. All "Law School Guides" are to be taken with a grain of salt, and at the end of the day each individual student has to figure out best practices and habits and make decisions for themselves. Anyone who thinks there is one singular recipe to succeeding at law school will be disappointed.
  17. 3 points
    I did alright in law school. But what is a hornbook?
  18. 3 points
    By definition, any job in the for-profit sector is structured in a way that you generate more value than you are paid in wages, and the owners of the company profit as a result. If you think that's inherently exploitative, there are people who'd agree with you - Karl Marx, most particularly. But unless you intend to take aim at capitalism as a whole, I think your outrage is a bit ridiculous, here. If you don't want to work for other lawyers then work for yourself. Law affords you that opportunity. If you can't or won't do that, stop complaining that someone else profits off your work. You are no more exploited that any other employee, and far less than most.
  19. 3 points
    I’ve been told you have to royally stand out in a bad way not to get hired back for articling. I hardly know if this actually happened but a friend of mine told me a story he/she heard from a friend of his/hers about one student being aggressively sexual towards co-workers and not being hired back. But for the love of god no one use this as a bar for almost how bad you can be.
  20. 3 points
    No way. The price point for Toronto real estate is more like Manhattan or pre-Brexit London.
  21. 3 points
    You can take classes in a subject that you are not majoring in. Also, really wish people would stop coming into these kind of threads ready to pounce. You don't know whatever op is dealing with and it is not at all helpful to determine from the small piece of info that you read whether someone should abandon their dream/career/etc. And holy fuck, forget about mental health stigma, the mere mention of a mental illness has given you the authority to tell op this? Never been depressed? Body image issues? Compulsive tendencies? Anxiety? Good for you but mental illness includes a variety of issues. The large majority of lawyers would be out of a job if we go by your criteria. Btw, It is possible to just not comment in a thread.
  22. 3 points
    Maybe reach out to people in the field on LinkedIn. Also, I've read many of your posts and it's clear that you want to go to U of T, and want people to tell you that it's ok for you to go there. It's ok; go to U of T. You can always transfer out after 1L if you change your mind. No family law firm in Toronto gives a rat's ass where you go for law school. Just confirm this yourself by emailing senior lawyers at these firms and students. Not sure why you're repeating the same questions ad nauseum on lawstudents instead of reaching out to actual students and lawyers in the field. They could do more to help you make a decision than anons on a website. There are very few, if any, family lawyers and students on this website (from what I can tell).
  23. 3 points
    It sounds like you already know where you want to go, and just want some confirmation from people here that you're making the right choice. I chose Osgoode over Queen's (already graduated), and am happy with my decision. But it's not the be all and end all. Do what you think is best for you. Osgoode has 4 sections in first year of around 75-80 students each, but you can choose to take smaller classes after first year. There are lots of opportunities to get involved and socialize there too, so don't think Queen's has some sort of premium culture on this. It's law school after all and you're not going to York for undergraduate studies. If by prestige, you're referring to reputation, then Osgoode and Queen's are both reputable/prestigious law schools to attend. Don't let anyone tell you that Osgoode doesn't have a historical prestige associated with it, because it does, and this may matter to some people (doesn't for most). I personally believe that the name alone opened lot of doors for me in the Toronto market, so you can PM me if you want more specific information on this. One thing to note is the amount of public law/constitutional course offerings at Osgoode and clinical intensive programs. https://www.osgoode.yorku.ca/programs/juris-doctor/jd-program/clinics-intensives/ https://www.osgoode.yorku.ca/courses-and-seminars/ I would seriously be considering Ottawa over Queen's if you're interested in government and public law. Most of these jobs are in Toronto and Ottawa, and Ottawa has a lot of connections there. Queen's really seems to be emphasizing business now, but in the past they were known for criminal, family, and labour and employment as well. It really doesn't matter which school you pick in terms of practice areas, but some have more opportunities than others in areas that may be of interest to you, and this is something you should factor into your decision. Prestige isn't going to get you the job that you want. That comes down to your grades, personality, experiences, and potentially your course selection (as it indicates interest).
  24. 3 points
    I am not getting where you think that Osgoode has a "prestige" position? Maclean's magazine? I wouldn't put much weight on this. or let this forum influence you....we are a bunch of young people who are trying to figure it out.... My parents are both lawyers with considerable years under their belt...one a grad from Queen's, the other a grad from Osgoode. They have been very clear with me that the schools have their different strengths but that this idea that one school is better than the rest is a fallacy....I am headed to Queen's. It is simply a better environment for me . It has a great reputation and has produced some great lawyers. The bottom line is where do you want to spend you next few years? What is it that makes a particular school attractive to you?
  25. 3 points
    There's absolutely nothing necessary to take before the bar.
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