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  1. 11 points
  2. 9 points
    Buy a book stand. Metal, wood, doesn't matter. They make them for iPads too if you're an all-digital type of person. It's a nice quality of life upgrade to have something to prop up whatever you're reading at eye level so you don't have to hunch over your desk.
  3. 8 points
    I know you aren't asking whether you should do this. But really. Don't do this. At some point, the licensing process is going to require more than an hour or two per night. It is not a hobby. It requires sacrifice. Pursuing the title of lawyer, without wanting to do any of the work of becoming a lawyer or being a lawyer, is not very good idea. There are easier, cheaper trophies out there. Find one of those.
  4. 7 points
    When you transfer out, you need to have a clear explanation for your decision and ambitions to avoid looking like some aimless nomad who won't commit to the program. So when you apply to other schools, make sure you are very clear that with your 1L pedigree you expect to stand out from your classmates; that your admission at UofT and your experiences there will make you a top candidate for leadership in the student body given the higher admissions standards and superior instruction. I'd suggest you attach a copy of the Maclean's ranking, and maybe print out copies of the recent lawstudents.ca Accepted threads from both schools. You should also send these, along with a copy of your transfer application, to the ECs you might want to run next year such as student newspapers, law journal, clinics, etc.
  5. 7 points
  6. 7 points
    When I was in law school, I drank it as fast as I bought it. No need for a rack.
  7. 5 points
    Hi everyone, I've been trying to determine some of the items that law students would consider to be useful or even necessary for a smooth law school experience. I figure that I'll need things like a good laptop and maybe a well fitted suit but aside from that does anyone have any recommendations? It could be anything from a worthwhile pricey splurge to a 5 dollar item that makes life a little easier. I look forward to your feedback!
  8. 5 points
    No, but I also don't want my lawyer to be the kind of person who offers pointless snide remarks that are of no help to the question at hand.
  9. 5 points
    Here are somethings you can do for free; some seem like common sense, or things that one would have tackled in UG, but that may not be the case so I'm offering them up here: 1. get a professional looking Gmail account (e.g., [email protected]); [email protected] doesn't look great on a resume. 2. make an exercise routine, and you don't need to lift weights or start triathlon training; going for 30 min walk every night will a lot for your fitness and mental well being, and will make you perform better at school. 3. clean up your social media, and make a very simple LinkedIn account (don't add every job you've ever had and don't list all the clubs you joined in UG); ppl will google you. 4. learn how to make a few healthy meals; making a veggie chili on sunday night and freezing it for easy lunches and dinners will save you lots of time and lots of money. also, you'll be eating healthy. 5. make monthly budgets to help keep your debt low (and budget for fun stuff, whatever that is for you - video games, drinks with friends, a ski pass, whatever) 6. make your eye/dental/dr. appointments now; figure out if your school has a health plan you can use and actually plan to use it. most ppl don't do this and then go three years without getting checkups that they should get.
  10. 5 points
    Do your own homework. Or conversely, get legal advice offline.
  11. 5 points
    It's about time for me to chime in and update the forum regarding my experience so far. First, I want to thank everyone who offered their time and advice late last year. Quitting your job to begin an entrepreneurial venture is incredibly scary. I am very grateful for the advice and support I received here. To recap, in November 2018 I was an PI lawyer with about $50,000.00 saved. I wasn't happy as a one trick pony and was considering renting a space and starting a general practice from scratch. It was terrifying. I turned to this forum for advice. I also started meeting with general practitioners in my area to develop a strategy. While exploring my options, I ended up finding two lawyers that share expenses and keep their profits. They were getting older and just so happened to be interested in having another lawyer around. I met with them and it seemed to be a good fit. I gave my employer notice, was fired on the spot and started the next day. I didn't just hang my own shingle and start from scratch. That would have been much harder, and kudos to anyone who has conquered that challenge. Basically, I walked into turn key arrangement where I had two seasoned lawyers to mentor me. I didn't have to be afraid about taking on files where I needed to learn a thing or two along the way. That was a big bonus. To get things started, I put $10,000.00 into the firm's general account and we started a limited liability partnership with my name on the letterhead. I signed up for the criminal and family legal aid panels. I also signed up for the law society referral service which helped initially. Having left a busy PI practice, I also took some dog files to keep me busy (which haven't paid a penny yet). To meet my living expenses, I started taking a draw of $500.00 per week. Some of the best advice I received here was to control my home overhead, which I did. It was the only thing I had absolute control over in the beginning. My draw increased to $750.00 a few months later and I take $1000.00 at present. To my surprise the work started rolling in rather quickly. And not because the lawyers were feeding it to me. My network referred things right away and the phone rang regularly for family law matters. I also picked up some criminal files along the way, and a few real estate transactions started trickling in. Since Nov 2018, I have about 100 files which is plenty to keep me busy. About 90% of the work I brought in myself, whether through legal aid or through the network. The other 10% has been referred by my partners, and I give them 15% of the billings. No two experiences are the same. But mine has been way better than I could have expected. I made just shy of $5,000.00 after tax between Nov and Dec 2018. Between Jan 2019 and present, I've billed $175,000.00 and have collected a little over $100,000.00. I have no doubt I will bill $300,000.00 by the end of the year. I'm working between 45-60 hours a week which keeps my monthly billings are between $25,000.00 and $30,000.00 per month. This is based on $250.00 an hour and legal aid at $109.14 an hour. In terms of overhead, a 1/3 share of rent, two clerks, a receptionist, etc., is about $70,000.00 a year. It's nuts to think about, but I'm expecting to be making a gross income north of $200,000.00 which is more than 3 times what I was earning before. Im also hitting these numbers in a small town where you can buy a house for under $300,000.00. Certainly something to consider for those folks who are entrenched in the big city or bust mentality. Please feel free to ask any questions. I would be happy to post responses and hope the discussion will be useful to other members of the bar considering the plunge into sole practice or partnership.
  12. 4 points
    Accepted off the waitlist today (will accept)! Super excited to join the incoming class. Stats: self-calculated index somewhere around 91.3. cGPA 82%, higher with drops. LSAT 164. Have both Bachelor and Master degrees.
  13. 4 points
    We don't actually know what the heck is going on. Speaking as a criminal defence lawyer, when any prospective client confronts me with utterly inexplicable behavior on the part of the authorities (not necessarily illicit behavior - I mean behavior that doesn't make sense even if you assume ill intent) I immediately tend to assume there's more to the story than I'm being told. Maybe the person telling me the story is leaving out information so they sound better and get the answers they want to hear. Maybe they're leaving out information because they don't have it themselves. Either way, there's generally more to the story than "the powers that be suddenly decided to single out this one person for special, individual persecution for no discernible reason." All of that is to say, OP, get the full story from your school. Find out exactly what you are being accused of, and why, and then get professional legal help. Use your school clinic if you have one and they do this stuff, to start. And then if your entire academic year is in jeopardy, take it to a real lawyer if need be. Despite the fact that you are asking a question about how things work in law school(s), and that's on point for this forum, you are facing real legal difficulties here (fyi, decision-making and adjudication in schools is a species of admin law) and unless it goes away on its own, which is unlikely with accusations this serious, you need real legal help, not just answers that you've rigged your query to receive from strangers on the Internet. In all events, good luck.
  14. 4 points
    "audible groan* should have gone to Queen's "audible groan*...
  15. 4 points
    So the 170 in your chances post last summer wasn't an actual score?
  16. 3 points
    You need to chill out. I will let others advise on the career stuff, but you won't necessarily get better grades at another school. You will probably just get a bunch of Bs just like most other people.
  17. 3 points
    I don't think it will sour the relationship and I doubt they would even care or remember a year later once the person shows up to article. Students are entitled to think an offer over and I've seen plenty take a chunk of time to do so before returning with a decision and it's never been an issue.
  18. 3 points
    No. The Queen's certificate program will not be necessarily conducive to improving your admission chances at Canadian law schools. The program consists of online courses; it will not provide you with various opportunities to interact with your instructors as well as other students. So, you do not need to register the certificate program. Please take any courses in which you have a great interest and have substantuve confidence to do well. I strongly advise you to look for your preferred law schools' admission requirements or entering class profiles if they are available on the schools' webpage. Furthermore, you need to formulate your own strategies for ameliorating your chances at Canadian law schools, such as taking additional couses or doing very well on the LSAT. Good luck!!
  19. 3 points
    You can try taking notes on the scrap paper and see if it works for you. I’m retaking in September and possibly October or November depending on what score I get on August 28th. I had immense difficulty working with the highlighter tool during the test. I gave up on it halfway through. I have been working on RC a little differently since July and it I’ve seen some improvements in my score. I stopped notating completely and simply keep track of view points, main point and structure in my head. The one neat thing about digital RC is that line references in questions are highlighted for you automatically in the passage. It saves a lot of time and relieves you of any pressure to find a particular sentence or word that they may refer to.
  20. 3 points
    You're the prototypical law student: you have every reason to be confident in yourself yet have poor self-esteem
  21. 3 points
    The median stats for Oz is posted right on their website (same with U of T since you asked this in that thread too). I'll do your 10 second homework for you - median is around 3.69 cGPA and 161 LSAT. At this point, your posts come off as a not-so-humble brag. What do you think your chances are with close to an A- cGPA and 99th percentile LSAT score? You can very easily google this information.
  22. 2 points
    @diplock has requested that this post be added. I think it's likely to be helpful.
  23. 2 points
    This is yet another reminder that more than one account isn't allowed here. And when you start replying to yourself, well, that's just weird.
  24. 2 points
    Live and learn is a very common saying and is not from a tort case. You have no idea that you would have gotten a better grade in that class had you devoted a different amount to studying for that exam. You may very well have received the same grade. @Diplock is a poster on this forum who doesn't mince words and has a knack for putting people in their place in a manner that is entertaining for everyone.
  25. 2 points
    I think it depends by school. At UOttawa and Queen’s, I think the faculty sets a date for the OCI schedule release, so you may not hear anything until then (usually in early October). Some firms may send an advanced email a week or so before that date. So I suppose you’ll know in early October. Also, most firms don’t send an email, so don’t be sad if you’d don’t get any. I only had one email before the release date, but had something like 11 OCIs scheduled.
  26. 2 points
    Don't buy pens, I have pen swag from every law firm within 1000kms of me. You will get pen swag.
  27. 2 points
    Giving away first year textbooks to an incoming College of Law student who has accepted their offer and is definitely attending this fall. You must give the books away to an incoming U of S student next year through this forum (publicly) and add one additional primary textbook (if the list changes or there is a new edition) or a secondary text you found useful (i.e. if no changes to the list or new editions; cannot be the Criminal Code). The hope is to extend this generosity to future years for as long as possible.After receipt of the textbooks, the recipient must make a post in this thread.These terms are to be explained to and carried out by future recipients as well.First person to message me and agree to these terms gets the books. I will be in Saskatoon on Thursday next week, or we can meet up the weekend before school begins.
  28. 2 points
  29. 2 points
    Definitely try not to worry too much. Your GPA is in the correct range and it sounds like the LSAT went fine. I went through a similar phase of obsessing over every possibility with regards to my application and I just laugh looking back... so much time wasted.
  30. 2 points
    By that, I mean I am a mature undergraduate student with several years of work experience, although unrelated to law in its scope.
  31. 2 points
    Hi~guys. I called the admin today. A nice guy picked up the phone and said the class is already full and the waitlist will never be numbered this year. The chances of admission will depend on the persons who reject their offers from Ottawa. I do not know how to say about the suffering process. Why they make a big waitlist list and just admit a few guys? They really need to improve their admin efficiency. We paid our application fee for the service.
  32. 2 points
    For most of the year I wear leggings and a big sweater and that is very normal.
  33. 2 points
    You get 14 pages of scratch paper. It’s more than plenty of paper for diagraming games and RC/LR notation. The only complaint I’ve seen come up fairly often about the paper is the LSAC watermark across each page. I didn’t find it to be a big distraction but it’s a bit subjective.
  34. 2 points
    Hi 76th. You are given bounded scrap paper to do whatever you please throughout the test.
  35. 2 points
    Law schools don't differentiate based on courses taken or majors. Take courses you are interested in and will do well in.
  36. 2 points
  37. 2 points
    OP said that they don't want to pursue an option that doesn't give them the title of "lawyer". That means an LLM would not suffice. The only way to actually be a lawyer and be licensed to practice law in Canada is to follow Hegdis's advice above.
  38. 2 points
    You are not a lawyer in Canada until you either 1. get a Canadian degree, article, and pass the Bar, or 2. Get a foreign law degree recognized by the NCA, write the NCA exams, article, and pass the Bar.
  39. 2 points
    Ignoring class strengths because I really don't think there's enough to distinguish there, Queens has a higher curve. It's literally easier, all else equal, to get a B+.
  40. 2 points
    I don't underatand these sorts of questions - Applying consists of sending a C.V. and a (slightly) customized cover letter. Is that really so time consuming that you shouldn't bother if you don't have a great shot at an interview? It's a very small amount of effort (especially when compared to working at one of these firms). If you can't be bothered, how interested are you in working there, really? I know people with similar grades that work in large or national firms. It's certainly possible, if not likely. And at the very least, you get some practice doing applications, which can only help you.
  41. 2 points
    I just wanted to make a point about our DB pension. Right at the start you cited a gross Crown salary of $150k. That can certainly happen. But remember that's a gross salary. I contributed I $20-$30k per year towards my DB pension. That's money that comes right out of my paycheque and I won't see it for decades. A DB pension is definitely a nice benefit to have - but it isn't free. And your pensionable benefits are substantially less than your salary. I think I get 2% per year of service. So after 30 years, I'll retire with 60% of my salary - which is very unlikely to add up to $150k. That being said: I can't disagree with much that @KingLouishas said here. I can think of the grand total of one Crown who has gone to do defence work in thelast 5+ years, but a couple dozen or more your defence lawyers who have joined the Crown's office.
  42. 2 points
    I don't want to derail this thread and wasn't going to comment further, but this just irked me quite a bit. Do you know that immigrants and first generation Canadians are flooding professional school programs like medicine, dentistry, and law? Something they all have in common is that they worked hard (very hard) to be there. You yourself admitted to not working harder in undergrad. I came from a relatively poor background and was working multiple jobs in undergrad while commuting 4 hours to university everyday. I went to Osgoode and got into a number of other schools as well. My parents came to Canada with nothing and could not afford to pay for my education even if they had wanted to. Yet you have the luxury of travelling abroad for law school and are calling the people here who worked their asses off to get into Canadian programs elitists...tell me, who is actually privileged - you or me? If I did not get into a Canadian law school, my legal aspirations were done. I took out OSAP and a student line of credit at prime interest rate to pay for the whole thing. I depended on bursaries from my law school. While you can take out a line of credit to attend a foreign school, you need a co-signer with good credit (which I did not have) and the interest rates are high. Scotiabank just recently stopped giving out loans to students travelling abroad altogether. We need to stop these kinds of nonsense statements in its tracks. I see it a lot from my friends and peers who went abroad for law school. Something they all have in common is that they come from money, are well-connected, and they didn't work as hard as us elitists in undergrad to get into a Canadian school. But, hey, bring out the banners and march on the streets because us elitists are blocking them access to these "high paid jobs" to maintain the status quo.
  43. 1 point
    This is correct. Lawyers are only considered a first year associate until the end of the firms calendar year, at that point they become second year associates and receive a raise from the $82K - $85K to $100K - $105K (variance depending on firm.
  44. 1 point
    To be a prototypical lawstudent, one also should have a paper-thin veneer of affected overconfidence/hubris, imo.
  45. 1 point
    Your opportunity cost is very high. You give up a $75K job to get into law with no guarantee that you will earn as much as you earn now after graduation. Many of my classmates are still earning less than what you are making now. We graduated 4 years ago.
  46. 1 point
    I don't think anyone can really answer this for you. Financially, it doesn't make sense as you're adding on possibly 100k+ in additional debt and foregoing 3 years of a decent income for uncertain future employment. However, financial security is only a part of the decision. How bad do you want to be a lawyer? Can you see yourself doing the same line of work you're currently doing for another 30 years? Is there more growth opportunity in that line of work and are you interested in pursuing that? Would you be ok with never having gone to law school or being a lawyer knowing you had the opportunity to do so? Only you can answer these questions. Many mature students face the added hurdle of giving up an established career to start over fresh. It's a daunting prospect that I try not to think about. The alternative is not going to law school, and I think I would regret that more.
  47. 1 point
    That's the right attitude. It's the system, man, that's keeping you down. If only they would stop judging you based on the fact that you haven't been very successful to this point in school, you'd just be so much more successful in the future. God damn elitists, letting in students based on their past performance, and not on how much they really really really really know they'd be great lawyers.
  48. 1 point
    I got many questions from friends over the summer about how I went about writing my personal statement and I thought I'd made a post in case others find it helpful too. WHEN: There are no golden rules for how early you should start your essay. I started writing down ideas about my essay as early as June when the deadline for applications were in November. I know! That is super early! Everyone told me that I shouldn't be investing any time in my essay and focus my time entirely on the LSAT. But I had my own reasons for not listening to them and kept investing as little as 20 minutes per week to my essay. Here was my reason: for me, my story, and the reason I wanted to go to law school was a great source of motivation for keeping up the long hours of studying. Thinking about my essay was thinking about my WHY, my purpose for going to law school, and being constantly reminded of this WHY gave me the motivation to keep focusing on the LSAT. HOW: If you are applying to all law schools in Ontario, (side note: I applied to all 6 schools and got into 5/6 schools. I am currently attending Osgoode Hall Law School) I recommend that you start your essays by working on Windsor Law's essay since it has broken down the essay into a few questions and If you like you can even break these questions down further. This is important because having multiple questions will make it simpler to extract information from your mind. For most other schools, you are going to be asked to write about a very general topic. I encourage you to take all the information from you Windsor essay and turn it into a story. An advice that I got from York University's Career Counsellor was to tell the story out loud a few times before you put it on paper. And finally when you have figured out a logical structure for your essay, start writing When you start writing, ignore the word restriction and write as much as you like remembering that you can always edit at the end. Don't restrict yourself by thinking you have to finish your Windsor essay before you start the rest. I started working on the simultaneously when i finished jotting down all ideas for my Windsor essay. One question that I often get asked is whether I tailored my statement of purpose for each law school based on their area of specialty. For example, my area of passion is international human rights law and my essays were very social justice oriented and I get asked if I changed my essay for Western Law to fit their corporate culture? The answer is no. However I did put in the effort to research Westerns law's clinics and faculty to see how best Western can help me achieve my purpose. So, yes although I made adjustments for each essay I did not change the underlying idea or misrepresented my purpose. Feel free to message me if you had any questions.
  49. 1 point
    Christ. People try to help you and this is the response. I shall be concise: Terrible LSAT. Mediocre GPA. 1% at a Canadian law school. 90% at a UK law school and a long, difficult road that will be impeded by your horrible attitude.
  50. 1 point
    At UDM yes in Windsor no. Just have the case summaries on you + the textbook and you’ll be fine it sounds scarier than it actually is
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