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  1. 12 points
    Got the email just now. cGPA: 3.5 LSAT: 155 As a current fourth year at UofT, I'm honestly very ecstatic to be approaching my final days in this extremely unpleasant, money-hungry, apathetic institution. Good luck to everyone else and see ya never UofT. 😎
  2. 11 points
    Did you call and inquire before you applied? That would have been the intelligent thing to do if this was a real concern of yours. Come on, people. All these cries of 'unfair' are a bit silly. Who ever told you that life was fair? If you're this upset over a stated policy that you didn't investigate further, what are you going to do when you don't like being graded on a curve, or you don't get more OCIs than a classmate, or someone else gets hired back and you don't? I would caution those of you making the negative comments about those who have received acceptances, to remember that you may get in and then those people you are denigrating will be your classmates. Is this really the way you want to meet new friends, classmates and future colleagues? Lastly, it's mid-March. There is still lots of time to go in this cycle and there are likely to be many more offers made. Waiting sucks but allowing it to direct your confusion/anger/resentment towards others isn't productive and ultimately will only make the waiting worse.
  3. 8 points
    I say the below with respect and acknowledge your good stats. I can understand that from your position things may not seem fair and waiting out for a decision you really want to hear back from really sucks. But I also say this as one of those 153 LSAT maritimers you seem to be looking down your nose at. I'm also saying this because every time someone tries to explain this to you you seem to escalate into this 'not fair' narrative. In an earlier comment you mentioned the 153 student really shows you what UNB is looking for. I would agree in that the school is looking at factors that cannot be determined by numbers alone. I would also dare suggest that said person perhaps demonstrated other traits that the school was looking for. We do not know if they were accepted simply because they were from the maritimes. Honestly you seem to be blaming maritimers for not leaving room for you at UNB. Why should they when you yourself stated that the main reason you wanted to go there was because of the small student body. Maritimers have been born and raised there, not to mention demonstrated some measure of loyalty to a province that has barely anything going for it (no offence to my NB brothers and sisters, but it is true). You have been accepted to other schools and yet are totally caught up on this 'how dare they' complex directed at UNB; a school that is honestly trying its hardest to maintain the law infrastructure in the province because if they dont then you can count on no one else doing it. This is an assumption, but it seems you want to come in for 3 years to a school with only 96 seats then immediately leave, so honestly why should the school accept you ahead of a maritimer? I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed in, but I'm trying to put this into perspective, much like IrishStew and CrystalClear. I agree that province preference isn't necessarily fair, but every professional school does it because there aren't enough schools to go around and ultimately people tend to just go back home once they are done. Each school has a duty to maintain the professional structure of the province it is in first and foremost. It may not seem fair, but it is actually an ethical principle that puts the province's health ahead of individuals' desires. If the school accepted only the highest scoring applicants then it would quickly fill its seats with people from the GTA, Montreal, etc because that is where the greatest concentrations of people are. Thus, there would be much less room for maritimers and the province could quickly be beset by hard times. Lastly, regional preferences are certainly not "as unfair as it gets". I would argue that preferences along racial and gender lines would be far worse and have no effective basis when it came to eventual post graduation.
  4. 7 points
    Waiting... https://imgur.com/t/waiting/BN5VqBS
  5. 7 points
    GUYS. I couldn’t be happier, and shocked, to be posting this.... but I was accepted today! cGPA with drops: 84.5 LSAT: 161 Index: 91.2 (sorry if admin believes this is extraneous) but I called admissions mid-February and was told I was very very high on the waitlist and would hear before end of March. She mentioned they had read my personal statement, so perhaps they aren’t all numbers. Either way, so so happy! Accepted already, the deadline to accept was April 2.
  6. 7 points
    Accepted Today(March 15), In queue since November 16. cGPA 3.98 LSAT 160
  7. 7 points
    Tête haute tout le monde! Félicitation à ceux qui ont reçu un deuxième appel, vous avez travailler fort et vous y être presque. Pour les ''déçus'' ce soir, c'est le temps de se trouver une job d'été DÈS maintenant, je sais que c'est rough, mais laissez pas les blues vous détourner de belles opportunités cet été. Il y a plein d'employeur dans différent milieu qui recherche des jeunes aussi dynamique que vous. Les belles jobs qui agrémente votre C.V ne se trouve pas au mois de Mai ou de Juin. C'est plus facile de curé son blues post-course avec une job à 25$/h qu'en coupant des gazon à 14$/h ou vendre du couvre-plancher au Rona pour 11,50$/h. Pour les deuxièmes années, Il y a toujours l'année prochaine! Continuer de travailler fort! Les efforts portes généralement fruit. - Gros love
  8. 7 points
    LSAT: 175 CGPA: 3.5 (strong upward trend) Weak softs, decent PS Likely going to Western
  9. 7 points
    The people that say that are generally law student hopefuls that have nothing to base that opinion on other than outdated news articles from before there where any TRU grads to judge. TRU students hold their own at all the Moots they participate in, our OCI hiring rates are on par with other law schools across Canada, our articling rates are on par with UBC and UVic. TRU produces capable lawyers just like every other law school in canada. Canada does not have a firm tier structure like the states does for law school and people need to stop trying to make it that way, its not how it works here. TRU has a holistic application process, which means that people with lower stats do have a better chance to get in but those lower stats will need to be countered with some other reason for the person to be admitted, something that proves you are still capable of performing at the level of the people with stronger stats. So while yes the school is more accessible to people with lower stats you really need to bring some else to the table if you want in. There is one major issue with TRU and that is the lack of notable alumni, which is due to the lack of graduates that have been in the workforce long enough to become partners at major firms. Also the tuition is high, I could do without that.
  10. 7 points
    I turned down this offer earlier today. Thank you all for your input.
  11. 6 points
    Done it a zillion times... nothing yet. Jeeze, people, just send me the rejection letter already 😛
  12. 6 points
    Thank you!!!! I completely agree with everything you said. I have not been accepted to UNB yet but hearing people bash people’s stats that are around the same as mine hurts. Just because my stats aren’t as high is not an indicator of my intelligence. I have a high gpa but the LSATs were hard for me. I took it three times and studied as hard as I could while being a student athlete working 20+ hours a week, going to class 15+ hours, practising 20+ hours a week and traveling every Sunday though Tuesday from August until May every year. My hard work should not be put down because I was unable to make a 160+ on standardized test. If UNB decides that then it’s fine. But it’s not for a random bitter person to decide. I am sorry you are disappointed that you haven’t been accepted yet. UNB is literally the only school I have chance of getting accepted too. Your stats are spectacular and I envy it. But you’ve been accepted to other schools and I haven’t been. It sucks not being accepted to the one school you want to go to but it also sucks not being accepted to any school. We are all trying our best. In my case coming from one of the provinces with “reserved spots” I have a law firm the has already told me they will hire me and all I have to do it get accepted and graduate. Where I’m from not a huge number of students are going to law school and not many people want to move there to work. I want to live there and work for the rest of my life. Where I’m from depends on some of these seats to guarantee that we’ll have enough lawyers working in the private and public sector. Even with those, most law firms are hiring and so is the government.
  13. 6 points
    If I had a dollar every time I heard an argument about how the Maritimes behave because of transfer payments I wouldn't even need to apply to law school. Also, quick LSAT practice, what must be assumed to make Clevermoose's argument correct? A) That UNB isn't taking outside applicants. B) Charging a higher rate for applications will help locals. C) Where someone is from has no bearing on application merit. D) Federal tax law is determined by one of the smallest provinces in the country. E) All of the above.
  14. 6 points
    OLSAS CGPA: 3.47 L2: 3.5 LSAT: 155, 152, 155 There is hope out there!
  15. 6 points
    I received the Meet & Greet email yesterday. Prior to that I was on the waitlist. I spoke with someone on admissions today and they let me know that I was actually accepted yesterday! Apparently it just takes time for the emails/updates to come out.
  16. 6 points
    Accepted this morning. CGPA 3.42(WES), LSAT 153 (Nov), 157 (Jan). Feeling Ecstatic!!!
  17. 5 points
    You aren't the first person to ask this...have a look at the other threads on this exact topic. It is also difficult to generalize what works for one person to other people or often to even know why one person is doing well and others aren't. I did well in law school, have read a million exams and talked to those students about them, and even I find it difficult to always know why some succeed and others don't. That being said, here's my top...probably more than 5 but less than 10 list. 1. Get your ducks in a row before you start school. Go to the dentist, learn to type quickly, etc. But don't spend time stressing about law school before it starts. 2. Don't listen to other people. Lots of people humblebrag about how little they are working and yet how well they are doing. Half of them are exaggerating and the other half are just somehow infuriatingly good at law school. Other people will go on and on about how many hours they are working for and you will feel stressed about the fact that you weren't at the library as long. Many of those people spent the majority of that time wasting time on the internet. 3. Eventually you might find that you can get by with skipping certain classes or readings, but start out doing as much of the work as you possibly can until you figure out what works. 4. DO PRACTICE EXAMS BEFORE THE REAL THING. 5. You might not be good at writing exams under time constraints. This will make first year difficult, but don't let it discourage you. In 2L and 3L you can do papers, moots, classes with assignments, etc. 6. If you don't understand something, go see your professors. If you did poorly on an exam, go see your professors. 7. Don't just bring your 75 or 100 or whatever page set of notes into the exam, regardless of how well tabbed it is. You also need a shorter version of your notes with just the key information. This will help you move through the exams quickly.
  18. 5 points
    At this point I think the idea of "reserved seats" is hearsay considering that none of the schools have outright said that they hold x number of seats for students from provinces/territories A, B, C; they have at most stated that there is a preference. In Ontario there are five law schools that I can think of off the top of my head, so the schools that have a preference for students without law schools in their home province are hardly a threat to students from Ontario who not only have plenty of choice but also a multitude of exclusive scholarships and funding opportunities that students from away don't get to enjoy. It's all give and take. Regardless of all this, some advice: You might yet get in to UNB, so there's no point speculating about admissions statistics, dashed hopes, and wasted money. I would caution you against disparaging other people's successes just because their scores are lower than yours and you feel entitled to an offer you might not even accept. Once you're in law school, none of these numbers will matter. What will matter is how well you're able to get along with your cohort, and if you're in a class with only 92 peolple and think that many of them got in because of a Maritime connection and not because they merited their admission, that small class size might turn out to be more of a curse than a blessing. Whether you intended it or not, you're coming off as resentful and jealous, and that's not a great attitude to have if you plan to make connections. If you really want to go to UNB, be happy for all the people who have gotten in so far no matter where they're from or what their scores are, because you could be classmates come September.
  19. 5 points
    @clevermoose @NovemberRain In Ontario, Bora Laskin prefers students with a Northern Ontario connection. If you look at medical schools, Western has a preference towards SWOMEN students Northern Ontario School of Medicine prefers students who have a connection to Northern Ontario. Therefore, these practices exist in exclusive professional programs in Ontario as well. Such admissions biases are put in place to equalize access to education and socioeconomic barriers that exist due to geography. They also exist to increase the likelihood that students will give back to an identifiably disadvantaged local community that has been perceived as being lacking in professionally-trained residents who can boost the economy and local services. Furthermore, there are spots for individuals across all universities for access, mature and Indigenous claims. Are these practice perfect equalizing policies? No, but I would argue that they help.
  20. 5 points
    It's right there under the admissions categories: "The use of a regional preference in the selection process recognizes UNB Law’s ties to the Atlantic region. It is not intended to discourage national and international applicants. On the contrary, UNB consciously fosters diversity in its student body, including geographical and cultural diversity. A number of offers are reserved for residents of New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador and Prince Edward Island. " (https://www.unb.ca/fredericton/law/admissions/first-year/admissions-categories.html) So you can hardly be surprised that they actually put their regional preference to use. I would caution the use of the word "discriminatory" in this circumstance. There may be a heavier weight placed on regional ties than other schools, but UNB is by no means exclusive. People from outside of the Maritimes have gotten admitted in the past and will continue to get admitted into the future, and I think that crying "discrimination" is a slippery slope towards diminishing the effects that actual discrimination can have on a group or a community. EDIT: And I'd like to add, again, that there's no reason to believe the out-of-province applicants who have posted here won't be admitted. You just haven't been admitted yet. Take a step back for a few minutes and breathe.
  21. 5 points
    In determining whether UNB and Dal should lower their entrance requirements for Atlantic Canadians, the relevant question is whether (i) the region is actually underserved and (ii) whether that admissions policy will put more lawyers in the underserved regions. On point (i) yeah, many parts of Canada are underserved. Maybe not Halifax overall, but lots of different places are starving for either general counsel or certain types of lawyers. As I understand it, the problem is attracting and retaining lawyers in rural areas and, to some extent, retaining lawyers in the cities. The theory is basically that local candidates, are more likely to stay and work in the region. They have personal connections, emotional attachments, and for many, it is their home. Outside candidates may decide to stay, but rural practitioners I’ve talked to all seem to have a story of a student or new associate who claimed to want to settle down in Wherever Bay or Somewhere Brook and then, boom, when they got to their second year of practice and were profitable, they moved back to the city. First of all, whether a region is underserved can’t be measured by the number of articling positions available or by quoting a couple of interviews with graduates and lawyers in Canada. Is the lower admissions thing perfect? No. As you point out, there’s still a problem with getting some of those candidates licensed – those rural, small firms and solo practitioners in underserved areas often don’t have the budgetary flexibility to train new lawyers. Would that be solved by just making less Atlantic Canadian lawyers? Also, no. I think the admissions policy probably helps on balance, and that other incentives and funding would be needed to ensure that new calls and articling students end up in the underserved areas being targeted. The posts here are obviously self-serving. And that’s fine, everyone serves themselves. But I’m not going to pretend they’re good policy, just because you’d like a better shot at more schools. Atlantic schools and Halifax firms shouldn’t be a farm league to train future Toronto and Vancouver lawyers. We’re talking about schools supported by public funds in have-not provinces. Lets not pretend that this is some equality issue, where you’re being horribly discriminated against by UNB and Dal -- being from Ontario or somewhere is not really a ground for discrimination. But they’ve chosen to make their local legal markets a priority, and I really see nothing wrong with that.
  22. 5 points
    I'm in off the waitlist. cgpa: 3.18 L2: 3.7 LSAT: 156 (highest) Good luck to those still waiting!
  23. 5 points
    Like many things in life, not all these decisions are about numbers. You don't know what their ECs or references were like, so you can't say that they only got in over you because of the Maritime connection. I suppose you're entitled to your frustration and anxiety because waiting for decisions is the pits, but the waitlist for UNB doesn't come out until July so it's not over yet.
  24. 5 points
    I politely disagree. On an aggregate and economic level, geographic locations need a certain number of lawyers in their bar association, and I assume there is a lack of lawyers on the east coast.
  25. 5 points
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2114829618600547/ here guys
  26. 5 points
    Got the call this morning: 3.7 167 Does anyone know how long it normally takes to get the follow up email?
  27. 5 points
    Got the call this morning Congrats everyone!! 3.4/173
  28. 5 points
    Start with your most recent work experience and go backwards. If you have done any seminars or presented or authored any papers as a lawyer add them here. Then your legal education. Include (briefly) anything from law school like: -Legal Aid Clinic intake worker -Junior Editor of Law Review - Lebel Moot (runner up 2017) Then your undergrad. Note your major and any outstanding awards or experiences. This should be a kind of reverse pyramid: most detail with work experience, middling with school, and very little with undergrad. You are getting hired as a professional - not as a student. This is the difference: as a lawyer you sell your experience, not your potential. Lean on the little experience you have far more than anything else. Up to you if you include non law jobs. If you have two years or fewer legal experience, or something relevant to the specific industry that involves this area of law, maybe include. Otherwise don’t. Your resume should never never go past two pages. MY resume is fewer than two pages and I have been at this law job application game for fifteen plus years now. Good luck.
  29. 4 points
    See folks classic crazy Marxist students You be careful to what you say or I'll take your OSAP away!
  30. 4 points
    Yeee. Call your law society and talk to a bencher. You do not want to make this call based on anonymous internet advice. Since you are a lawyer in your own right you do not want to leave this one up to the partner. If shit hits the fan and you made the wrong call he will not be an adequate shield. Do your due diligence and make the call and take notes of what you told them, what they told you, names and dates - and keep those notes.
  31. 4 points
    Just got the email! cGPA: 3.52 LSAT: 156 Not surprised, but damn, that email oddly made me feel good inside? It was a nice way to be rejected
  32. 4 points
    The starting point of your analysis ought to be that all obligations are owed to your clients, not the partner. Right now it seems like you have that completely reversed.
  33. 4 points
    Alrighty, sorry guys! Here is the new group link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2342552566030217/ . The Common Law Student Society had to make a new one! Join away
  34. 4 points
    You can't change your GPA but you can change your LSAT so focus on that. If you think it will take you a long time before you can improve your score, you can look for a job in the meantime. I am currently working full-time and studying for the LSAT. My GPA is lower than yours so the chances of me getting into the law school I want is near impossible unless I get a really good score. I felt defeated and stressed as well. However, because I have a job it doesn't feel like I'm just sitting here doing nothing/just waiting. Everyone gets into law school and finishes law school at their own pace. Finishing law school earlier than someone else doesn't determine your career or your future either. Don't feel like you need to chase after it and get into as fast as the others. I read a guy on here took the LSAT six(?) times before getting into the school he wanted. Take your time. Work on it at your own pace and keep yourself busy with other things if it's taking longer than you expected.
  35. 4 points
    In today as well, no email yet. Applied access. CGPA: 3.3 L2: 3.7 LSAT: 172 P.S. The whole process of applying to law school has been super stressful. I just want to thank everyone on this forum. I'm sure I would have blown a gasket if I didn't have you guys as a resource
  36. 4 points
    There are relatively few criminal lawyers who have anything approaching a client base of almost exclusively private (or cash) clients. Of those few, they employ not a lot of associates. I would imagine the few associates who work in these practices are relatively well-paid by the standards of criminal defence - which is to say in the same range as other, non-Bay associates at a similar year of call. Maybe around $60-80k in their first year, with predictable raises from there. If you actually have a job at such a place, could yourself lucky and keep it for a while, if you can. If you don't, then your question is incredibly premature, presumptuous, and self-deceptive. AD is giving you the best answer available, about the practice area as a whole. You're likely to be self-employed, if you stay in criminal defence for any length of time at all. You want to be self-employed as your goal, for anything past the immediate short-term. Asking about the area of practice any other way isn't only a waste of everyone's time, it also draws attention to the fact that you don't "get it" in any meaningful way. And that's not a good look for a young lawyer. So when you ask the wrong question, and people direct you back to the questions you should be asking instead, you probably want to take the correction and adjust.
  37. 4 points
    Accepted this morning! Gpa: 3.28 LSAT: 160
  38. 4 points
    I'm a 1L from Ontario attending Dal now. Many of my classmates are from Atlantic Canada (54%), and many of them are not from the Halifax area. If Truro or Cape Breton are dying for lawyers, who do you think is more likely to go to those regions: the person from Truro or Cape Breton, or the person from Ontario who doesn't even know where those places are? Well said.
  39. 4 points
    Just got in off the waitlist! 3.24 160 great references, tons of volunteering Good luck to everyone!
  40. 4 points
    Accepted from waitlist today. 3.25 cGPA, 3.6 L2, 160 LSAT Received meet and greet invitation this week but I was told (by someone on admissions) that didn't mean anything.
  41. 4 points
    Received my acceptance today. Accepted off the waitlist. Cgpa: 3.05, L2: 3.81 LSAT: 162
  42. 4 points
    I'd make it but i hate facebook and everything about it. twitter is where the memes are made
  43. 4 points
    I'm a lawyer and I have PhD. It was also fully funded (in Canada, not international). For myself, if I had to do it again I would not go and get my PhD again. I always said that if I knew straight out of undergrad (or at the end of my M.Sc) that I wanted to do law, I would have gone straight into it from there. My research was cool and it's nice when my wife calls me "doctor" - but I still feel like those were kind of wasted/really useless years of my life. An experimental based PhD can be the most frustrating thing to finish EVER. For me it constituted years of banging my head against the wall because I had an experiment that took a month to complete with what felt like a thousand steps, but I couldn't figure out which one wasn't working (yes, I eventually did figure it out *go me!* and it did get published - but man that glory was not worth the torture). A year and a half into it and I knew academia wasn't for me. I had many post-doc offers from some pretty incredible Universities (think Ivy league and well established schools over seas) but decided that wasn't the career path for me, and I wanted to get onto what I knew I wanted to be doing. Now. The PhD has come in a little handy when I was looking for IP jobs (both in law school and after being called). But you already have an M.Sc so if your goal is to get into IP, you've already got the degree to back you up. The PhD could definitely help you, but it's not going to make or break your chances. If you are on the fence, and you think that you could still want to pursue an academic career - then go for it! But, if you're already convinced that your career lies in law - then why waste 4-6 years of your life doing something that will have little bearing on getting you to your goal? Age should not be the factor you consider - but make the decision based on what you want to be doing in 10 years. If the answer is law, then the choice is a no brainer.
  44. 4 points
    Can't say I have ever been a full prof - but I've taught a course or two in my time. And I have lawyered for a great deal of time and this statement rings true. Mostly because if someone is so passionate about something that they would dedicate however many thousands of hours to its study, so good at something that others are willing to pay so that that person will come to a better understanding of that thing..... maybe that is their role in life. What is it about law that makes everyone think it will be soooo amazing? Look I like my job, but there is rarely a gathering of older fogies of the profession (when the youngen's aren't around) that doesn't at some time include a discussion of some peer who made his or her "great escape" and is now "living the life". - you know farming goats, bar in the Caribbean... dog catcher. Could be that this is true for all professions, but my wife is in medicine and you never hear her colleagues pining for escape (again maybe they only do it in their closed circle).
  45. 4 points
    I was a keener and literally read every assigned reading (and some supplementals) in 1L. Made my own summaries. Still never had to camp out in the library. If these guys are camping out in the school in 2L/3L then I'm even more concerned. Then they're REALLY doing it wrong. LOL @FoG Keep in mind that many of the people you see "grinding away" in the library are actually scrolling through IG and Fb every 10 mins and are wasting time.
  46. 4 points
    Admitted as of this morning, March 14th. LSAT: 174 cGPA: 3.57 B3: 3.63 Upward trend, weak softs. Will be accepting.
  47. 4 points
    Admitted. 13/March/2019 International student - 3.8/169
  48. 4 points
    Fc offers are still going out
  49. 4 points
    Just got the call also. 164 (wrote in January), UK undergrad (converts to ~3.8 GPA), decent ECs, didn't see LORs Just got Osgoode yesterday also, probably accepting this instead
  50. 4 points
    Just got the call. 167/3.8 (cGPA and B3)
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