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  1. 6 points
    When you transfer out, you need to have a clear explanation for your decision and ambitions to avoid looking like some aimless nomad who won't commit to the program. So when you apply to other schools, make sure you are very clear that with your 1L pedigree you expect to stand out from your classmates; that your admission at UofT and your experiences there will make you a top candidate for leadership in the student body given the higher admissions standards and superior instruction. I'd suggest you attach a copy of the Maclean's ranking, and maybe print out copies of the recent lawstudents.ca Accepted threads from both schools. You should also send these, along with a copy of your transfer application, to the ECs you might want to run next year such as student newspapers, law journal, clinics, etc.
  2. 3 points
    @diplock has requested that this post be added. I think it's likely to be helpful.
  3. 2 points
    This is yet another reminder that more than one account isn't allowed here. And when you start replying to yourself, well, that's just weird.
  4. 2 points
    Live and learn is a very common saying and is not from a tort case. You have no idea that you would have gotten a better grade in that class had you devoted a different amount to studying for that exam. You may very well have received the same grade. @Diplock is a poster on this forum who doesn't mince words and has a knack for putting people in their place in a manner that is entertaining for everyone.
  5. 2 points
    You need to chill out. I will let others advise on the career stuff, but you won't necessarily get better grades at another school. You will probably just get a bunch of Bs just like most other people.
  6. 1 point
    These threads collectively show the psychological impact of merciless 1st gen parents.
  7. 1 point
    This is correct. Lawyers are only considered a first year associate until the end of the firms calendar year, at that point they become second year associates and receive a raise from the $82K - $85K to $100K - $105K (variance depending on firm.
  8. 1 point
    This whole thread is just ridiculous.
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    I truly wasn't kidding last night when I said this was the kind of discussion that would drag down everyone engaged in it, including (now) myself. But the relentlessly optimistic part of myself that believes a well-reasoned argument can possibly reach anyone compels me to try all the same. @Newfoundland - I don't know if anyone is saying this properly, or that you'll receive it well, but the basic point of the answers you're getting is it. You're asking about trivial things, and/or obsessing on things you can't control, and scratching for hints and signs about how "the system" works so you can more reliably operate within it, but the best answer to most of your questions truly is that you need to calm down. The trivialities don't matter. Things that you can't control shouldn't be the focus of your attention because, well, you can't control them. And the reason there's no clear answers on how "the system" works is because "the system" is a collection of individual, eclectic decision-makers doing things for their individual, eclectic reasons. Even talking all OCI employers, or all employers period, in a sentence, is irrational. They don't operate with one mind. General observations about observable trends ... okay, those can make sense. Hard rules? Never. So I'm going to repeat the most essential advice you need right now. Your attitude, and your anxiety, are far far bigger issues right now than the questions that are motivating your attitude or the issues that are prompting your anxiety. The idea that you're considering ditching law school entirely if you aren't competitive for big firm OCIs ... that's nonsense on its face. Whatever happens at OCIs, you'll still have plenty of opportunities ahead of you. But what causes people to burn those opportunities when they come around is overwhelmingly not the lack of one specific grade, or the formatting of a cover letter - it's personality and attitude. If you come off like a nut, no one will want to help you, hire you, or work with you. Meanwhile, if you come across like a sane, rational, and personable individual, the little things that you think are going to hurt you won't matter to anyone. Anyway, that's me trying. I feel like I'm throwing a pebble in front of a landslide right now. But what can I say - I'm a lawyer and I believe in the power of a few well-crafted words. In all events, good luck.
  10. 1 point
    Here's a thought: do you actually want to do labour and employment law?
  11. 1 point
    Thank you for that introduction. This whole discussion is stupid. It's not even stupid in an interesting way, where one person is inviting correction so obviously that it's fun to slap them down. It's just low-grade stupidity that infuses everything said here, and indicts everyone participating in it. I feel stupider myself, as I type this. @OP - Calm the hell down. Seriously. Some anxiety is normal, but anxiety to the point that you're hanging on every ridiculous and unsupportable thing that anyone else has ever said to you about grades is just sad. Every practicing lawyer has had a client like you - someone who asks twelve other people about whatever thing is going on with their legal situation and then needs to have a conversation about whatever that person has just told them, whether it's ignorant, informed, sane, or complete nonsense. Anxiety that drives you to do this isn't healthy. Get basic information, apply common sense, and stop there. In this case, that would lead to the conclusion that no one can offer you any certainty regarding the outcome of job applications you haven't made yet, so just apply to jobs you want and hope for the best. What the hell else could there possibly be? @Everyone Else - Stupid 1Ls are gonna be stupid 1Ls. It's fine to have at least a bit of fun critiquing their anxiety, but there's no need to dig back into every life choice they've made to get to this point. At some point it's just done. @OP Again - Some of the superfluous observations here may be worth thinking about all the same. Your need to over-complicate decision-making isn't doing you any favors. Do as well as you can in your classes, seek the jobs you're interested in, etc. Do your best, see where that gets you, and reevaluate as needed. It isn't necessarily easy. You're in competition with some very talented people at this point. But it is uncomplicated. Stop looking for secrets, codes, and patterns that aren't there. Now everyone go to bed.
  12. 1 point
    The context is that apps are due on Monday and I was told today that I needed a HH and my grades didn't stand a chance. Someone in my cohort who even read my app told me it's best if I left law school because I would not stand a chance (and he knows my goal is corporate law) I am not sure what the letter grade conversion is but a P is 45-100% bottom of the course and H is the top 10/15 to 45%
  13. 1 point
    Let’s all calm down and have some humility here. It’s 12:40 on Saturday night and we’re arguing on the internet about law jobs, so we’re all losers here. I’m several drinks and and may have got lost somewhere but is OP asking if s/he can get an OCI job with 2 Bs and the rest B+ from U of T? I’m old and went to U of T back when we had letter grades so I may be wrong about the conversion but if I’m right the answer is yes, you can. Everybody be cool! 😎
  14. 1 point
    I don't want to be that guy, but literally we have a professor, upper year law students, and lawyers on here trying to make a 1L student feel better; the OP's tactic is simply to dismiss everything being said here and engage in circular reasoning. This is a classic case of someone who needs to live and learn. Let them apply broadly and see what happens. Can't turn back the clock now. Edit: Newfoundland, this may come as a shock to you, but there are people going to law school for more than the chance to land a student position at a large corporate/commercial firm. A number of medalists and clerks I know went into litigation boutiques and practice areas like criminal, aboriginal, and immigration. Sounds like you may have gone to law school for the wrong reasons. Only you can answer that.
  15. 1 point
    The vast majority of your statements in this thread are factually wrong. Are you trolling here? If not, it's pretty embarrassing that you got an H even with this display of logic.
  16. 1 point
    Starting afresh at another school on the assumption that you would get better grades and thus have better job prospects would be truly stupid. Leaving the profession entirely isn't something that people can answer for you. As for your "as I said earlier", this conversation would be much easier to follow if you hadn't spread it across multiple threads. They don't have the same class sizes. Around 210 versus around 290 last time I heard. How many of those students applied for jobs is also relevant. Huh? No, for OCIs you aren't only competing against others from your school. That doesn't make sense. Your examples of single law firms in single years mean nothing at all. I'm sure that in other years those numbers were completely different. It is way too small a sample size to draw any conclusions from. To echo the previous poster, no one cares about worldwide prestige.
  17. 1 point
    I think as long as it’s on one page, used 11/12 font and has a bit of white space it’s probably fine. Don’t over think it
  18. 1 point
    Hi everyone, I've been trying to determine some of the items that law students would consider to be useful or even necessary for a smooth law school experience. I figure that I'll need things like a good laptop and maybe a well fitted suit but aside from that does anyone have any recommendations? It could be anything from a worthwhile pricey splurge to a 5 dollar item that makes life a little easier. I look forward to your feedback!
  19. 1 point
    Thanks, Mate! That was super helpful. I really appreciate it, as I'm sure others do as well.
  20. 1 point
    I was going to make the Adderall joke too, when I saw this post haha But for real, don't take medication that is not prescribed (but you know this) As for focus, this is what helped me: 1- Drilling under timed conditions 2- Do not have your phone with you. Leave it at home. Turn it off. Leave it in charging pods (my university has a charging pod where you can charge your phone). 3- Do not have your computer or electronics with you when you are doing PTs. 4- Do not get up in the middle of a section. 5- If you are having trouble at first, this is normal. I felt like my brain was burning up when I was doing my PTs. I couldn't get through 1 single section when I started. Granted, I actually do have ADHD, so it took me the entire day to go through half the exam. I can PROMISE you that now I can sort-of finish the exam in the allocated time. A HUGE improvement for me. Stamina will come with *time* and *practice*, so do not give up. Sit down and force yourself. 6- Summarize the argument. Either in your head, or in the margins. What is the conclusion and the premises? I find writing forces you to read. Aim for 10 words. 7- Do not eat, drink, or chew gum while you are studying because this is not allowed on test day (I always chew gum while I study - big mistake as you are not allowed during the exam) 8- If your brain is going numb, move on to the next question. Then return to it. 9- Practice with 5 sections, NOT 4! 10- After each sentence, try to pause and re-tell yourself what you just read. It is so scary to get to the end of the paragraph and you're just like WTF did I just read? Like you hadn't absorbed anything. Thats how I feel at least. 11- PAPER I realize the test is digital now so you may be adamant about using paper copies, but I find it MUCH easier to start with paper, then practice using the digital versions once you are good with paper. I also use a Color-coordinating system where pink is premise and yellow is conclusion. 12- Sections When I started, I NEVER started with LG, because LG are like the mental break for me, so I did it in between the LRs and did RC last because that is brutal. This helps me focus. Now I do it in order. 13 - Pencils - get HB2 pencils. They are horrific to write with, but you can only use those one the exam. I realize this is not really a focus tip, just an LSAT tip. It is so easy to get discouraged by this exam. This exam is a mental marathon. But practice does make perfect. Take all the time you need at first, and then do timed PTs after you know your core stuff well. Start with 2 hours, then 1.5, then 1, then 35 minutes, then 30 (so you have an "extra 5" on the exam). DO NOT GVE UP. If I can do it, you can too! I hope this helps!
  21. 1 point
    When I was in law school, I drank it as fast as I bought it. No need for a rack.
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  23. 1 point
    Buy a book stand. Metal, wood, doesn't matter. They make them for iPads too if you're an all-digital type of person. It's a nice quality of life upgrade to have something to prop up whatever you're reading at eye level so you don't have to hunch over your desk.
  24. 1 point
    Hands down the most useful book I have read thus far is Nathan Fox's Introducing the LSAT. The PowerScore books are useful resources but some of their advice is not the greatest in my opinion. I have been listening to the Thinking LSAT Podcast as well as using the LSAT Demon to study which has improved my score dramatically in 1.5months of studying. Currently Nathan Fox's books The Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia and The Logic Games Playbook are both on order. I will give an update on those two books once I have read them, but from watching his video explanations on the Demon and the Podcast I think the books will likely be my favourite resources.
  25. 1 point
    I think it's more common during articles.
  26. 1 point
    Yes I am satisfied with life, 9 years out of law school. In addition to work I make a real effort to stay connected with old friends and attend social events. I’m happy with my income, over 200, but I work too much. I advise people not to do it for the money but can’t take my own advice. Doing litigation problems keep coming up and people keep throwing money at me to fix those problems. I measure money in terms of the vacations it could buy but I just never get around to taking the vacation. I don’t think I’d choose to be a lawyer again given a second life because I’ve already done it. I’ve accomplished pretty much everything I set out to do, other than argue before the SCC. But if I went back in time of course I would do it again because I needed money and liked to argue. Other jobs I may have been happier in include actor or musician. I guess it’s not too late to switch.
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