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  1. 18 points
    CRYING AS I WRITE THIS: I AM FINALLY ACCEPTED AFTER REJECTION AND REJECTION LAST YEAR L2: 3.83 LSAT: 151 ALOT OF WORK EXPERIENCE SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS
  2. 13 points
    ACCEPTED TODAY!!!!! Best day of my life. GPA 3.52 L2 3.6 LSAT 157 I want to thank everyone on this forum. without the people helping me here, I definitely never would have made it this far. I cannot believe this is happening. LIFE IS GOOD
  3. 12 points
    I am happy to be officially writing this after a 3-year grind.... I'm in! LSAT: 155, GPA: ~3.7/4.33 Great PS, good references, decent work and volunteering experience.
  4. 11 points
    This thread is whack. @ArchivesandMuseums is the only person making any sense here. Guys, being average in one stat and low in another doesn't make you a "splitter." To be a "spitter" you need to actually be decently above the curve in one respect to offset your other stat being low. A 163 LSAT and a low GPA does not make you a splitter. A 163 is below or around the median of a bunch of Canadian schools. Ditto a 3.7 or 3.8 GPA and a low LSAT score. Again, that's a median GPA for many Canadian law schools. Ottawa is notorious for caring about GPA far more and LSAT far less than other Canadian schools. So yes, it will favour "splitters," but only in one direction, really. Ryerson frankly just accepts people with mediocre stats across the board. There are plenty of people with 3.barelyanything AND low 150's LSATs being accepted there. I wouldn't say that's the same as being splitter-friendly.
  5. 10 points
    Congrats man! I remember when you were worried about getting into any Canadian law schools and considering England as a backup option. A perfect example of succeeding through hard work and perseverance.
  6. 7 points
    The prairies are not really fit for human habitation in any event, IMO.
  7. 6 points
    Never thought I'd be writing this, but BOOM - Accepted (just now basically). LSAT 165 GPA Miserable (3 or less). Will be accepting! Good luck to those still waiting and there is always hope!
  8. 5 points
    Accepted today on student centre! General. CGPA: 3.56 L2: 3.7 LSAT: 159 strong and diverse EC’s and references
  9. 5 points
    Sorry but a 157 is not a “solid” score. It’s the 70th percentile, which means 30% of people who took the exam scored higher than you. Now the score makes you admissible to a number of schools depending on your GPA, but I would argue anything under 160 is, on its own, not a very impressive score.
  10. 5 points
    Accepted today as of 9 am this morning! Very surprised and happy. I was in queue since December 3rd. cGPA 3.99 LSAT 157
  11. 5 points
    Nothing to do with the pandemic. Some posters just suffer from a little learning - but since they’ve spent their whole lives being smarter than pretty much anyone around them (in high school, during undergrad) they get this idea that they are smarter than everyone, period. And this becomes painfully obvious when they decide to go on the internet to debate with people (especially those who actually know what they’re talking about). I think it’s a phase a lot of bright people go through. I am confident that after completing law school and maturing for another five years, most of us would look back on these kinds of interactions and cringe. (I am actually really grateful that my years in this stage were not recorded anywhere- so I say this as some one who absolutely went through it!)
  12. 4 points
    3L here. The response to your question is "not necessarily". McGill tends to send its admission offers later than other law faculties. For example, some of my colleagues were accepted in late May, June, despite having solid application files. Put differently, we're still relatively early in the admission process. Given COVID-19, it's reasonable to expect some additional delays. Consequently, I would not draw any negative inference yet. Good luck!
  13. 4 points
    In 99% of cases, you are better off with the single JD. The US JD comes from a bottom-ranked, overpriced institution, that will open very few additional doors than the single JD -- and of those additional doors, you probably have zero interest in any (the general US legal market is not good). Moreover, with the COVID-19 situation, you are more likely to experience interruptions because you need to cross the border, and you may very well end up stuck at some point. Keep in mind: of the good US law jobs, like NYC big law, one can practice there with a single Canadian JD. The dual JD isn't doing you favors if high-paying US jobs are your goal. The US JD is valuable for people looking to practice in fly-over states for 50k/yr. And if that's your goal, you're better off applying directly into an average US school (which will still be better ranked than Windsor's partner in Michigan). Don't waste your money!
  14. 4 points
    Absolutely shocked and didn’t think I was going to get in anytime soon... CGPA: 3.48 LSAT: 155, 159 Applied General. Thank you to everyone who have helped me and given me some hope about my chances. This forum has been extremely wonderful. I am leaning towards accepting
  15. 3 points
    Accepted today!!! cGPA 3.0 L2 3.81 LSAT 159 (Feb 2020) Applied general Good luck to everyone still waiting!!
  16. 3 points
    Received the email this morning! I've been in queue since December 19th. cGPA: 3.3, L2: 3.7 LSAT: 167 I filled out Part B, explaining two dismal academic semesters in my 3rd year of undergrad, indicating how I bounced back for my 4th academic year with the best grades of my degree. Also worked for 2 years post-undergrad in Big 4 consulting. Ecstatic and excited!
  17. 3 points
    Honestly, I'd probably take guaranteed articling over having a summer at this point. The way I look at it, if firms need to save cash right now in order to put themselves in a better financial position to be able to guarantee articling, then that's a trade I'm willing to make. My hunch is that the hire back rate for summer students into articling positions is not going to be the near 100% numbers for bay street that we're used to seeing. So considering articling is 10 months and firms will cover all licensing expenses, I'd be willing to give up the short term 4 months of cash if it meant I'd have an ariticling gig lined up.
  18. 3 points
    These JD/MBA discussions frustrate me because they are typically filled with people who have not done a JD/MBA. The JD/MBA is a powerful degree if you do it right. And, to do it right, you have to truly care about your MBA. More often than not, JD/MBA's view themselves as law students who are learning some business skills on the side. That is, they planned on doing a JD, and decided that they would tack on a few extra letters. Furthermore, most JD/MBA's are not ready for the math that comes with business school. This is because (1) the average JD/MBA student has a qualitative background; and (2) the admissions process was such that they did not have to do the GMAT (a test that forces you to learn some basic math). All of this has the following effect: JD/MBA's do not immerse themselves in the business school experience, and they do not push themselves in business school. Most JD/MBA's will take a bit of marketing, some economics, and maybe some leadership courses. Each business school has an abundance of "soft" courses that require little effort or thought. Most combined students avoid the rigorous accounting, finance, and operations electives, and they don't get involved with MBA clubs or case competitions. In effect, a lot of JD/MBA's just pass the time until they get back to their law school. This is obviously fine - different strokes for different folks - but, it limits the utility of your MBA. To leverage an MBA, you must challenge yourself. Where else will you learn how to price a derivative security, or learn M&A finance, or perform in-depth financial statement analysis? Moreover, getting the most out of your MBA means networking. This part is easy, since you will be surrounded by some of the most interesting people that you will ever meet. Overall, it's a very interesting and rewarding experience. The law students who throw themselves at both their JD and their MBA really stand out in all of the various recruits that will come and go. And, by the way, there are so many JD/MBA's these days that having an MBA is not an inherent edge in the law recruit. If you treat the JD/MBA as if it's a JD+, like most do, then you won't benefit much from your MBA. If you treat it like a JD and an MBA, then you will enjoy a lot of freedom in your career, and you will have a diverse skill set that will be helpful no matter where you land.
  19. 2 points
    In BC, your firm usually pays you for the entire year, including the 10 week PLTC course.
  20. 2 points
    To stick with the metaphor, most people are probably unconcerned with the difference when they are being bashed with it
  21. 2 points
    That's the thing, I've heard from many firms who say their business is fine (if not booming in certain sectors), it's just the remote work which is the issue. Summer students are there for such a short time (only 2.5 months at Loopstra, for example) that it isn't worth the hassle to get them onboarded virtually. But we'll see how it goes. Having been laid off by my firm but offered articling, I'm currently weighing my options. I'm not sure what I'll do.
  22. 2 points
    I got rejected. GPA 3.52 LSAT 157 What a day it has been accepted to my dream school today so I guess I could care less about this.
  23. 2 points
    There's a whole section describing ECs on my website. You may find some of this helpful:
  24. 2 points
    Clubs are kinda lame, to be honest. I've written extensively on this issue lately if you want to check out my post history. Volunteer work would be included, varsity sports, student government, etc. Hobbies are not extra-curricular activities, however. Every year a few people list weird things like video games or travelling or beer league sports of whatever, which are not ECs. I completely disagree with the previous poster that being a TA is an EC. That would go in the employment section of your application. Also, don't worry about the people on here claiming to have "strong ECs". They probably don't. They might be more involved than their friends who aren't trying to get into law school, but they tend to be pretty average by law school standards.
  25. 2 points
    I keep getting the same response from admissions. I asked twice about a month apart when the wait list would be notified and if more offers are being sent. It’s mid April and no wait list notifications have been sent yet. Judging by the activity on the forum not many offers have been sent in the last 3 weeks, but we also don’t know how many people are participating on the board. Last year they started waitlisting in January and it seems like a wave of acceptances was sent shortly after April 1. Anyways, I was told to keep being patient and that “decisions are still coming from committee.” They won’t divulge any more information so sitting around waiting is the only thing we can do.
  26. 2 points
    the parent that doesn't give praise
  27. 2 points
    Accepted today! General Applicant - Wrote the LSAT in February 2020 CGPA - 3.32 L2 - 3.86 LSAT - 159 Hope this gives some hope to those of you with lower CGPA's! Accepted the offer and looking forward to seeing everyone in September!
  28. 2 points
    I feel bad for Windsor's students. Perhaps time will prove me wrong but I suspect Windsor will have record low success in the upcoming Toronto recruit. What happens when a first year Windsor student with all Ps is compared with a student at Queen's, for instance, with a normal distribution of Bs with one or two As? Forcing a mandatory p/f system for moot courses is just a slap in the face for the students who forwent easier semesters for a moot.
  29. 2 points
    McGill students don't leave the island except to go back to Toronto.
  30. 2 points
    I don't think it's fair to qualify moot grades as "easy" As. Personally, I put more work into a moot in which I participated in school than any other class during my entire post-secondary education. It also worked out that if I had been forced to take a mandatory p/f for all work done in second semester, I would have had a single grade for the entire year. The sword of equity swings violently all ways.
  31. 2 points
    You can't expect to be taken seriously when you suggest an informal reference letter is equivalent to a high course grade.
  32. 2 points
    Can I assume LSAC will be providing computers and paying for home internet for those who have to write the LSAT at home?
  33. 2 points
    I got into Osgoode, Western, Ryerson, and Ottawa and am a splitter. cGPA 3.99 and LSAT 157.
  34. 2 points
    Just clarifying. So, you'd move despite courses being administered online? Why move that early? I am going by the assumption that rent would be higher where ever you are moving to. I want classes to be in-person, but my gut is telling me there is a 70% chance it will be online. They will open restaurants and theaters in tandem with social distancing policies to ameliorate our deteriorating economy. However, I don't think universities will be considered as essential enough to open for economy's sake. On side note, anyone think we will get a tuition discount if first semester is held online? @ProfReader
  35. 2 points
    I'd like to know what happened in 2012 and 2013...
  36. 2 points
    Hey there, I have heard that first year is "horrible". Did you find this to be the case? Is the workload as bad as it is made out to be? Also, what did the typical day look like for you?
  37. 2 points
    Just got the 300$ in my account today! I was really starting to feel nervous about this whole thing 😅
  38. 2 points
    Oh, please. I'm not going to take it easy on a 0L who calls people "naive" for offering a perfectly good explanation. If someone else is speaking about a topic with authority and you disagree, then say that without calling them naive and deeming a mere clarification as "ridiculous".
  39. 1 point
    UBC's career services guide currently lists criminal defence articling salaries in Van (one of the most expensive cities in the country) at a range of $24k-$36k/year (and this was listed pre-COVID). $50k/year for articling in crim defence is huge and you'd only get that at a shop focused pretty much exclusively on traffic stuff or the kind of elite boutique crim firms that hire gold medalists and SCC clerks and represent celebrities. Basically no crim defence firms that do the standard bread-and-butter crim work with a lot of legal aid files pay articling students $50k. It absolutely would be detrimental to state that as a salary expectation.
  40. 1 point
    Thanks for the uplifting message. These boards are great. Law students (and future law students) are the best
  41. 1 point
    This is definitely a valid and important point. But I don't think it addresses the vast majority of Windsor students actually affected here.
  42. 1 point
    Personally, I don't really care how much work you put into something. The purpose of a curve is to measure relative performance. Working hard doesn't just negate the need or want of an employer to compare you to your classmates. If I'm ever hiring, I will definitely want to know what grades were uncurved and what grades were curved. If I want to measure how hard you worked in a class, I'll ask you about it in your interview, or ask my colleagues from that school.
  43. 1 point
    Ok you completely convinced me to just accept the single hahaha I'm so glad I made this post. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to help me out!! Please stay safe!
  44. 1 point
  45. 1 point
    Accepted today! 3.736/4.3 with drops. 156 LSAT
  46. 1 point
    I too have been struggling with whether to pursue the JD/MBA at Osgoode/Schulich. While I've also gotten into Queen's and Western for my JD (rejected by UofT), and although those schools' MBA programs are better than Schulich's, I've ruled them out because I really favor Osgoode. For me, I have several years of varied and progressive work experience in professional positions. However, I lack academic business background (BCom or equiv.) -- everything I know about business is what I learned via my work. This is where I see the MBA adding the most value for me, giving me a solid foundation along with a form of attestation (three letters) to put under my name. With that said, from reading many of the JD/MBA posts on this website, I also recognize the MBA probably won't pay immediate dividends. I may very well perform just as well in the recruit processes as a JD student versus a JD/MBA student. And as an associate, I may very well land the same roles (based on work experience, firm fit, interview performance, law grades, connections, etc) that I would get regardless of whether I hold only a JD or both a JD and MBA. But that's only part of the picture. For me, the MBA is a long-term play. An MBA would add value when I start needing to bring in work (via connections and leveraging those three letters to attract clients), if/when I want to make partner and take over more business responsibilities, if/when I want to open up my own shop and run my own profitable practice, if/when I move to in-house and better understand the business, if/when I want to pivot from in-house counsel to an executive management role, if/when I want to have a go at a start-up, etc. I have worked in law firms where partners lacked business knowledge and couldn't bring in any new business, where lawyers weren't adaptable to work well with different people, where partners came up with nonsensical pricing that didn't work, where a partner spent two weeks to "design" a new firm website in MS Paint... I see value in the MBA for that long-term outlook because a successful legal career isn't just about being good at law. I also think it is better to reap those benefits from the beginning instead of half-way through your career. The Osgoode/Schulich JD/MBA is 4 years and costs roughly $28k more in tuition (you pay 5 sems of Osgoode tuition and 3 sems of Schulich tuition). Yes there is opportunity cost in adding one-year to your education, but it will be much higher (and with probable tuition inflation) down the road. All factors considered, I am inclined to go the JD/MBA route.
  47. 1 point
    Oh sorry, the disappointment just got to me. My stats are 3.52/150~. discretionary applicant due to a learning disability.
  48. 1 point
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/224985621929308/ Just made it!
  49. 1 point
    Did you guys move to the new Law School in the same car?
  50. 1 point
    Ugh. Can we catapult any poster who makes the assertion that a U of T accepted student would likely have no/less issue getting higher grades at a different school? Though seriously, OP, I do agree with other posters that a law school is not necessarily similar to an undergrad. U of T and McGill had similar comparisons to UG experience (aka, sad and lonely millenials. Go on the subreddit and you'll see a lot of "How do I make friends" posts.). The law fac is pretty much it's own ecosystem (more or less, high school) with its own norms, schedules, groups/clubs, etc. It's much easier to meet people as you're constantly kept in a small area with the same people. Have you been to London? I enjoyed it but I can see why it's not for anyone. I would suggest venturing out of the student bubble and immersing yourself in the town/surrounding areas (Stratford!!!! Forest City Sports, the various meet up groups). Other practical considerations are costs (who is paying for school/rent?) and the like. U of T does place higher on Bay but Western sends a decent chunk as well.
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