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  1. 6 points
    Accepted! Went into queue January 8th. GPA: 3.55 LSAT: 154 General category.
  2. 6 points
    I actually called them! They said that the class isn't filled yet, but will be by May 31. The reason people are getting waitlisted/rejected is because they want everyone to have an answer by the end of May, or even sooner! He specifically said that no news isn't bad news, it could be good news!
  3. 3 points
    If you're concerned about half years in upper years, I've got an even bigger target for you to set your sights on - upper year exchanges.
  4. 3 points
    Seriously? Currently, students at many schools are learning a bunch of Aboriginal law content in Constitutional law. If they are pulling that content out of that course, then let's say they make Constitutional law a bit shorter (2.5 hours a week instead of the 3 that it is at many schools) and then let's say that Aboriginal law is 1.5 hours once a week, that's only an extra hour a week of class, which isn't much. Students at various schools are doing an extra hour or two a week in something (for example, students at Calgary take Legislation, which isn't common among law schools). We also don't know that the boot camps will take away from class time at all. Maybe they start or end earlier (like the UofT where they do their orientation stuff before other law schools are in session or at other schools where they don't get a fall reading week). See @BlockedQuebecois above for another example of how this might not actually be "insane" relative to other schools. I do agree that students should be skeptical if they are asked to commit before having any more information. However, I doubt that will be the case and we have no reason whatsoever to think that more information won't be forthcoming (in fact, there is a place on the website where you can asked to be kept abreast of information). What I don't agree with is idle, baseless skepticism well in anticipation of when this information would need to be provided to students. And what I think is even more ridiculous without more information are some of the outright hostile comments about "yanking their accreditation" and the like earlier in this thread.
  5. 3 points
    This may be a "biglaw" perspective because in my world, while I wouldn't say that anyone looks at people as having expertise in an area based on their Bachelors' degree or that they are decisive in hiring decisions, their degrees certainly can be highly relevant and valued. Colleagues with social work degrees are looked at at having an edge in dealing with difficult people, colleagues with English degrees are sought after to write or edit facta, colleagues with French degrees are seen as useful to speak to francophone clients, and the like. I actually do know what a lot of peoples' degrees are in, and they do post them on their profiles.
  6. 3 points
    Competitiveness as a best and worst, eh. Best when you win. Worst when you lose.
  7. 3 points
    For those of us who are already forced, ethically, to do pro bono work for vulnerable clients, I'll lower any remaining boundaries and say this is a fucking disgrace. A fucking disgrace we all could see coming--but, nonetheless, a fucking disgrace. The reactionary bullshit of "Well, don't commit a crime then," is just too much to handle after a long and difficult week. I don't want to believe things are that bad. Though I know they are. My LAO clients (and the ones who can't even get LAO) are the most vulnerable and marginalized persons likely to die in the ditch they're calling home. To suggest that they set their own trials and advocate their own Charter defences and/or factual defences is a sick joke. I'm tired of this. I can see how my clients live before they die at 35. Hey, no problem paying a Crown $200,000 to prosecute some homeless and mentally ill person. But I guess our government draws the line at paying a lawyer (maybe even now a duty counsel lawyer) a pittance to defend that client. We'll see how these cuts shake out--what services are cut, what jobs are slashed. From what I've seen working in courthouses 5 days/week, there's no "fat." Maybe it'll be the entire non-CCC (i.e. refugee/immigration/landlord-tenant) wing. Who knows. I see duty counsel run off their feet in every jurisdiction. I guess we'll see. It's goddamn sad.
  8. 2 points
    Just received the email! 162(Jan) + 87% without drops Regular
  9. 2 points
    I definitely would not pick a law school based on your interest in a niche specialization like sports and entertainment law which less than 10% of lawyers practice in Canada.
  10. 2 points
    I would have to take a closer look at the marketing materials to determine if there is something that I find concerning, I guess. If there are any actual misrepresentations, then those would absolutely be problematic. However, I also think that by the time someone is in their early 20s, they realize that marketing is designed to paint a one-sided picture. I also think that it isn't problematic to market choices that were made for pedagogical reasons. If there is good reason for those choices, then great, market them. Therefore, based on the abstract of that article alone, I don't really see the problem with branding (as long as it isn't linked, for example, to misleading career prospect numbers). I think the way some US schools game the system to appear better on the quality metrics discussed in that article is way worse than people saying "we're different...here's how."
  11. 2 points
    Accepted on March 15 at 1:57pm. It was through an e-mail sent from Leanne Walker Feeling very lucky and delighted. I will certainly be accepting as I have been rejected from everywhere else I applied (U of T, Osgoode, Queens, UVic, Windsor single and Windsor Dual). I would've loved to stay close to home, family and friends but I'm seeing this as a sign instead stats: July 2018 (150), January 2019 (150), 3.7cGPA, last 60 was closer to a 3.8. If you would like the nitty gritty details, feel free to pm me.
  12. 2 points
    If this is the case, I would wait until early June. If you haven't heard back, just ask them nicely when you can expect a decision as you would like to firm up your plans. This would also serve as a signal to your commitment and interest in UNB. I did that after I received an acceptance at one school and the admissions officer at the other school told me my offer would come the following week. It sucks to still be waiting and seeing others with lower stats get in before you do, but we have no idea the process they use to evaluate Maritime vs non-maritime applicants, and early June still gives you a couple of months to get things sorted out.
  13. 2 points
    Best: The feeling when a concept clicks and you suddenly wrap your head around what the hell you've been learning Worst: The unknown. I catastrophize, so every minor setback feels like the end of the world/my career. Why didn't I get that job interview? Why didn't they respond to this email? Did I do well or bomb that exam? It's unhealthy and law school really brought this out in me.
  14. 2 points
    Accepted! cGPA: 3.07 LSAT: 158 Working for 4+ years in international health policy including stints at the UN and Washington DC think-tanks. Intrigued by Lakehead's response, curious to see what it is like! Hopefully Thunderbay has some good bars?
  15. 2 points
    Received the email on Friday. Not surprised because I didn't make the LSAT cutoff! CGPA: 3.67 LSAT: 155 (one write) Strong softs I will be accepting Osgoode. Good luck everyone!
  16. 2 points
    So I reread my comments and I agree that I have been unnecessarily harsh, and for that I apologize. I cannot look into the mind of the powers that be at Ryerson. I imagine my cynicism about my own school's administration has been unfairly cast on them. However, I do not agree that it is unreasonable to be critical - indeed very critical - of the program Ryerson is putting forward prior before students, who will read this website, commit hundreds of thousands in tuition and opportunity cost. Some of Ryerson's marketing strategies are, in my view, irresponsibly misleading. For example, the suggestion that students can just create their own legal "start-up" (i.e. go sole directly out of articling), and the notion that there is some sort of unmet market for lawyers for tech start-ups (there is no evidence of this)... if only those lawyers knew how to code!). When that is combined with a curriculum, this is what drives my cynicism (although, again, expressed far too harshly above). I don't worry about the five 1-week bootcamps, but I do worry about : 1) Teaching family law in two weeks of morning classes (year two, semester 1). Ditto for corporate law 2) Students learning criminal, constitutional, Aboriginal, and administrative law in a single semester (which is also shortened by a week, because of the bootcamp) and while also juggling a full-sized legal methods course. U of T and Osgoode do 1L in semesters, but they don't pack it in nearly that much.* 3) The students will essentially pay tuition to work in third year. This is downright abusive, especially given the existence of articling. So we have a school that, on the one hand, is presenting a very optimistic view of the legal market to students. And we have a curriculum that, if made in good faith to be 'cutting-edge', at least has the effect of undermining the effect of actually learning basic legal concepts. My inference is that the motivation here, at least in significant part, is cost-cutting. But I have no evidence of that. *Osgoode defers constitutional, administrative and Aboriginal law to 2L, and has no 1L writing/research class, though there is an elective. U of T defers admin and Aboriginal law and has no elective.
  17. 2 points
    Best: making amazing, lifelong friends that are like family. Learning new things, in class and through study group with friends. Cool opportunities like mooting, clinic work, being RA for profs Worst: I can't really think of anything that was "worst." Adjusting to 1L was hard at first. There were a lot of privileged, clueless people who I generally liked but who got on my nerves at times. I had to learn to, as it has been called, "tune out the noise" of people bragging (mostly through insecurity) and attempting to intimidate others.
  18. 2 points
    Kind of lost in this argument is the infinitesimally small amount of money that's needed to bridge this gap. Probably well under $100 million when you consider the likelihood of austerity policies being implemented and a portion of the 600 non-lawyers at LAO being lost through attrition or in other ways. It's only a matter of time before Trudeau announces he's going to fund the refugee shortfall. That $45 million is nothing to the feds. To put it in perspective, Stephen Strasburg makes $38 million to pitch for the Nationals. If they can kick in 45, why not 60? Or 90? That $100 million investment guarantees that every Ontarian with a social conscience votes Liberal in the fall. If LAO somehow (and I don't think they will) drastically cuts services in a way that interferes with the administration of justice in criminal and family courts, judges will just start staying cases or appointing counsel. I've already thought about it, and I'll apply for stays in every case I encounter where funding cuts resulted in some unfairness in terms of the loss of services. I'll subpoena the local Conservative Rep to testify. I'm not at all joking. This is kind of why--after taking a deep breath and thinking about what happens next--I think the response from LAO may be to buy out its 50+ workforce, lean harder on DC to resolve matters, maybe implement certificate reforms, and compress its clinic system--which costs $85 million to run and has huge administrative overhead.
  19. 2 points
    I agree that this is probably what will happen. The issue is determining what those cuts will look like on the ground. If you just fund the certificate budget, the DC budget, telephone advice for all non-crim areas of law, and the admin budget necessary to hold that together, you get to around $330 million. The analysis really begins here: do you maintain a model premised on in-court lawyers giving advice to clients? Is that something that can even be peeled back without truly and completely destroying the administration of justice? The practitioners on this board will tell you that there's very little (to no) "fat" in the duty counsel program. In the criminal courts where I work, you typically have two DC for circa 30 clients. When I've worked as DC, I've found the numbers overwhelming. In some courts you even have two lawyers for a first-appearance/plea/bail court. How do you trim that? Have one person dealing with 30 people? If that lawyer spends only 10 minutes with each client, that's 5 hours just in non-stop bare-bones advice-giving. Nothing would be addressed on the record. How does that leave time to speak with the Crown and resolve anything? Or prepare for a plea? This isn't a percentage game. It's not like you can cut 10% of a lawyer. Just looking at the numbers you posted, the DC budget is around $55 million. I think that includes staff and per diem counsel. Can you cut 10% of that? Twenty? Fifty? That's still under $30 million. And if you cut that deep, you're guaranteeing that judges and JPs are going to be sitting 'til 6 o'clock each night as they fight through endless self-rep appearances that make a mockery of every foundational principle of justice established in the Charter era. The current service model is based on DC resolving anything they can, and issuing certs only where there's a probability of jail. By cutting DC, you eliminate 1) the ability to resolve many matters without the necessity of issuing a cert, and 2) the possibility of a client (who is not certificate eligible but can't access counsel) receiving advice during bail hearings, guilty pleas, etc. I don't even want to acknowledge that as a possibility. I woke up at 3 this morning because the idea of that transpiring makes me sick. So where do you look next? The certificate budget? That's the biggest line by far. Do you provide gold-plated DC service and halve the cert budget on the premise that at least people will get as much help as possible before they set their self-rep trials? Only issue certs in cases of serious indictable offences? I'm sorry to say that I think that's going to happen. If you fired every single DC and allowed clients to apply for certs based solely on a Crown Screening Form, you'd probably add an additional $55 million to the cert budget. The courts would cease to function as Crowns would be forced to meet with self-reps in all courts. If you maintain DC levels and mandate them not to issue certs for out-of-custody clients or clients facing less than 6-month sentences, you probably axe the certificate budget by $100 million. I'm asking many questions, because I can't begin to contemplate how these cuts are going to be implemented. Beyond maybe $10-20 million in savings by closing physical offices and laying off paralegals, secretaries, etc. you get into essential services. The numbers will change as the federal government is forced to kick in money. But it's still scary as hell.
  20. 2 points
  21. 2 points
    I went years ago, so not recent impression, but think it a terrible idea, and I like train travel. There were people I knew who had spouses, even children, in Toronto, and they basically left Friday after their last class, went home, spent the whole weekend there, and returned Monday morning. But during the week they were in Kingston and even with focused study (so that weekends were more free) they still had time to socialize with and befriend fellow students, join study groups, etc. all the positives other posters have identified (both academically and in terms of little good quality time with your girlfriend) Let's put it this way. Will you have 9 AM classes? If yes, probably every or most days? The earliest train arrives in Kingston at 9:07, if it's on time. So you'd be looking at being at least half an hour late to your first class 5 days a week if you take a cab. If not, maybe you're late for or miss your second class also, and that's if the train is on time. Maybe you skip those classes, well, I think that's a terrible idea; and people who skip classes hopefully at least choose to do so after trying going to class, they don't default to that because they have to starting day 1. As for after class, let's say some study groups meet evenings and weekends, oops, wait, not you, you have to leave by 6:30? to get to the station by 7:30 to make the last train to Toronto. If the schedule were better with earlier and later trains, and you made couch surfing arrangements for when you needed to stay, well, I'd still think it was a terrible idea but at least it would be more feasible.
  22. 2 points
    Op, tbh, only do it if your gf is OVER 2 points above you on the scale, and has discussed marriage with you. That’s, in my option, the only way to rationalize it.
  23. 1 point
    Got the student centre update this morning. OSLAS 2.89 L2 3.73 159
  24. 1 point
    No, got the offer and nothing before.
  25. 1 point
    Accepted today. 907.5 confirmed index. Mediocre softs. 169 LSAT, ~3.38 self calculated GPA w/ drops. Good luck to everyone still waiting.
  26. 1 point
    I am skeptical that any law school, not just Ryerson, is basing its curriculum primarily on pedagogical concerns. They all seem to be more and more engaging in marketing, branding and virtue-signaling, while raising tuition, as are universities in general, and it’s reasonable to have concerns about that broader trend.
  27. 1 point
    Accepted, but likely declining! good luck everyone LSAT 161 cGPA 3.8 L2 (self calculated) 3.95 ontario and general student, experience working in law firms
  28. 1 point
    It might SEEM insane, but without any information whatsoever, including a schedule, what is the point in opining on it?
  29. 1 point
    I don't think Ryerson is setting it's students up to fail. Ryerson has every interest for its students to succeed. And in any event, what would they fail? The bar is straightforward and I imagine F's will be as rare at Ryerson as they are at other schools. I do, however, think Ryerson is prioritizing features which differentiate it from other schools at the cost of a substantive understanding of the law. That is why IP and privacy law is mandatory, why there is a coding bootcamp, and so on. This is obviously on the school's mind. On the FAQ's, one of the questions is "I've heard it's hard to get work as a lawyer - why should I apply? Where can I work when I graduate? This is the answer: Respectfully, I think this is a false bill of goods. Ontario has an articling crisis. There is no evidence of a market for legally trained persons outside of "conventional legal contexts". Time and time again this board has told prospective law students that it is a bad idea to go to law school if you do not wish to practice law. The cool in-house jobs at startups go to the corporate solicitor who worked at Blakes for six years, not the guy /gal who just graduated from Ryerson. A coding bootcamp and taking IP law does not change that. This board has also documented the perils of running your own shop fresh out of articles. The wisdom is that there is a major capital problem and that income is extremely limited or non-existent. Ryerson claims to be an accesible law school, despite the lack of provincial funding. Students who are coming from backgrounds of modest means, often with families to support, will take on large amounts of debt and graduate in 3 years. They then have articles, which will often be poorly paid or not paid at all. Or they have LPP, where they pay. And then Ryerson says "just be enterprising".
  30. 1 point
    SO excited! Still can’t believe it but I’m accepted off the wait list, got the call this morning!!!! LSAT - 145 (there’s hope for those with a low LSAT score) cGPA - 3.55  L2 - 3.8 Lots of work experience, Northern Ontario residence, connection to Thunder Bay!
  31. 1 point
    I've done a fair bit of contract DC work, as well as certificate work, a lot of it on rural and remote circuits. DC are not supposed to do the same things as counsel who are retained, nor are they necessarily supposed to see most matters to conclusion. It may depend on where in the country you are, and this is not in ON, but I have had times where I have been able to assist almost all the unrepresented people in court on a particular day in bringing their matters to finality and to what I believed was their satisfaction. Other times, there are a lot of adjournments. It will depend. DC also assist people who wouldn't qualify for Legal Aid in some cases. I also don't think a cost comparison is possible between DC and clinics or private counsel, because the jobs are different, but the system would collapse without DC and they are extremely necessary, especially outside the city. There are also times when DC are more efficient than a certificate.
  32. 1 point
    The best things were having a life devoted to learning and the excitement and sense of accomplishment when new concepts became clear, having a great rapport with professors, meeting incredibly brilliant people from all over the country and making good friends with some of them, extra-curricular activities, a sense of hope and endless possibility in my life. The worst thing was living in a bit of a bubble where competition and pressure sometimes took on outsized proportions if you let them, and not having any money.
  33. 1 point
    They were charged and ended up resolving with a community-based disposition. They were also fired as a Crown but I am pretty sure that there were other reasons behind that as well as the charges. I believe the law society got involved as well.
  34. 1 point
  35. 1 point
    People at the top of the PI food chain (i.e. the principals and partners of successful PI shops) certainly make more than people at the top of the insurance defence food chain. But that's not really the case for associates, especially juniors, that come to work at established firms. Cashing in big on PI comes from running your own business, not being an employee of someone else's business. Agree with most of Homer's comments though. Insurance companies are in the midst of trying to move most of their legal work to in-house, insurance-side are fighting claims a lot harder, and a lot of PI shops have few, if any, trial-capable lawyers.
  36. 1 point
    Selon ce que j'ai compris, nous allons recevoir un courriel quelques semaines avant la période de sélection de cours (qui débute pour nous le 20 juin). Notre courriel de l'université sera activé aussi à ce moment là. Pour l'instant, on se tourne les pouces
  37. 1 point
    never not voting in provincial election again
  38. 1 point
    Accepted today!! 3.23 and a MA! Lsat: 159 (nov), 163 (jan) applied general! Don’t give up hope if you have a low cgpa
  39. 1 point
    Just got my acceptance this morning. wanted to wait a couple hours in case they emailed back saying "lol nah, its not you" CGPA: ~3.65 L2: ~3.75 LSAT: 155, 158 Good ECs, LORs and Personal Statement Not accepting because another school already took my money. Plus, I'm still waiting for Osgoode to hit me up.
  40. 1 point
    This is some foolishry. I thought Osgoode was better then this. I thought they were bae, turns out they're just fam 😂
  41. 1 point
    I thought you were joking about the “Emotional and Cultural Quotient Bootcamp”. You were not. I hope the Law Society withdraws its accreditation of this joke of a school.
  42. 1 point
    This.... doesnt make a lick of sense the NCA process was never designed to be the back door for Canadians with shitty entrance stats that it has become. It was designed to recognize people with legitimate previous careers/qualifications - there’s no need to limit those who were intended to benefit
  43. 1 point
    That's an issue for the Law Society in choosing to accredit imo. It still remains to be seen whether Ryerson's admission standards will in fact be lower, although I presume it would be lower than UofT and Osgoode, just maybe not the lowest.
  44. 1 point
    What I never understand is the people “desperate” or anxious to get into law school, who weren’t desperate or anxious to get decent grades and know they have low GPAs and are still all stressed about getting in. It’s a bit late at that point!
  45. 1 point
    God damn, I want to support this program so bad, but their marketing would be a lot more effective if they stuck to one identity, for now, between promoting access to justice or start-ups, technology, and innovation. Besides, all schools care about access to justice, they just don't market themselves as such. Maybe Osgoode , but for good reason with all their clinical programs. Ryerson Law School Boot Camp and Emotional and Cultural Quotient, lol what the hell. What is Global Civil Society? Making family law a mandatory course is a bad idea. While it does accord with access to justice, I don't think students should be forced to take such a specialized practice area. Same goes with wills and estates.
  46. 1 point
    I was fairly certain I would have choices when I applied. I was desperate to get into my first choice school. I know many people similar to myself. It really depends on the applicant.
  47. 1 point
    I don’t think students are opting for Ryerson over U of T or Oz, but I think it’s possible it will draw from Western and Queens. I think it will almost certainly draw students away from Windsor and Lakehead.
  48. 1 point
    I think they either will have either started by now (I.e. late March) or will start soon. April for sure. And yes it’s possible if you’re in queue that you’ve been declined but don’t know it yet.
  49. 1 point
    Hi there, I am currently in a Paralegal program and our school has a connection with a UK law school (successful graduates with a certain GPA are automatically accepted to this school). Many students have went overseas and came back successful. Our program coordinator has stated that this site is full of people who are extremely negative about the UK route, but she personally knows of many students who went this route and have succeeded. If you search on Linked In, you will find many people who gone abroad and now work in Canada. Knowing of people personally who have succeeded has made me realize the UK is actually a valid option, but I did not think it was before because individuals on this site always bash it. Personally, I plan to practice as a paralegal for a couple of years and then apply to a Canadian law school. I rewrote the LSAT and did alright, so I have hope. But at the end of the day, I am in no rush to get into law school and will be happy practicing as a paralegal...it's just that one day I may want to further my career, and if the UK is my last option, I will take it. Good luck making your decision, and please do not entirely rely on people's comments on this site, but instead go out and do your research - there are many who have been successful, and perhaps many that have not. People on this site say that if you are not good enough to get in a Canadian law school, then you are likely not good enough for law school at all - then why are there individuals who succeed when they go abroad? Nonetheless, I agree with the majority that you should not make a rash decision, exhaust all your ways to get into a Canadian law school, then consider a UK route. P.S. I have a 4.0 GPA in my program, and there are people with grades lower than mine who I have no doubt will be a better paralegal than me. Grades are not everything. I believe that my experience practicing as a paralegal and mastering the profession will make me much more qualified than someone who simply has an undergraduate GPA of 4.0. This is just my opinion, but I just have to put it out there. Good luck.
  50. 1 point
    Over-zealous politically correct drama school teacher. Very arrogant. More interested in playing dress up (ie India) and feigning interest in the environment, but ultimately still signing new oil pipeline deals.
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