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  1. 6 points
    Straight up. I grew up the ghetto, so I just asked her where I'm at because I'm getting impatient...
  2. 5 points
    I'll offer the flip side to this - get involved in whatever you're interested in. Don't do it because other people say it's good for your resume bla bla. I can think of two people who will be clerking this fall and they weren't involved in the "mainstream" activities. One of them is strongly interested in criminal law and the other one is crim law/social justice. They participated in a few clubs, mostly stuck with their own group of friends, but they did things that were important to them, like pro bono, research, publishing articles. I agree with FineCanadian about clinics though. THEY ARE GREAT AT OSGOODE (this is esp in comparison to UofT which puts more emphasis on Bay Street). I can't say enough good things about them. There's so much variety (e.g. human rights, disability, crim, employment, domestic violence, test case litigation, etc.) and you learn so many practical skills while doing them.
  3. 4 points
    Hey fam, anyone still holding out on queue? Feb 15 and radio silence since
  4. 3 points
    Often the people screening applications initially at least are not the ultimate interviewers, and may even be an outside service hired to reduce the applicant pool to a manageable size. So while I'm iffy on the methodology of a study re interviews (as discussed above), something that tried to distinguish between in-person discrimination versus at the screening stage might usefully identify where the problems more often lie. So while I suspect the problem lies at both stages, it is possible that at the extremes one business might have perfectly non-discriminatory application screening that falls apart in the interview, another business might have unbiased interviews and selection at that stage, but screeners or an outside screening process that stopped minority candidates from even reaching that stage (in the latter case, name-blind applications would 100% solve the problem). Also, I'd quibble with "want". While there is certainly deliberate discrimination, there's also unconscious discrimination, either (or both) at the application screening or interview stage. Whether by ethnicity (or presumed ethnicity) or gender (or presumed gender) or disability, or other factors, there is significant unconscious as well as deliberate discrimination. I think one simple example discussed a while ago on this board was, if you have two candidates, and candidate A has a name that is easy to pronounce, and candidate B does not, at the application screening stage might there be an unconscious, non-deliberate bias to choose the person with a name that's easy to pronounce, or otherwise seems more familiar to the screener? This is obviously not good, but may be unconscious. Or for that matter what if candidate A has an unusual (to the screener) name but puts e.g. "John" in parentheses (or contrariwise "John" with their name in parentheses afterwards) and candidate B has the same name but no "John", is there an assumption perhaps unconscious that the former is to be preferred?
  5. 3 points
    Well, if we're being pedantic, technically, I said that "don't lie was generally good advice". Does this mean I win today's LS.ca Pedant Award?
  6. 3 points
    Sorry if I was unclear. When I said "we have absolutely no studies on whether those people are more likely to get the fucking job" I was referring to whether the minority with whitened resumes are more likely to get the job than the non-whitened people. As for why that matters, I would argue it matters exponentially more than if they get offered interviews. If we accept the premise that they're less likely to be interviewed based on their perceived whiteness is a problem then it seems only logical to me that whether or not they're less likely to be hired based on their actual whiteness is a problem as well. Not only that, but it has the chance to actually help people get jobs. If whitening a resume leads to minorities getting hired at a greater rate then minorities have the chance to whiten their resume (whether that's by changing their interests or going all the way to a name chance) and improve their outcomes. It also further verifies that there's systemic racism at play in the hiring process, gives corporations better data to use to improve their situation, and may even allow the government to step in somehow. On the other hand, if it turns out that minorities with whitened resumes and minorities with ethnic resumes end up getting hired at the same rate then we wouldn't have people like OP sending out whitened resumes, and corporations/government would have better data with which to design policies. I honestly can't see how it doesn't matter.
  7. 2 points
    Or even eight times, or more! Mr. Kennedy will be continuing as Mr. Scalia, his original username.
  8. 2 points
    My understanding (purely from reading this forum) is that two people read it and make a decision, and if they do not agree, it gets forwarded to the full committee for review? Take this with a grain of salt.
  9. 2 points
    I wonder when we can expect the next round of acceptances, or if there will even be another 'round' per say? I'm guessing acceptances will start to become very sporadic from here on it.
  10. 2 points
    'Yo Vicky - where my file at?' - why didn't I ask it like that?! They know about the deadline. They've told me they will certainly try to get through files before June 1, but there are no guarantees. I'm also hoping I hear back before I make my deposit (I'll literally be making my deposit to UofO May 31st haha), but if I am to be accepted after June 1st, I'll just think of it as the best $500 I ever spent to keep my options open for Osgoode.
  11. 2 points
    I'm sure they do. The rejected thread has started, despite the radio silence. I am aware that people are getting rejected, but they are not posting their stats online... I really just want to know what I'm doing in sept LOL
  12. 2 points
    Yeah. My understanding is that this isn't atypical. Patience is key.
  13. 2 points
    If Josh Donaldson is 2.5 times as likely to be interviewed than Harnarayan Singh, that's a problem. Because Josh is more likely to get a job than Harnarayan (unless you think there's some reason why at the interview stage the magic of the name Harnarayan will somehow make them more likely to be hired than Josh, at the few interviews they get). If your argument is that a Josh Donaldson who's a Punjabi man is more likely to be hired, okay, that's an interesting question and that question could, I agree, in theory be studied though the methodology might be suspect since you'd have a set only of places that offered interviews to both Josh and Harnarayn (though I think there would also be ethical and possibly legal concerns about sending people to interviews with real businesses under false names - what happens if you have an interview at a law firm say, and the firm finds out they had fake interview subjects who never intended to work there, and they sue the researchers based on the hourly rate of all the lawyers involved in interviews? And what's the definition of personation? Etc.). But until this post of yours I thought we were discussing equal-on-paper white guy Josh and visible minority Harnarayan (who is also visibly a minority based on their application). And really, why does that matter? If the Harnarayan is less likely to be interviewed than the equal-in-all-ways-but-name Josh, that'a s problem regardless of Josh's or Harnarayan's skin colour.
  14. 2 points
    1. Use your upper year friends as resources for individual courses: I couldn't really give you any solid tips on how to prepare for profs--you don't even know who you have yet. But once you do, and when you start meeting people during orientation week, you'll find that upper years are more than willing to give you tips and summaries. 2. Get involved: Osgoode's best feature (not having attending other schools, mind you, but speaking to law students from other schools across Canada) is its robust assortment of activities and organizations. Do not merely go to class, then go home, with nothing in between. Take every opportunity to: join a student club or organization; participate in a moot, negotiation or drafting competition; volunteer for mentorship and counseling programs; join student government; and apply for whatever intensives and clinics appeal to you. Don't waste three years of tuition by not taking advantage of all the things your tuition goes toward. But also, getting involved will help build a network of people you can rely on, collaborate with, and seek advice from. 3. BYOC: The Coffee from the cafe in Ignat Kaneff (your Osgoode building) sucks and is overpriced. Elsewhere, there's Tim Horton's and Starbucks (and perhaps a Timothy's around?). I wouldn't pay more than a dollar for any of that swill (not because I'm picky, but because its farcical how much regular ol' brewed coffee costs these days). Whether living on or off campus, I'd brew at home. In a worst case scenario the best value is Tim's. Don't buy from the Cafe unless you hate coffee.
  15. 2 points
    It's a second-entry undergraduate program. So is medical school. Although this is an odd distinction, it plays out in all kinds of forms in the system, and can have unexpected consequences. At U of T alone, for example, I know that law students are represented through UTSU (the undergraduate students' union) even though it's often hard to find any law student who wants to take a seat on the board and deal with undergrad student politics. Also, the only reason law students (and medical students, and I think a couple other programs) are treated as graduate students for union purposes (employment on campus, preference in hiring, rate of pay) is because there is a specific clause written into the CUPE collective bargain that says they are treated that way. Law students are not eligible for graduate awards locally or nationally, etc. Anyway, yeah. Most people will never get it, and law students aren't eager to emphasize it. But it's undergraduate.
  16. 1 point
    Bonjour, J'initie ce thread pour qu'on se tienne au courant du moindre changement en ce qui concerne la LA de droit à l'UDEM collégien L'attente sera stressante , sachant que l'an dernier juste 36 ont été pris mais l'année d'avant 103 ! Bonne chance à tous
  17. 1 point
    I don't know. I asked her as to where she thinks my file is at. I did fill out Part B, I'm not sure if that is what is causing the delay. But from my guesses, everyone goes through 2 decision makers. One can say yes to the file, the other can agree or disagree.. vice versa
  18. 1 point
    Accepted today. 3.5 cGPA, 3.88 L2 157 LSAT
  19. 1 point
    Je viens de recevoir mon autorisation d'inscription par la poste. Cependant, la grande majorité des sections sont déjà remplies et il ne reste presque que des cours de soir. De plus, il y a quelques préalables qui sont déjà remplis ou qui ont des conflits avec d'autres. Est-ce qu'on croit qu'ils vont créer plus d'espaces? L'UQAM n'a pas une liste d'attente pour les sections remplies?
  20. 1 point
    Yeah, as providence said the government program won't give meaningful data for the question I'm asking because the name of the applicant will be known at the time of the interview.
  21. 1 point
    Is there always second reviews on applications? Or just on applications that need more consideration
  22. 1 point
    That's great to hear. Thanks for the help.
  23. 1 point
    I'm in the position, like many, of needing to put down a deposit on another school on June 1st. So I just really hope to hear SOMETHING before then, so I can make an informed choice. Is there any point emailed Admissions, or do they knowledge that at this point people wanna know by june 1st
  24. 1 point
    I also got the email yesterday afternoon and received confirmation that I will be placed into the pool to be considered for the waitlist today. The list will be created mid-June. L2: 80% LSAT: 150(Dec), 157(Feb) no Sask connection
  25. 1 point
    In queue since Jan 17 as well. I really hope they let us know before the end of June.
  26. 1 point
    Ah interesting. Vicky told me a week ago that I should hear back in 2-4 weeks but made no mention of where I might be in the process. I'm sure they will let us know. I don't think they'll just leave us suspended in queue for eternity - at least I hope not!
  27. 1 point
    SirBroccoli, I'm also very interested in the prospects of litigation funding in Ontario. To my understanding, third-party litigation funding mostly crops up in the context of class actions. Which is how third-party litigation funding is also a possible way of (plaintiff-side class actions) law firms hedging against risk. A good place to start reading, if you're interested, is: Dugal v Manulife Financial Corporation, 2011 ONSC 1785. There are about a dozen cases across Canada that have directly discussed the topic. As far as the ethics of it all are concerned, I think you nailed it on the head in your original post. Access to justice vs. commoditization of peoples rights. Perhaps more worrying is the prospect (or the appearance) of firms (or 3rd party lit funders) gambling on the outcomes of lawsuits. This very old concept of Champerty and Maintenance has been referred to and discussed in the various cases.
  28. 1 point
    Thanks for the reply. I absolutely agree(d) with the bolded part, which is why I wanted to start off at WPP. My plan was to move in mid-August and have enough time to sort everything out, but unfortunately I won't be flying out until Sept 1st now, which is going to make things a bit more hectic! I was thinking maybe I would suffer through grad residence for a year, while getting used to the city, so that I'm comfortable navigating my way through Edmonton by the time I need to take care of furniture and other things. I also won't have a car, which I'm not used to, so distance to the law school is the number one factor (and I don't mind paying a premium for it - at least until I find some law school friends to room with for 2L ). One more question: when did you send out an application for grad residence? I take it you were a masters student when you lived there, so you were given preference. I decided against WPP and surrounding apartments too late, submitting my Grad Res application in early May! I hear they take application from October, so this whole thing isn't looking too great. At the same time, I hear a lot of law students live in Grad Res, so maybe there's enough space for all of us who want it? Ahh, I need a beer.
  29. 1 point
    Will be foregoing my deposit and acceptance in Saskatchewan in favour of an acceptance in Manitoba.
  30. 1 point
    If the application asks you to disclose this sort of information, then definitely disclose it, and that's not legal advice, just common sense.
  31. 1 point
    The best answer: as soon as possible. The best thing you can do to prepare for this exam is being comfortable with your index/ToC and being able to find information quickly. In my opinion, the best way to do that is to do practice exams. I think I had about 4 days of practice exams for the barristers and only 1 for the solicitors. This worked out for me but I could definitely have been better prepared had I given myself more time to get comfortable with looking up information.
  32. 1 point
    Salut, Est-ce que quelqu'un a reçu plus d'information sur comment se faire un compte (avoir un nip) pour choisir ses cours?
  33. 1 point
    I had to make the same decision and I'm choosing uOttawa. There is a healthy Ottawa law alumni community in Vancouver - roughly 40 graduates from just two classes a couple years ago - and there are more clubs/groups/opportunities at Ottawa for the type of work you're looking for.
  34. 1 point
    I accepted today... I think? OLSAS' website is absolute garbage. I'm waiting to hear back from Osgoode and Queen's. For those of you paying deposits online, which membership number did you select? 6512699 or 11802685?
  35. 1 point
    Thanks for the comments law name and Illuzifer. Much appreciated The likelihood of getting accepted depends entirely on your number/rank. It is basically impossible to reasonably speculate chances without a rank. There were about 250 people on the waitlist last year (I think - or it could've been around 230. I forget). Someone ranked about 100 reported an acceptance. Things change year to year, though, so I'm not sure how helpful these stats are
  36. 1 point
    I suspect they're happy to the take your word for it - anything for the commission. The undergrad status of law school was a source of great deal of library fines for me in law school - I had gotten used to the much more generous library borrowing rights of the grad student.
  37. 1 point
    It wouldn't even be that hard to design a study around it! Send out two whitened resumes to each job. Choose a few minorities and a few white guys (selected based on interview skills). Send the minority and white guy to each interview, randomizing which person matches which resume. Evaluate who gets job offers (with special analysis of corporations that offered interviews to both candidates). Publish in the Nature equivalent for social sciences. Appear in every liberal leaning news outlet in North America. Get tenure. I have a dream that one day the social scientists will start doing studies that are actually useful, but thus far I remain disappointed. (Kidding... mostly)
  38. 1 point
    I graduated with my JD from the U of S 5 years ago, and I'm working at a large firm in Saskatchewan (what passes for biglaw here). Making low 6 figures. I'm at the point in my career where I have to start seriously planning for the "up or out" thing. For the first few years of being an associate you just need to do everything that comes your way as well as you can, with a good attitude. As you get more senior you need to think about the long-term. If I want to make partner one day, I need to develop a game plan and really start working toward that goal (i.e. developing my own practice rather than relying on others feeding me). If I want to go elsewhere, I should start looking around, making connections, and putting out feelers. I'm not really certain of my long term career goals at this point, so I'm kind of preparing for either path. I've seen mid/senior associates (at my firm and others) do the following: Lateral to a different firm (some to equal sized or larger firms, and even some to national firms in larger centres like Toronto, Calgary, and Vancouver, but also a roughly equal number to smaller firms). Lateral moves within private practice seem to be the biggest category. Go in house as lawyers (corporate or government). Second biggest category. Leave law for policy jobs in government. Leave law for management jobs (government or corporate). Leave law to start their own business. Leave law with no plan, to do whatever the hell they want (small category). Go solo/start a new firm (small category) Make partner (small category, and appears to be getting smaller).
  39. 1 point
    There's no real secret to doing well on RC, but here's some things that helped me. Focus less on the details and more on the shape and development of the argument. When X did Y isn't important--you might be asked a question about it, but it'll take you two seconds to find. The more time consuming questions are the ones that require you to understand how things progress in a paragraph or how different paragraphs fit together and support the central argument. I know some places tell you to mark up your passage with like colour coded highlights and underlining and stuff--if it works for you then great but I think it wastes a lot of time and energy with little benefit. Also, ask yourself why you're doing poorly: is it because you don't have enough time? Or is it because you just didn't get what the question was asking or what the passage was saying? That matters. If it's a timing thing, maybe you're reading through the passage too quickly to understand what's happening. Or maybe you're reading too slowly and methodically--you don't need to be able to recite every sentence by memory to answer the questions. For reference, I usually took a minute on reading and the rest on thinking about the questions/rereading/etc. I'm not sure I struck the balance exactly right and everyone's different. If you're not getting it, then you should probably read more on your own time. News articles, academic papers or books, etc. Try some of seriously dense stuff if you want (but not like, Judith Butler/Kaja Silverman dense unless want to torture yourself)--it's hard to parse and if you can get that, then the passages will be a piece of cake.
  40. 1 point
    You should post what books you have here. I have my old textbooks and still use them from time to time as a starting point for research. When I was in school, I bought a book that was one edition out of date (I think it was a corporate law text) for $8. Still have that book, and use it from time to time (despite the fact that it's about 12 years old at this point). Most of the basic principles are still accurately covered. You might not get the discussion of cases that have happened in the last decade, but the majority of law is from before then anyways. I even had profs who assigned out of date texts, and then just pointed out where the texts were wrong. Anyways, not convinced these books should just be used as kindling.
  41. 1 point
    $100,000 is a lot of debt. If you aren't sure if you want to be a lawyer, then perhaps you should defer a year, and learn more about the profession. Perhaps you could get a position at a local law firm, either paid or volunteer, to see how much you might enjoy it. You could also consider your other options, and weigh the costs and benefits of those compared to law. For me personally, I graduated with $100,000-ish debt. It took years to pay off, even with US biglaw. It is certainly a non-trivial amount of debt, and you should seriously think about whether or not becoming a lawyer is worth that much debt to you.
  42. 1 point
    I am still on their 2012 waitlist
  43. 1 point
    TRU for your goals. The local connections that you make will be priceless if you intend on practicing in BC. Plus you know, proximity of family support and kitty snuggles. I work in a smaller Ontario city (40k) that is between 2 large cities. The majority of lawyers went to the 2 local law schools. I was viewed with extreme skepticism when i first came into practice here as I was an outsider. Local connections certainly help, which TRU will give you should you wish to remain in BC's interior. Tldr: don't be a prestige hussy. Kitty snuggles should be determative factor.
  44. 1 point
    I have seen plenty of law students start law school with an interest in constitutional law/human rights, only to realize that there are very limited jobs in those areas. Most of these students end up applying for jobs with corporate/national firms in my experience. The rationale for attending the 'best' school you get into is to keep your options open to the greatest extent possible.
  45. 1 point
    i had a phone interview earlier in April They asked me: why law, why dal, what kind of law, if I could bring anyone dead or alive to speak to their law panel who would it be, what legal issue am I interested in and why, what obstacle did I overcome, and one specific question about my personal statement. I think you will receive the same/similar questions. My advise would be to look into the possible loops holes or questions they might have about your application and be prepared to answer those. They are very kind and try to make you feel at ease about the interview so don't be too formal. Just casual and polite. it worked for me. good luck
  46. 1 point
    What MP and the others said. The profession is filled with mediocre students who ended up with long, successful, legal careers, which only goes to show that the relationship between law school success and professional success is not one to one. Your grades may limit your options a bit initially - you're not going to be summering with a biglaw firm or clerking with the SCC - and may require extra effort to sell yourself, but they're hardly the end of the world. Talk to your professors, figure out what you did wrong and work to correct it, you still have lots of opportunities. Law requires a way of thinking that is often different from what people are used to, you just may be a bit slower than your peers in adjusting to that. Doesn't mean you won't. If you get your shit together in 2L, people will discount your first year grades accordingly. Also, and it probably doesn't feel like this now, but some day in the future (no doubt on the first day your kid brings home an A- on his report card, that being as close to a failing grade as you can get in the public school system) you will joke about how accomplished you were in law school - it's damned hard to get a D average in law school. You alone, among all your peers, achieved that (admittedly, unwelcome) distinction. So cheer up.
  47. 1 point
    I respect the enthusiasm but this post is pretty silly. Go to the best school you get into and try to get good marks.
  48. 1 point
    Received a rejection during that big batch sent out in march. No surprise to me. cGPA: ~3.3 L2: ~3.5-3.6 LSAT: 160
  49. 1 point
    Did you apply through Access or General categories? This might make a big difference. I applied through Access categories (when they were available/relevant to me) this semester, and have received some offers even with a 3.13 cGPA. If you didn't apply Access this cycle you should definitely do it next. My recommendation to you is, if the option is available as I think you indicated, apply for a backdated withdrawal. My cGPA only hit 3.13 because I was granted a backdated withdrawal for several semesters worth of credits. My gpa was so abysmal beforehand that I probably wouldn't have been looked at without it, even applying through Access categories. As someone who has gone through the petitions process twice I'm telling you it is absolutely worth it. I'm not sure what you mean by having "valid reasons" for removing first year grades but if it's anything related to a medical issue, emergency or chronic, an undiscovered/untreated learning disability, mental health issue, etc, you have a right to apply for a backdated withdrawal and why wouldn't you exercise that right?? Even if it's a headache to fill out the application and get the supporting documents, it's still worth it. My second backdated withdrawal application was denied and I had to hire my human rights prof to appeal it, and that cost more than I wanted it to, and it was still worth it in the end. If you don't get in this cycle and pursue law school next cycle, you should do everything imaginable to increase your stats including retaking the LSAT.
  50. 1 point
    Exams might be the wrong time to ask this, but overall 1L is great. Our year had a whole range of ages, with a few people starting the year around 21, a whole bunch in the 23-27 bracket, and a fair number older than that. FYI, about half the people in the 2020 group are upper years, and about half the class has moved here from somewhere besides Victoria or the lower mainland. There are going to be all kinds of law school events organized throughout the year if going out is your thing. There are also a ton of people willing to grab a beer anytime, anywhere. I've found having to turn down social opportunities is a bigger problem than finding them. As for getting around, it depends where you live. I'd recommend living close to downtown - easy bus access to campus, and it makes getting home a lot easier if you're out late. The neighbourhood around campus can be a bit of a bubble. Legal Process is a great way to ease into law school. Make sure you don't take the reading too seriously, and don't stress if you don't understand the "substantive" law - it's really about giving you time to meet your classmates before the real work begins. You mostly go on hikes, explore the city and do "legal" arts and crafts. UVic law is a really social place if you want to put yourself out there. You'll fit in fine. Feel free to PM me if you have any more specific questions about uVic/Victoria.
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