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5 minutes ago, mailman said:

WTH is that supposed to mean??  If you want people to post stats, you shouldn't be insulting them. 

I will say this. I am someone who is really close with my parents, and I certainly discussed law school applications with them, but at this age, ie, your early to mid 20s, your parents should not be running your law school application process, you should. My parents were not telling me where to apply, or posting on forums for me, and frankly that is inappropriate at this age or stage of your life. 

 

Really think about what some of the life skills competencies of a 22 year old person ought to be. At the end of the day, this is your (or your child's) decision, and you (or they) need to be in control. It is much healthier for them in the long run.

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19 minutes ago, mailman said:

WTH is that supposed to mean??  If you want people to post stats, you shouldn't be insulting them. 

It’s not meant to be an insult. I said it a bit flippantly and I apologize for that, but I do sincerely feel bad for anyone old enough to go to law school who has a parent so heavily involved in their application process that they are advising them where to go and posting on their behalf on a forum.

If your child gets into law school, in 4 years, they could be responsible for peoples’ money, their life savings, the future of their children, their liberty, or their most important rights. Before that point, they will be rubbing shoulders with a lot of accomplished, independent adults who are their classmates. I can tell you that when I was in law school, people who had parents this involved in their lives (I remember one whose parents drove them to and from school, made their lunches, and did their laundry!) struggled socially. 

In my opinion you are not doing your adult child any favours by being a helicopter parent and when reality hits, it could be brutal for them, so this is why I legitimately and honestly do feel a bit sorry for them. 

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28 minutes ago, providence said:

It’s not meant to be an insult. I said it a bit flippantly and I apologize for that, but I do sincerely feel bad for anyone old enough to go to law school who has a parent so heavily involved in their application process that they are advising them where to go and posting on their behalf on a forum.

If your child gets into law school, in 4 years, they could be responsible for peoples’ money, their life savings, the future of their children, their liberty, or their most important rights. Before that point, they will be rubbing shoulders with a lot of accomplished, independent adults who are their classmates. I can tell you that when I was in law school, people who had parents this involved in their lives (I remember one whose parents drove them to and from school, made their lunches, and did their laundry!) struggled socially. 

In my opinion you are not doing your adult child any favours by being a helicopter parent and when reality hits, it could be brutal for them, so this is why I legitimately and honestly do feel a bit sorry for them. 

I honestly think you’re too apologetic. Nobody insulted the applicant. I truly feel sorry somebody who is capable of scoring a 165+ LSAT but also either a) can’t run their own life, or b) has a parent that feels it’s appropriate to intrude on their life like this. I can’t figure out whether I’m more shocked or appalled.

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Maybe the applicant doesn't frequent forums like this, and the parent is simply using their child's stats to help future applicants know where they stand. As for the parent making the child apply broadly, not sure why that's an issue. My parents encouraged me to apply to ~7 schools and not just a few like I had originally intended. 

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5 minutes ago, Inconspicuous said:

Maybe the applicant doesn't frequent forums like this, and the parent is simply using their child's stats to help future applicants know where they stand. As for the parent making the child apply broadly, not sure why that's an issue. My parents encouraged me to apply to ~7 schools and not just a few like I had originally intended. 

How does the parent even know about the forum though? Why would the parent be so invested in what other unknown applicants think? Their kid applying to law school shouldn’t be a big part of their parents’ life, thoughts or concerns. It’s reasonable that they would be supporting their kid, but not reasonable that they would care about the discussions on a forum that their kid might be thinking about. Their kid as a law school applicant has something to add to the community - the parent does not.

Nothing wrong with advising or encouraging your child to apply broadly, but “making” them, or “making sure” they do? And coming on said forum to brag that you did with no apparent qualms as to how that might embarrass said kid? Again it’s a boundaries issue. Did the applicant even know their parent did that and thereby affected their reputation with this community? If the applicant didn’t want to post their stats, why did the parent think it was necessary? 

 I may not be the queen of parenting, but I am trying to build capacity and confidence in my kids. And in terms of their future educational plans, we discuss them and I provide guidance and suggestions, but they have to follow through and make their own decisions. And they are much younger than the poster we’re discussing. 

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5 minutes ago, providence said:

How does the parent even know about the forum though? Why would the parent be so invested in what other unknown applicants think? Their kid applying to law school shouldn’t be a big part of their parents’ life, thoughts or concerns. It’s reasonable that they would be supporting their kid, but not reasonable that they would care about the discussions on a forum that their kid might be thinking about. Their kid as a law school applicant has something to add to the community - the parent does not.

Nothing wrong with advising or encouraging your child to apply broadly, but “making” them, or “making sure” they do? And coming on said forum to brag that you did with no apparent qualms as to how that might embarrass said kid? Again it’s a boundaries issue. Did the applicant even know their parent did that and thereby affected their reputation with this community? If the applicant didn’t want to post their stats, why did the parent think it was necessary? 

 I may not be the queen of parenting, but I am trying to build capacity and confidence in my kids. And in terms of their future educational plans, we discuss them and I provide guidance and suggestions, but they have to follow through and make their own decisions. And they are much younger than the poster we’re discussing. 

You're absolutely right. I was just playing devil's advocate. I do in fact agree that the whole thing seems a little odd. 

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6 hours ago, BlockedQuebecois said:

God help me if my mom is on this forum.

I'm worried that one of my kids might be in a few years!

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More likely a case of living vicariously through their child, but I digress.  Congrats to any applicants who made the waitlist despite some surprisingly good candidates, goes to show just how competitive this application cycle truly was.

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On 2018-03-23 at 9:31 AM, TrqTTs said:

More likely a case of living vicariously through their child, but I digress.  Congrats to any applicants who made the waitlist despite some surprisingly good candidates, goes to show just how competitive this application cycle truly was.

I believe this cycle had over 2300 applications for 205 spots. 2300 is a historical record for UofT applications according to OLSAS historical stats.

https://www.ouac.on.ca/statistics/law-school-application-statistics/

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I've firm accepted another offer and removed myself from the waitlist - good luck to everyone waiting! In case you are wondering, I called U of T to inquire about how the waitlist works and they informed me that it is a random lottery. When a spot opens, they pick someone at random and call/email them. When you get the call/email you are expected to decide pretty much right away whether you are going to accept the offer.

I hope this info helps someone! :) 

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32 minutes ago, baconandmegs said:

I called U of T to inquire about how the waitlist works and they informed me that it is a random lottery. When a spot opens, they pick someone at random and call/email them.

That's absurd lol

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3 hours ago, baconandmegs said:

I've firm accepted another offer and removed myself from the waitlist - good luck to everyone waiting! In case you are wondering, I called U of T to inquire about how the waitlist works and they informed me that it is a random lottery. When a spot opens, they pick someone at random and call/email them. When you get the call/email you are expected to decide pretty much right away whether you are going to accept the offer.

I hope this info helps someone! :) 

Too many applicants, too many on the waitlist. I guess when you get down to the last few spots, it's tough for them to decide too and they just pick randomly especially without reference letters or interviews to compare. Will probably just firm accept an offer too when April 1st comes and not bother with it.

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On 3/23/2018 at 1:52 AM, BlockedQuebecois said:

God help me if my mom is on this forum.

I would honestly love it if my mom used this forum, she'd finally understand what "2L recruit" and "HH/H/P" mean.

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I know it's still early, but given that it's been 5 days since the April 1 deadline, I would assume U of T has a good idea of how full the class. When should we expect potential waitlist movement? 

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On 2018-04-07 at 1:45 AM, Inconspicuous said:

I know it's still early, but given that it's been 5 days since the April 1 deadline, I would assume U of T has a good idea of how full the class. When should we expect potential waitlist movement? 

Last year the first post on here of someone accepted off the waitlist was April 14 (a Friday). I don’t think there is a reason for the timeline to be much different this year. My money would be on them starting around this coming Friday, the 13th. Spooky.

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Just firm accepted Osgoode, thus removing myself from the waitlist. Good luck to all of you still waiting, I hope you get in. 

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