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University of Alberta 2017 Admissions Based on Accepted Index Scores

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  153 155.5 157.5 159.5 161.5 163.5 165.5 167.5 170 173
4 243 245.5 247.5 249.5 251.5 253.5 255.5 257.5 260 263
3.9 240.75 min 243.25 245.25 247.25 249.25 251.25 253.25 255.25 257.75 260.75
3.8 REJECT 241 243 245 247 249 251 253 255.5 258.5
3.7 REJECT REJECT 241.25 242.75 244.75 246.75 248.75 250.75 253.25 256.25
3.6 REJECT REJECT REJECT 241 242.5 244.5 246.5 248.5 251 254
3.5 REJECT REJECT REJECT REJECT 240.75 min 242.25 244.25 246.25 248.75

251.75

Based on GPA*22.5 + LSAT

 

Average: (3.8*22.5)+161 = 246.5. I've heard they use GPA*22 now, but I'm too lazy to change my chart at this point. It should be close enough though. 

Range of accepts: 240.75 to 263

This is useful to anyone who might be interested in comparing their index score to last year's admission cycle and is wondering if they will be auto-accepted or not. I had to average the LSAT score categories (the UofA's accepted applicant profile presents them in variable ranges) so take it all with a grain of salt. 

The chart represents 148 students in the REGULAR ADMISSIONS category. 

Let me know if it helps.

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2 hours ago, jtiw03 said:

is this index score calculated based on cGPA or L2?

Last 2

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The University of Alberta uses "Last2" years; L2 grades may also be sourced from a master's degree or from a post-baccalaureate set of courses. 

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I'm 2 points above the 240/242 threshold, but I always wonder how strictly they follow the last 60 thing. I have an awful cumulative GPA with tons of fails on my transcript, but my last 60 is stellar. So as long as they stick to the whole last 60 thing, I should be in. 

Going to be a very stressful few months until I get an answer. 

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49 minutes ago, Abii said:

I'm 2 points above the 240/242 threshold, but I always wonder how strictly they follow the last 60 thing. I have an awful cumulative GPA with tons of fails on my transcript, but my last 60 is stellar. So as long as they stick to the whole last 60 thing, I should be in. 

Going to be a very stressful few months until I get an answer. 

trust me, they literally don't care about your cumulative GPA. They don't even consider it. 

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4 hours ago, Abii said:

I'm 2 points above the 240/242 threshold, but I always wonder how strictly they follow the last 60 thing. I have an awful cumulative GPA with tons of fails on my transcript, but my last 60 is stellar. So as long as they stick to the whole last 60 thing, I should be in. 

Going to be a very stressful few months until I get an answer. 

 

My cGPA was 3.2, with four F's and multiple withdrawals and done over WAY too many years. My L2 was 3.96. I got admitted mid January and was offered a scholarship.

They are absolutely a numbers based school. Don't sweat your history too much. 

 

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2 hours ago, BigScienceCertificate said:

 

My cGPA was 3.2, with four F's and multiple withdrawals and done over WAY too many years. My L2 was 3.96. I got admitted mid January and was offered a scholarship.

They are absolutely a numbers based school. Don't sweat your history too much. 

 

Thanks for calming my nerves lol

 

 

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Yup, it's as if they pay no attention to past history at all. But I have always wondered if they notice whether someone had an F1 on their transcript outside of their Last2 (F1= Fail with cheating flag). OP who's worried, you should be fine!

 

 

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On 11/7/2017 at 5:57 AM, cheesypete said:
245.5 247.5 249.5 251.5 253.5 255.5 257.5 260 263
3.9 240.75 min 243.25 245.25 247.25 249.25 251.25 253.25 255.25 257.75 260.75
3.8 REJECT 241 243 245 247 249 251 253 255.5 258.5
3.7 REJECT REJECT 241.25 242.75 244.75 246.75 248.75 250.75 253.25 256.25
3.6 REJECT REJECT REJECT 241 242.5 244.5 246.5 248.5 251 254
3.5 REJECT REJECT REJECT REJECT 240.75 min 242.25 244.25 246.25 248.75

251.75

Based on GPA*22.5 + LSAT

 

Average: (3.8*22.5)+161 = 246.5. I've heard they use GPA*22 now, but I'm too lazy to change my chart at this point. It should be close enough though. 

Range of accepts: 240.75 to 263

This is useful to anyone who might be interested in comparing their index score to last year's admission cycle and is wondering if they will be auto-accepted or not. I had to average the LSAT score categories (the UofA's accepted applicant profile presents them in variable ranges) so take it all with a grain of salt. 

The chart represents 148 students in the REGULAR ADMISSIONS category. 

Let me know if it helps.

May I ask if this is from last year?

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On 2017-11-08 at 7:47 PM, cheesypete said:

Yes it is from last year; mentioned in the title of the thread

Do you recall what the auto-admit number index was for last year? Also, if the auto-admit could be expected first round or just accepted within the cycle? 

Trying to calculate my outlook :)

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On 2017-02-14 at 12:52 PM, GameTime180 said:

 

Multiple posters have mentioned that this year a different index calculation was used. Last year it was 22.5*GPA+LSAT, but apparently that calculation favoured GPA. This cycle is supposed to favour the LSAT, but I really cannot verify any of this. I've seen 22*GPA+LSAT thrown around as the the index that favours LSAT. 

 

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242 is supposed to be the auto-admit number for the calculation using 22.5

240 is supposed to be the auto-admit number for the calculation using 22

 

I have 243 and 241, just over both auto-admit benchmarks. Again, this could all be bullshit lol 

 

Link and quote from last year's accepted thread

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After the fall semester I will have either a 3.7 or 3.8. Either of those with my 160 looks like it would essentially guarantee admission. 

Still slightly paranoid about a more competitive cycle caused by the 20% increase in June LSAT takers and 10% increase in September takers. However, I'm quite confident this increase is mostly in the United States.

 

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52 minutes ago, Toad said:

After the fall semester I will have either a 3.7 or 3.8. Either of those with my 160 looks like it would essentially guarantee admission. 

Still slightly paranoid about a more competitive cycle caused by the 20% increase in June LSAT takers and 10% increase in September takers. However, I'm quite confident this increase is mostly in the United States.

 

Those increases must be largely attributable to the elimination of the 3 write limit. And if people wrote 3 times and still couldn't get a good score, chances are they'll do just as shitty the 4th, 5th, or even 6th time. I wouldn't worry.

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1 hour ago, Nabbo said:

Those increases must be largely attributable to the elimination of the 3 write limit. And if people wrote 3 times and still couldn't get a good score, chances are they'll do just as shitty the 4th, 5th, or even 6th time. I wouldn't worry.

 

I'm actually pretty sure the LSAT limit removal announcement was mid-late May, which would have been after the June registration deadline. So the 20% increase in June wouldn't be attributable to that. A small portion of the 10% September bump may be though.

I'd say the best explanation(s) for the increase is 

(1) A "Trump bump." At first I didn't believe this explanation, but apparently some prep companies did some polling and found that the Trump presidency is a legitimate motivator for many of the LSAT takers. If I recall correctly around 25% said it is their main motivator. 

Is it possible that some Canadians watched the US news and were motivated by the way the judicial branch was able to limit Trump's power? Or how lawyers offered free help at airports when the travel ban went into effect? I'm sure it is. But I'm inclined to believe a much small percentage of the population in Canada would be motivated to potentially pursue law school because of a Trump presidency than people who actually live in the United States. 

(2) A continuation of a general trend of the increase in LSAT takers in the United States. There has been a 7% increase in US LSAT takers between the 2014-2015 cycle and the 2016-2017 cycle. During the same period Canadian LSAT takers dropped by 0.5%~. 

The Legal market in Canada and the US are quite different as is the legal education system. There is much more risk associated with pursuing law school in the United States and they seem to be more prone to fluctuations. 

 

Overall I suspect a slightly more competitive cycle for Canadians this year. 

 

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3 hours ago, Toad said:

After the fall semester I will have either a 3.7 or 3.8. Either of those with my 160 looks like it would essentially guarantee admission. 

Still slightly paranoid about a more competitive cycle caused by the 20% increase in June LSAT takers and 10% increase in September takers. However, I'm quite confident this increase is mostly in the United States.

 

I am also above the indicator according to my 153 LSAT and 4.0 L2 (confirmed). I wonder, how reliable has the predictor actually been? I also have this fear that this cycle will be more competitive than ever, and that this predictor will "fail." But apparently this feeling is felt by a lot of individuals during each cycle. 

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56 minutes ago, whatislaw said:

I am also above the indicator according to my 153 LSAT and 4.0 L2 (confirmed). I wonder, how reliable has the predictor actually been? I also have this fear that this cycle will be more competitive than ever, and that this predictor will "fail." But apparently this feeling is felt by a lot of individuals during each cycle. 

Just call Heather and ask her what she thinks of your chances, she probably won't give you any guaranteeing statements (i.e., "you're in," or "you're not in") but you'll be able to gauge what she's thinking based on your interaction. 

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On 11/11/2017 at 3:01 PM, ebmus11 said:

Just call Heather and ask her what she thinks of your chances, she probably won't give you any guaranteeing statements (i.e., "you're in," or "you're not in") but you'll be able to gauge what she's thinking based on your interaction. 

Helped clear out some of my anxieties. Thank you for the suggestion. 

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