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Queen's/Western with 3.55 cGPA, 3.85 L2, and 157 LSAT?

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I underperformed on the LSAT and am retaking in December (and possibly Feb)  to try to give myself a better chance at Western and Queen's, as well as shoot for Oz. 

 

Any ideas what my chances would be at Western and Queen's with a 3.85 L2 and a 157? I think it might go either way due to the shitty LSAT but I'm not really sure. Annoying because I was consistently PTing over 160 before the test :(

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I think you are right on the cusp with those current stats, but given the fact that you are PT-ing over 160, if you can get at least a 160 in December (which is likely, if you prepare properly) I would say you are a shoe-in for both Western and Queens.

A friend of mine got into Western with a 158 and an average GPA. Don't get discouraged about September. It doesn't exist anymore, it's gone. You know what you're capable of, just drill like a maniac until December and stay committed, and if you can get a 160 I would say you're basically guaranteed accepted.

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1 hour ago, proflucas said:

I think you are right on the cusp with those current stats, but given the fact that you are PT-ing over 160, if you can get at least a 160 in December (which is likely, if you prepare properly) I would say you are a shoe-in for both Western and Queens.

A friend of mine got into Western with a 158 and an average GPA. Don't get discouraged about September. It doesn't exist anymore, it's gone. You know what you're capable of, just drill like a maniac until December and stay committed, and if you can get a 160 I would say you're basically guaranteed accepted.

Since Western and Queen's are my top 2 choices, this is comforting for me as my cGPA is 3.56 my L2 is 3.84 and my LSAT is 163

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1 hour ago, Nabbo said:

Since Western and Queen's are my top 2 choices, this is comforting for me as my cGPA is 3.56 my L2 is 3.84 and my LSAT is 163

We have very similar stats (aside from the LSAT). I actually realized my cGPA is 3.61, but that wouldn't make much of a difference. If you don't mind me asking, what were you PTing before you scored your 163? 

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1 hour ago, GnarMarBinx said:

We have very similar stats (aside from the LSAT). I actually realized my cGPA is 3.61, but that wouldn't make much of a difference. If you don't mind me asking, what were you PTing before you scored your 163? 

So when I took in September 2016 I was PTing around 160 but I ended up scoring a 155 (damn computer virus game!). I then retook in June 2017 and was averaging between 162 and 165 so my 163 was around what I was expecting. 

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8 hours ago, Nabbo said:

So when I took in September 2016 I was PTing around 160 but I ended up scoring a 155 (damn computer virus game!). I then retook in June 2017 and was averaging between 162 and 165 so my 163 was around what I was expecting. 

Hahaha I still have to do PT 79!! I already know it's gonna kill me. Before this September I was PTing low-mid 160's but now I'm hoping to raise that before December so that if I have the same ~5 point drop, I will at least stay above 160. Do you have any idea (other than the virus game) how you managed not to have a drop the second time around, as compared to the first time you wrote? 

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9 hours ago, GnarMarBinx said:

Hahaha I still have to do PT 79!! I already know it's gonna kill me. Before this September I was PTing low-mid 160's but now I'm hoping to raise that before December so that if I have the same ~5 point drop, I will at least stay above 160. Do you have any idea (other than the virus game) how you managed not to have a drop the second time around, as compared to the first time you wrote? 

I really focused on LG and RC because in September I got 8 wrong in LG and 13 wrong in RC. I drilled LG non stop and went -1 on test day in June and RC I changed up my approach entirely and got it down to -6.

I also started doing full length PT's with proper timing. For the first prep, I would do a section, take a break, do another section, go eat, etc. so on test day I did a full length test for the first time and it was a big slap in the face. Also, the second time around I didn't have those same test day nerves as I'd already been through it before, and writing at 12:30 in June was a big help compared to 8:30 in September (I'm not a morning person at all).

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16 minutes ago, Nabbo said:

I really focused on LG and RC because in September I got 8 wrong in LG and 13 wrong in RC. I drilled LG non stop and went -1 on test day in June and RC I changed up my approach entirely and got it down to -6.

I also started doing full length PT's with proper timing. For the first prep, I would do a section, take a break, do another section, go eat, etc. so on test day I did a full length test for the first time and it was a big slap in the face. Also, the second time around I didn't have those same test day nerves as I'd already been through it before, and writing at 12:30 in June was a big help compared to 8:30 in September (I'm not a morning person at all).

Thanks a lot! I need to focus on games a lot in this next bit too. I went -4 in September but considering it was an easy games section and I still didn't finish, I need to work a lot on timing. How did you change your RC approach, if you don't mind me asking? 

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25 minutes ago, GnarMarBinx said:

Thanks a lot! I need to focus on games a lot in this next bit too. I went -4 in September but considering it was an easy games section and I still didn't finish, I need to work a lot on timing. How did you change your RC approach, if you don't mind me asking? 

Instead of reading for content, read for structure. Finish each paragraph and take a second to think about why it's there. Is it there to provide examples? To illustrate a competing point of view? It's much more important that you know why something is there, not the exact specifics of what it's saying. I also started making margin notes so that if I ever needed to return to the passage, I knew exactly where to go. One of the biggest time wasters IMO is returning to the passage, re-reading, looking for something specific etc. It's all about efficiency. 

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1 hour ago, Nabbo said:

Instead of reading for content, read for structure. Finish each paragraph and take a second to think about why it's there. Is it there to provide examples? To illustrate a competing point of view? It's much more important that you know why something is there, not the exact specifics of what it's saying. I also started making margin notes so that if I ever needed to return to the passage, I knew exactly where to go. One of the biggest time wasters IMO is returning to the passage, re-reading, looking for something specific etc. It's all about efficiency. 

Thanks so much! I have sort of been doing that, but maybe not thoroughly enough. Good luck this cycle -- I'm sure you will be a great contender for Queen's! Maybe I'll see ya there if I can up that LSAT a bit hahah. 

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34 minutes ago, HandsomeSocialist said:

I had repressed the memory that was the computer virus game. Know Im having flashbacks! Feels bad man

Hah! I feel you. The funny thing is when I looked at it a few months later, it was actually pretty straightforward. It was just that wtf moment on test day of seeing something so odd. It was panic inducing to say the least

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