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#51 fangirl11

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:25 PM

Where do we send the Dual Supplemental form to? I'm assuming someone here would know. Do we email it to OLSAS or where? Please advise. 


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#52 ryansmithjones14

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 04:11 PM

Can't remember where I sent mine way back when, but try reaching out to Brian Miller, Director of the Dual JD Program (http://www.uwindsor....dual-jd-program), or UDM's Admissions Office (http://www.law.udmer...ions/contact-us), they should be able to help you out. 


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#53 CrimNation

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 01:58 AM

Is it possible to be in the Dual JD program for the 1L and then transfer to the regular JD at Windsor for the rest of the years?

 

Thank you for clarifying.



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 11:41 PM

Is it possible to be in the Dual JD program for the 1L and then transfer to the regular JD at Windsor for the rest of the years?

 

Thank you for clarifying.

I can't speak from experience, as I have never attended Windsor, but a friend of mine transferred from the dual program at Windsor to Osgoode. She told that Windsor doesn't like students transferring from the dual to the single. However, you'll have a good shot at transferring to other Ontario schools, as the marking in the dual program is pretty generous.


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#55 CrimNation

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 01:13 AM

I can't speak from experience, as I have never attended Windsor, but a friend of mine transferred from the dual program at Windsor to Osgoode. She told that Windsor doesn't like students transferring from the dual to the single. However, you'll have a good shot at transferring to other Ontario schools, as the marking in the dual program is pretty generous.

 

I was thinking that Windsor would be accepting of the transfer as you would already have studied with Windsor and have some of their credits for a start.


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#56 CanadianJD27

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 06:10 AM

The marking is definitely not "very generous" you have to earn every single mark, which is listed as a percentage not letter, and the curve can really screw you over. Definitely not a walk in the park (source:current dual).There was I think one or two students who transferred to single JD but it's very difficult to do so, you need extenuating circumstances, they won't care about your marks. Easier to transfer to other Ontario schools. If you're sole goal of dual is to transfer I'd consider taking a year off to reapply, rewrite lsat and try and up your grades. It costs a lot of money and doesn't make sense to take up someone else's spot who may genuinely be interested in the program.

#57 ristiisa

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:52 AM

The marking is definitely not "very generous" you have to earn every single mark, which is listed as a percentage not letter, and the curve can really screw you over. Definitely not a walk in the park (source:current dual).There was I think one or two students who transferred to single JD but it's very difficult to do so, you need extenuating circumstances, they won't care about your marks. Easier to transfer to other Ontario schools. If you're sole goal of dual is to transfer I'd consider taking a year off to reapply, rewrite lsat and try and up your grades. It costs a lot of money and doesn't make sense to take up someone else's spot who may genuinely be interested in the program.

 

Are you familiar with people who have transferred to other Ontario schools? If so, how often are people successful in doing so? And could you elaborate a little on the curve. I understand it's around a "B" which is 70-75 on the Windsor percentile scale?


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#58 CanadianJD27

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 06:35 AM

Approximately 10-15 students transfer each year (about that number did in mine). Not sure how many applied but didn't get in. Our classes are on a 73-75 curve which means they take your "raw score" and adjust it artificially at the end of the semester to meet this curve. Your raw score itself doesn't matter, it's how you rank compared to others which determines your final grade. So for example let's say your final mark is 75, but the distribution of grades is 75-80, so that means you technically got the lowest mark in the class and your final grade might get dropped to 69-70 so that the class average is around that 73-75 mark. That's my understanding at least. If you're looking to exclusively get into this program to transfer, I'd advise against it. There's certainly some issues which need to be addressed but there's many people who would kill to be here, there's no guarantee you can even transfer (meaning you're taking a very expensive gamble), and the experience (classes, clinics, moots, externships, speaking engagements, etc) and the friends you make will last a life time. If you have further questions please reach out to the admin or any dual students you know. This thread is filled with trolls who love to hate on the program but aren't even duals so have 0 experience with it. Talk to the admin or actual duals. Good luck!
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Posted 25 December 2016 - 09:15 AM

Approximately 10-15 students transfer each year (about that number did in mine). Not sure how many applied but didn't get in. Our classes are on a 73-75 curve which means they take your "raw score" and adjust it artificially at the end of the semester to meet this curve. Your raw score itself doesn't matter, it's how you rank compared to others which determines your final grade. So for example let's say your final mark is 75, but the distribution of grades is 75-80, so that means you technically got the lowest mark in the class and your final grade might get dropped to 69-70 so that the class average is around that 73-75 mark. That's my understanding at least. If you're looking to exclusively get into this program to transfer, I'd advise against it. There's certainly some issues which need to be addressed but there's many people who would kill to be here, there's no guarantee you can even transfer (meaning you're taking a very expensive gamble), and the experience (classes, clinics, moots, externships, speaking engagements, etc) and the friends you make will last a life time. If you have further questions please reach out to the admin or any dual students you know. This thread is filled with trolls who love to hate on the program but aren't even duals so have 0 experience with it. Talk to the admin or actual duals. Good luck!

 

Thank you for your response! I ask regarding the transfers out of curiosity - I have no personal interest in doing so at any point. That seems like quite a substantial number of students leaving though. I appreciate your input on the curve as well, that seems to make it quite competitive if your final grade is more or less relative to your peers. I would assume this is not unique to Windsor however - I have not done my research. Thanks again for your help, all the best.


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