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#51 Scarlet

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 10:26 PM

Wow. I hope for my technological illiteracy I have helped someone as equally illiterate out there.

 

Many thanks, Uriel and kenoshakid!



#52 Uriel

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 09:52 PM

Hope that's working now!



#53 canadianlawschoolsummaries

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 11:47 AM

Not sure if this is the best place to post this but it kind of relates (feel free to move it or delete it if it's way off topic). During law school, I kind of found it difficult to get good summary materials. As you know, having good materials like what Uriel has generously posted here can make a huge difference in the time it takes to prepare for classes and exams. 

 

Most schools have a bunch of summaries on their websites but these are summaries donated by students and since not everyone is as nice as Uriel, my experience has been that most students save the good stuff for their friends and fellow members of law journals and clubs, etc, while posting their worst stuff on these sites.

 

I thought for a bit about how to make summaries more accessible to everyone (even the folks who don't want to join a pile of clubs) and thought that if we could incentivize good students to post their best material, then maybe good quality summaries would be more accessible to everyone. Maybe the incentive could be that the students could sell their stuff for a few bucks. This material would be rated by the users so that students (users) would know which ones are the best ones. I have a web design and programming background, so I spent a bit of time coding a site that might work for that purpose

 

Just wondering if you guys think this is a good idea, if there are any potential problems and whether you think people would actually use this site (as you know, if people don't want to sell their stuff then the whole thing is useless)? I'm not married to the idea and haven't invested a huge amount of time into it so feel free to let me know if the idea sucks.


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#54 connorma

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 01:21 PM

Not sure if this is the best place to post this but it kind of relates (feel free to move it or delete it if it's way off topic). During law school, I kind of found it difficult to get good summary materials. As you know, having good materials like what Uriel has generously posted here can make a huge difference in the time it takes to prepare for classes and exams. 

 

Most schools have a bunch of summaries on their websites but these are summaries donated by students and since not everyone is as nice as Uriel, my experience has been that most students save the good stuff for their friends and fellow members of law journals and clubs, etc, while posting their worst stuff on these sites.

 

I thought for a bit about how to make summaries more accessible to everyone (even the folks who don't want to join a pile of clubs) and thought that if we could incentivize good students to post their best material, then maybe good quality summaries would be more accessible to everyone. Maybe the incentive could be that the students could sell their stuff for a few bucks. This material would be rated by the users so that students (users) would know which ones are the best ones. I have a web design and programming background, so I spent a bit of time coding a site that might work for that purpose

 

Just wondering if you guys think this is a good idea, if there are any potential problems and whether you think people would actually use this site (as you know, if people don't want to sell their stuff then the whole thing is useless)? I'm not married to the idea and haven't invested a huge amount of time into it so feel free to let me know if the idea sucks.

Wow, that website is certainly aesthetically pleasing with an amazing UI. Props. For the whole 'rating' thing to work though you'll need a lot of people actually using the site.



#55 canadianlawschoolsummaries

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 02:37 PM

That's a great point. I guess I would need to add better sampling features to begin with so that people could get a good idea about what they're buying before shelling anything out by downloading sample content. Definitely not a perfect solution though, since the sample content might not be perfectly reflective of the overall content. Thanks for the positive feedback on the site design!



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 03:47 PM

^ Should also add that I think this idea could go somewhere, since commercial outlines are something that is lacking in Canadian Law school as compared to US law school. The main difference between commercial  (say the ones you can get with Barbri) and student made outlines, is that the latter are more likely to have of some mistakes. If you could somehow put together a way for qualified people to review and edit the outlines prior to them going up, I think that would add a lot of value (and actually substantiate the cost, since you can easily get outlines for free).



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 09:00 PM

I was thinking about adding a verification badge to certain outlines that have been reviewed by:

 

1) confirming the overall usability and detail (does it read well, etc.)

2) confirming the seller's grade from the course (as a proxy for accuracy)

 

This could be an optional thing for sellers but I'm wondering if it would add the credibility needed to substantiate the cost (if the site essentially said, "These are the three best summaries submitted by A students").

 

I'm guessing that the reason Canada doesn't have the stuff that the US does (though we do have Irwin Law) is that the market for law students is much smaller such that it would be cost-prohibitive to hire a real law professor to create the outline.



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Posted 19 November 2014 - 09:15 PM

IP isn't a huge part of my practice, so I may be off-base here, but I do hope that you're getting legal advice about the propriety of this as a commercial venture. Especially when you're using professors' names.


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#59 Uriel

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:13 AM

I uploaded my maps but did not upload my summaries specifically because the latter would be offside the Copyright Act.



#60 Erebus

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:20 PM

^ Should also add that I think this idea could go somewhere, since commercial outlines are something that is lacking in Canadian Law school as compared to US law school. The main difference between commercial  (say the ones you can get with Barbri) and student made outlines, is that the latter are more likely to have of some mistakes. If you could somehow put together a way for qualified people to review and edit the outlines prior to them going up, I think that would add a lot of value (and actually substantiate the cost, since you can easily get outlines for free).

 

I agree. If there were a way to verify/substantiate the quality of the outlines, I think many students would have no problem paying the fee knowing they would receive a solid foundation. Without the verification, however, I would be less inclined.