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[troyandabed]

I think I know which is correct, but can anyone confirm which of the tables linked to at the bottom are the ones the cGPAs/GPAs reported here are based on?

http://redbooks.sus..../GPA_conversion

http://www.ncu.edu.t.../gpa_charts.htm

thanks all

[KER_2012]

It depends on the school being discussed. Some schools use a 4.0 scale and others use 4.3.

Here is the OLSAS conversion table for Ontario schools.

Edited by KER_2012, 24 December 2011 - 12:01 AM.

[troyandabed]

thanks that was legit

any idea what my chances are like at the major ontario schools?

cGPA = 3.2
B2/L2 = 3.7
LSAT = 160

[KER_2012]

Your cGPA is pretty low, as is mine. I would rewrite the LSAT and aim for a 165+. I know Western weights LSAT and GPA evenly so that could work in your favour as could Windsor's holistic approach.

How are your softs (work /volunteer experience ect.)?

Where have you applied?

[troyandabed]

I actually havent applied anywhere and was thinking of applying next round, but those are my stats. Ive had one nice summer student position and some memberships in clubs mostly in my senior year.

I never broke a ~3.7 average or even close really until my 3rd year, and i maintained that until graduating. Is that good enough to count as improvement for special consideration ?

[KER_2012]

I can't speak too much about applying with special consideration, you'd have to look at individual school requirements.

If you're not applying until next cycle you have plenty of time to rewrite the LSAT again. Special consideration aside, you're going to need a higher score for Ontario school if that's where you're looking.

[muffins]

Don't apply to Ottawa or Windsor, they both like CGPAs. Shoot for 165+ and I think you have a solid shot at western and Queens. UofT and Oz are out without an incredible LSAT.

[troyandabed]

Hmm so my best shot is schools that take high LSAT scores ...

Since i started thinking about law school after i graduated, i never found out how it works if you do it earlier.
Did the hopefuls here apply whilst in their senior year or after?

[KER_2012]

troyandabed, on 24 December 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

Hmm so my best shot is schools that take high LSAT scores ...

Since i started thinking about law school after i graduated, i never found out how it works if you do it earlier.
Did the hopefuls here apply whilst in their senior year or after?

Yes, I'm in the same boat.

I think there's a mix of people who applied while in fourth year and those who applied later. I am in fourth year and applied in October.

[tng11]

muffins, on 24 December 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

Don't apply to Ottawa or Windsor, they both like CGPAs. Shoot for 165+ and I think you have a solid shot at western and Queens. UofT and Oz are out without an incredible LSAT.

Osgoode is not out with a B2 of 3.7 and 160 LSAT, judging by the early admits thread this year. A higher LSAT will improve OP's chances though.

[troyandabed]

KER_2012, on 24 December 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

Yes, I'm in the same boat.

I think there's a mix of people who applied while in fourth year and those who applied later. I am in fourth year and applied in October.

So if you apply in fourth year, is your admission based on 3 years completed or do they wait until all 4 have been done (assuming thats why people are waiting well into summer)?

[8idl]

troyandabed, on 27 December 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

So if you apply in fourth year, is your admission based on 3 years completed or do they wait until all 4 have been done (assuming thats why people are waiting well into summer)?

Based on the 3 years done, unless adcomms deem that seeing the 4th year marks would affect their decision.

[theiva4]

I got in this cycle into Oz Western Ottawa and UofM with a 160 and 3.6 so anything is possible!

[WannaBeLaw99]

Your GPA is far higher than the OP's, not really sure what your point is.

[theiva4]

My Best 2 is 3.6 and their Best 2 is 3.7. My LSAT is 160 and their LSAT is 160; not very comparable...... lol

[troyandabed]

8idl, on 27 December 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

Based on the 3 years done, unless adcomms deem that seeing the 4th year marks would affect their decision.

guess this threads been dead for a while, but if anyone is reading, would they consider your cGPA if you apply whilst in your fourth year (as in your 3rd year GPA alone would substitute for your last 2)?

Also, how important are extracurriculars really?

With these scores

cGPA = 3.2
B2/L2 = 3.7
LSAT = 160





plus an executive position in association for black students make me competitive?

[bustle]

It made me kinda sad to know that my graduate work, council positions, and professional experience would count as a soft, but many students that apply for law school have similar extracurriculars. Your softs won't make you competitive unless they are truly outstanding. Holding an executive position in a student club is pretty run of the mill unless your position allowed you to do some very unique things. For example, if you founded a black students association at a university that was experiencing rampant racism, and were able to effect some substantial policy changes at that university to foster inclusivity, then yes, that's great. However, if you were VP of events and organized some galas, ski trips and food drives, then no, that doesn't particularly stand out. You shouldn't count on softs to make up for uncompetitive stats, but rather, to set you apart from applicants who on paper, look the same.

Just re-write the LSAT, aim for 90%ile+, and apply broadly.

[whereverjustice]

bustle, on 22 February 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

However, if you were VP of events and organized some galas, ski trips and food drives, then no, that doesn't particularly stand out.

I held a position like this. In two of my acceptances (both in Ontario), the law schools cited it as a significant strength in my application. So I wouldn't downplay it so much.

[troyandabed]

bustle and whereverjustice, i guess there's no right answer but i appreciate you sharing your view points, helps me out with my decision making