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#1 redlead

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 05:59 PM

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So, in an effort to contribute to the newly invented LS.ca FAQ, I have pulled information on how each school treats your LSAT scores, GPA, and LORs because these questions seem to come up over and over. All of this information is directly quoted from the school's website, and a link to each school's FAQ is provided. Hearsay, while sometimes helpful, is not as definitive as information from the horse's mouth. Therefore, while this document is a work in progress and additions are welcomed, the most helpful information will come from the school in question :)

Questions for each school are provided in the following order:
1 - How do you treat multiple LSATs/Do you require the LSAT?
2 - How do you calculate my admissions GPA?
3 - Do you require letters of reference/How many letters of reference do you require?

UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA

We take your best LSAT score.

We consider all complete courses leading to your first undergraduate degree. If you are currently enrolled in your final year, those courses will not be included in the calculation of your GPA. We do, however, exclude 12 of your worst credits if you have a four-year degree, (the equivalent of 4 semester courses or two year long classes). If you are in your third year when you apply we will exclude 6 of your worst credits.

We do not require reference letters for applications in the Regular Category. They will not be reviewed if they are received.

http://www.law.ubc.c...spective/jd/faq

UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA

We use the highest [LSAT] score in computing our admissions index number. The LSAT may be written up to three times in a two-year period.

Where an applicant has the equivalent of more than three full years of academic courses, we disregard some of the worst grades and recalculate the GPA. For example, if you have completed a four-year degree, either three full-year courses or six term courses (or a combination of the two) will be eliminated from your GPA calculation. These deletions will be done in ascending order, commencing with your lowest grades.
For applicants with master's degrees (completed or in progress), we will first calculate a GPA based only on the undergraduate degree, and then do a second calculation using both the graduate and undergraduate grades. The higher of the two GPAs will be used to evaluate the applicant. Generally, applicants with graduate degrees qualify for a higher discount of the number of units eliminated from their GPA calculations. For example, if you have a four-year bachelor's degree (60 units) and a two-year master's program (15 to 30 units), we would eliminate between 12 and 15 units of your worst grades from your GPA.

We do not require letters of reference in our Regular category.

http://www.law.uvic.ca/faq

UNIVERSITY OF ALBERTA

The Admissions Committee averages scores where the applicant has taken the LSAT on more than one occasion. The Committee may disregard a particular LSAT score where the applicant establishes to the satisfaction of the Committee that the score was adversely affected by exceptional circumstances. However, candidates are cautioned not to sit the LSAT if they are ill, or ill-prepared.

The GPA is determined by reference to the applicant's most recent 60 units/credits (equivalent to 10 full courses or 20 half courses) of study in a recognized university degree (undergraduate or graduate), provided those units of course weight are completed by February 1st in the year in which admission is sought. This the minimum number of units/credits or courses that will be used in the assessment of an applicant's GPA.
In many cases when we count back to obtain the 60 units/credits, we may have to go part-way into an academic session (Fall/Winter or Spring/Summer). If this happens, we do not stop at the 60th unit/credit, we will use the courses and grades for that entire session (we do not break up academic sessions). Therefore, in these cases, we will use more than 60 units/credits and could very likely use courses from the applicant's first and second years of academic study. Grades of all applicants from universities other than the University of Alberta will be converted, insofar as possible, to the grading scale in use at the University, for the purpose of comparative evaluation. See grading system.

Personal statements/reference letters are not accepted in support of regular applicants.

http://www.law.ualbe...issionsllb/faqs

UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY


No. If you write the LSAT more than once, the highest score will be reported and considered when your application is reviewed. However, all scores are included in the application file for the admission committee member to view. A significant increase in score is noted by the reviewer.

The undergraduate GPA calculation is based on an applicant’s last completed 20 half courses or 60 credit equivalents. We do not take the best courses, simply the last 20 half or 10 full courses of undergraduate coursework completed. This includes undergraduate courses taken after degree and during Spring/Summer sessions. Courses must be completed prior to December 31 of the year in which application is made to be considered in the GPA calculation. Grades from graduate course work, i.e. MA or Ph.D. programs are not included in the GPA calculations, nor are grades received from International Exchange programs.

Yes, two letters of reference are required to complete the application. It is strongly recommended that they be academic references.

http://law.ucalgary..../admission/FAQs

UNIVERSITY OF SASKATCHEWAN


For applicants with multiple LSAT scores, the highest valid score will be used.

We calculate both a best-two full years' grade point average and an overall grade point average. We require a minimum of 24 credit units in the fall and winter terms per year in order to calculate a best-two years' grade point average. Summer session and intersession classes are not counted in the calculation of the best-two years' grade point average, but are counted towards your overall GPA.
For most applicants, a formula combining the LSAT score and their best 2 years GPA will have the most significant weight.

Regular applicants should not submit reference letters.

http://www.usask.ca/...qs_llb_students

UNIVERSITY OF MANITOBA


The highest LSAT score is used.
An applicant’s overall academic record is reviewed regardless if the courses were taken on a full or part time basis, in undergraduate or graduate programs, or in Regular, Evening, or Summer session. Once 90 credit hours have been earned, we begin dropping some of the worst credit hours from the calculation.
If an applicant has completed between 90-101 credit hours, we will drop 18 of the worst credit hours from the calculation; if 102-113 are earned, we drop 24; and 114+ credit hours earned, and we drop 30 of the worst credit hours.
I am applying under the Individual Consideration or Aboriginal category, where do I send my personal statement, résumé, and 3 reference letters?

http://law.robsonhall.ca/jd/faq-llb

UNIVERSITY OF WINDSOR


LSAT test scores written in December and/or February following the November application deadline will be considered. LSAT scores written more than six years prior to the academic year of application will not be considered.

This category [University Program] comprises undergraduate average and academic performance trends in light of relevant considerations; awards and prizes; the nature and content of the program taken; the level of any degree(s) or diplomas obtained.

Two letters of reference (if you attended university within the past three years, then at least one letter of reference needs to be academic in nature)

http://www.uwindsor..../law-calendar-0

UNIVERSITY OF WESTERN ONTARIO


The Admissions Committee reviews all [LSAT] scores but will focus more on the highest score, together with any documented special circumstances respecting any significant difference in scores.

The Admissions Committee considers all grades but will focus particularly on the last two full years of undergraduate study.

Two reference letters (one academic reference is required) are required in the General category.

http://www.law.uwo.c...ns2011-2012.pdf

UNIVERSITY OF OTTAWA


Only the highest LSAT score is considered by the Admissions Committee.

Undergraduate academic performance is the most significant numerical factor in the evaluation process. Most successful applicants have at least an A- average overall (CGPA).

You must also submit to OLSAS two letters of reference. While at least one reference must be from an academic source, it is preferable to have two academic references.

http://www.commonlaw...applicants.html

QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY

The Admissions Committee initially considers the average score for the ranking of applicants for scholarship purposes and ordering the files for decision by the Committee. The Admissions Committee will rely on the highest score achieved at the time of the admission decision.

Competitive applicants will have at least an “A-” average (80–84 percent, GPA 3.7) in the last two years of their undergraduate degree program. Applicants in the General category with a cumulative undergraduate average of less than a “B+” (77–79 percent, CGPA 3.30) and an LSAT score of less than 157 (72nd percentile) are not competitive for admission.

General category: A maximum of two academic references should be provided by all applicants in the General category of admission. Such applicants may file a third non-academic letter of reference.

http://law.queensu.c...nStandards.html

OSGOODE HALL, YORK UNIVERSITY


Osgoode considers an applicant’s highest [LSAT] result as reported by the LSAC in the year of application.

Our approach to reading over 3,000 applications begins with the applicant’s best 2 years cumulative gpa and LSAT score.
The best 2 years GPA is calculated based on courses complete in one calendar year of study. Courses complete in the Fall, Winter and Summer sessions contribute towards a year of study. A minimum of 60 credit hours of study (2 Years) from the home institution is required for calculating the best 2 years.

All applicants must provide at least two letters of reference (academic or non-academic). At least one academic letter of reference is recommended.

http://www.osgoode.y...st-year-program

UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO


If more than one LSAT score is reported, all LSAT scores will be seen by the Admissions Committee, but the highest LSAT score will be rconsidered.

In reviewing application files, an admissions GPA is determined from the best three years of full-time undergraduate study.

Letters of recommendation are not required, and if submitted, will not necessarily form part of the applicant's file at the time of review if the file is otherwise complete and ready for consideration by the Admissions Committee.

http://www.law.utoro...&cType=webpages

MCGILL UNIVERSITY


Applicants are not required to take the LSAT; however, if a candidate has taken or will be taking the LSAT, the score will be considered.

GPA (Grade Point Average) is calculated on all academic years, even if you have done three or four years and if you have done the same course more than once.
While the emphasis is on the applicant's undergraduate marks, any graduate work will also be considered.

Applicants must send all supporting documents to the Law Admissions Office: personal statement; résumé; official transcripts for all university studies; and two letters of recommendation (seeSupporting documents for list and mailing address).

http://www.mcgill.ca.../admissions/faq

UNIVERSITE DE MONCTON


The Faculty of Law of the Université de Moncton does not require the Law Faculty Admissions Test (LSAT). If you have already taken the test, your marks may be taken into consideration when your application is reviewed.

En juillet, vous recevrez du Registrariat les dates importantes pour votre inscription. La Faculté vous fera également parvenir l’horaire des cours et le programme de la rentrée.

Les documents suivants:... deux lettres de recommendation.

http://www.umoncton....sdadmission.pdf

UNIVERSITY OF NEW BRUNSWICK (FREDERICTON)


The Admissions Index is determined using the applicant’s re-calculated Grade Point Average (GPA) (see
below) and highest LSAT score.

The GPA is based on the applicant’s entire university academic record, including post-first degree work. If the applicant has completed three years (or equivalent), the lowest 15% of the grades are excluded from the calculation of the applicant’s re-calculated GPA; if the applicant has completed four or more years (or equivalent), the lowest 25% are excluded; if an applicant is currently in their final year of a four year degree program, the lowest 25% will be excluded.

Letters of reference, while not required, are useful when conducting Supplementary Review (see below) and determining eligibility for general scholarships.

http://www.unb.ca/fr...ssionsguide.pdf

SCHULICH SCHOOL OF LAW, DALHOUSIE UNIVERSITY


Dalhousie’s website is difficult to find information on, and I could not find a FAQ. However, this information was obtained from an official Dalhousie University, Schulich School of Law FAQ page issued at the 2011 Law School Forum by Schulich Representatives on September 9, 2011.

“If an applicant has written the LSAT multiple times we will use the highest score.”

“When assessing transcripts, we will take into consideration either the overall GPA or the last two years (10 credits), whichever is the better.”

“2 Letters of Reference (Appendix B ) – If currently attending university or have been out of school for 3 years or less, they must be academic otherwise you can submit either personal and employment letters.”

THOMPSON RIVERS UNIVERSITY


No, your highest LSAT score will be reported and considered when your application is reviewed.

No, there is no need to send us your final winter grades as we use your grades earned up until December 31st of the year you apply to calculate your GPA.

Yes, your application to TRU Law will need three letters of reference. 3 letters of reference (2 academic and 1 non-academic)

http://www.tru.ca/law/faq.html

Edited by redlead, 14 September 2011 - 06:05 PM.


#2 kathryndan

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:28 PM

Hey thanks a lot. :)

#3 rkp

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:54 PM

This is awesome!

Edited by rkp, 14 September 2011 - 06:55 PM.


#4 jin45

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:22 PM

Nice! Queen's requires at least one academic reference.

#5 lawlady123

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 09:19 PM

Wow, fantastic! Thanks :)

#6 deadMoose

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 05:28 AM

Thanks redlead for putting this together!

#7 Enhance

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:09 AM

The University of Alberta actually requires a Supplemental Admissions Form which is kind of like a Personal Statement.

http://www.law.ualbe...nts/ISF2009.pdf

Would be a good element to add to your guide.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 12:18 PM

you are awesome

#9 redlead

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 12:24 PM

View Postfeelings, on 23 September 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

you are awesome

I am nerdy. Awesomely nerdy? Nerdily awesome? Perhaps. I leave it to the anonymous members of this forum to decide ;)

#10 nreisenb

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 09:54 PM

please make this thread stick to the top of this forum? It is incredibly useful and sometimes it can be a bit tough to find.

thanks to the authors

#11 WannaBeLaw99

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 04:27 PM

Bump Bump Bump, this should be stickied.

#12 mcpeazy

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:43 PM

View Postredlead, on 14 September 2011 - 05:59 PM, said:


SCHULICH SCHOOL OF LAW, DALHOUSIE UNIVERSITY[/b]

Dalhousie’s website is difficult to find information on, and I could not find a FAQ. However, this information was obtained from an official Dalhousie University, Schulich School of Law FAQ page issued at the 2011 Law School Forum by Schulich Representatives on September 9, 2011.

“If an applicant has written the LSAT multiple times we will use the highest score.”

“When assessing transcripts, we will take into consideration either the overall GPA or the last two years (10 credits), whichever is the better.”

“2 Letters of Reference (Appendix B ) – If currently attending university or have been out of school for 3 years or less, they must be academic otherwise you can submit either personal and employment letters.”
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Can anyone confirm the statement I bolded and underlined regarding GPA? Also, a source would be nice (I know he mentioned his but it's rather intangible). My first two years are (relatively) terrible and last two years very good. Thanks!

#13 redlead

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 05:48 AM

View Postmcpeazy, on 03 November 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

Can anyone confirm the statement I bolded and underlined regarding GPA? Also, a source would be nice (I know he mentioned his but it's rather intangible). My first two years are (relatively) terrible and last two years very good. Thanks!

I put a picture of the document on flickr

http://www.flickr.co...N02/6312109914/

And not that it matters very much, but I'm a she. I know, I know, Bert and Ernie. But I love them so much!

Edited by redlead, 04 November 2011 - 05:49 AM.


#14 BrianGriffintheDog

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 02:33 PM

I will save this under my favourites.

Thanks

#15 eastvanistan

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:05 PM

Great post (should definitely be stickied!)...

Its remarkable how different the methodologies are and how different the CGPAs are that result from them! I have an MA degree with a 4.0 GPA and comparable grades in the last few semesters of my BA. When the U of A calculates my CGPA (using the most recent 60 credits) its over 3.8, but when UBC calculates my CGPA using only my undergrad grades I fall down to a 3.35. I score even lower when you take only my 'full years' of undergrad grades (as does U of T), as these were my earlier ones.

Its not always clear which schools will consider *all* of your most recent courses (like the U of A) or just those leading to an undergrad degree (UBC). For those seeking admission to the former kind, it seems that you could just take lots of easy 'basket weaving 101'-type intro courses until your GPA is high enough to gain admission. Hell, if I didn't already have an offer that's probably what I'd do!

#16 NightOwl

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:09 AM

There's more info on Dalhousie's admissions here:

http://law.dal.ca/Pr...D.)/Admissions/

"In assessing applications, emphasis is placed primarily on an applicant's academic record and LSAT score. The Admissions Committee also considers non-academic experience, letters of reference and other factors in making its decisions. Interviews by the Admissions Committee of applicants with significant non-academic experience may be held at the discretion of the Committee."

#17 ilyaheath

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:33 AM

Just to confirm, online courses count towards one's GPA if they are taken in the highest 2 years for Osgoode, and the highest 3 years for U of T, yes? I was planning on taking a semester of all online courses.





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