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  1. First Year - Course Withdrawals

    Assuming you are talking about law schools forgiving poor first year grades I don’t disagree with you. What maybe got lost in translation above is how well you have to do following a bad first year. I know I didn’t get an A- in the last 2.5 years of my degree, which I’m not arguing is impressive, but when the avg B3 GPA is only something like a 3.84 at UofT, it can make up for a bad first year to them.
  2. First Year - Course Withdrawals

    Sounds like you have your answer, by fwiw, I had an objectively terrible first year grades-wise for a variety of reasons. Like you so far, I improved my grades substantially in the years that followed. This cycle I have gotten into all of the schools I applied to, including UofT (which I only mention due to the presumption that it has relatively high academic entrance standards), even with my first year affecting my GPA. So you’re totally fine, just get really good grades from here on. Re addressing your first year grades in your ps: I didn’t outside of maybe saying I had a drink too many or had a very humbling experience. I think they care more about what you can add to the school, so I’d talk about that.
  3. You should think about recording this as a motivational speech for law school 0Ls. I’m not going to be able to sleep for hours. But seriously, this is the kind of response I was hoping for. Thank you.
  4. Providence, I keep thinking that I have met extremely smart people, and then I read things like this. Kind of just playing around, but seriously, what you are talking about doing requires a very rare amount of intellect. Less than 1% of the population kind of rare; by far even, most likely. Really helpful post, reinforces how important being able to think about the law and how to properly apply it to various legal issues is, which I would think is pretty much independent of how much work you do. In some ways, I have never felt less confident about anything than my ability to do as well as i hope to in 1L. I think that knowing that a person who has achieved what you did in 1L felt this way too reassures and does a lot of good for many people that have been accepted to law school. Lmao
  5. Haha, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to come off as though I was disregarding the point you were making by mentioning those extremely accomplished people. But I think I get what you’re saying: law school is actually hard, even for the smartest and most accomplished people (unlike undergrad for many of these people), there are more accomplished people than you have ever competed against before, and that statistics are a decent measurement of ability but one that should be extrapolated to any significant degree; nothing should be taken for granted. I have a huge amount of respect for that approach too (great mix of examples btw) and look forward to the opportunity to demonstrate it myself. I am a big fan of the knowledgeable, completely undramatic, and realistic perspective you bring to these discussions and truly appreciate you adding that here.
  6. Hoju, I have read a fair chunk of posts by you, and I think anyone would agree that you’re clearly extremely gifted. I was just trying to do what I can to make sure I don’t leave myself in a position where I’m not prepared to achieve the things I hope to. I dream of going into 1L (sorry for using the term, at least it’s not 0L though) and achieving what you did. But I don’t know if I will or not. And if I don’t and there are things I could have done that might have helped me that I didn’t do, I feel that I would probably regret not doing those things. I would like to not feel that way is all. Input like yours is what I was hoping for - appreciate you taking the time to contribute.
  7. Thanks for this! That’s what I had thought, but some posts on here can make it seem like it can be some kind of alternate dimension where smart people find themselves in a situation where they don’t know what’s going on. Nice to know its not all that different from undergrad in a lot of ways when it really comes down to it.
  8. That’s the one! Agreed that that is a very particular circumstance. By the sounds of things I would expect that their GPAs would have to have been nearly perfect and their LSATs above 170 with remarkable ECs. I just thought it was interesting that none of them lost them, and that you had the same scholarship and also had outstanding success at law school. Thats also really interesting and not something I would have guessed. Appreciate you sharing. Would not have expected this either but makes sense. Interesting and still somewhat surprising given the established relationship between LSAT performance and law school only being .4. Guess maybe what they didn’t consider there was how hard the students worked in law school. Thanks for your input!
  9. Haha, thanks for the helpful response! This is what I was hoping for lol. That's kind of what I figured, I suppose; some of the posts on here had just made me curious. Thanks again.
  10. I think you're being a bit dramatic. It's a pointless argument that neither of us will get anything out of and I would guess both of us have better things to be doing. Also, if you go through these boards, you might notice how some of the most successful law students and lawyers sometimes come off with a no-bullshit attitude. Bob is a pretty good example. I would think his posts can certainly seem more aggressive than mine to some people at times, yet he did phenomenally well in law school and as far as I can tell in practice thereafter. I don't get the point of these kinds of comments. I was just trying to end a pointless argument. Totally different than backing out of a meaningful debate. And now the post has been derailed, lol.
  11. You just commented "calm down" and nothing else on a post, then called one of my posts condescending. Mine was lighthearted, you were solely trying to stir the pot (sure, you'll deny this, but when has telling someone to "calm down", especially on a public interface, ever made them any calmer? You weren't born yesterday). Anyway, I am not going to engage in a back and forth with such a creature.
  12. If you are referring to the initial part of what I said, I am quoting the big lebowski. I respect chaboy's opinion and was trying to make light of our initial disagreement. The second part is a potentially helpful tidbit. I don't see how I'm demonstrating any level of anger or frustration in my post, to be honest with you, but would welcome you to point it out to me.
  13. I understand; but that's just, like, your opinion, man. Something that may actually be helpful for you: when you unnecessarily put words in quotation marks ("difficulty"), it can look very "silly". Not that I have any experience worth talking about relatively speaking, but I have seen a judge openly mock a lawyer in court for doing so. Anecdotal, but still. Admittedly, though, she was fairly aggressive with her quoting.
  14. Thank you, helpful response. Makes sense! Interesting to hear. Wasn't really expecting a strong correlation. Have just seen posts by erinl2 etc. saying that all of the people she knows who got a certain scholarship met the requirements for said scholarship (top 20% of their class) which made me wonder if this could be extrapolated to any degree. Thanks for your insights bob. As a 0L with nothing insightful to say, why did you even comment? Is this supposed to be helpful in any way, or are you just having a bad day? Lol
  15. I have read a number of threads on the topic of how to succeed in 1L and noticed there is no real consensus, and don't expect there to be one now. However, I was wondering if there was any way of reasonably accurately ascertaining our chances of having success in 1L? To elaborate, it seems that a lot of the people at the law school I will be attending have averages in between an A- and an A. In my final years of university, I received relatively significantly better marks than individuals with such cGPAs in my program. This was while I was taking more/generally harder courses and without working any harder than them (probably less hard, just because my commitments outside of university took 5+ hours of my day throughout the week and 3ish hours a day on weekends). I don't mean to come off as arrogant or presumptuous here, but I have seen posts that suggest that if you received some certain scholarship from law schools and were thus that competitive of a law school applicant, you generally will be at the top of your class in law school (can link posts if necessary). Would be helpful and interesting to know how much harder I will have to work (if that's the case), if I should be changing my habits, etc., which an answer to this could potentially help many people determine.