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  1. First year law-related summer jobs are not easily found in Vancouver (other than a couple internships, no large Vancouver law firms take on first year students). There are a handful of legal internships at various companies and you may be able to get positions at smaller law firms (but these are usually not advertised and many times you may have to convince them to create a new position for you). For second year summer jobs, I hear there are more positions - I wouldn't say they are "easily" found though. It is a competitive process - at Allard, about 25-30% of students seem to land big firm summer jobs in their second year. Talking to some firm representatives, there does seem to be an upward trend in hiring for the legal market in Vancouver right now, but take that as you will. Not sure what it's like for smaller firms/other areas of law though.
  2. I know for sure that they used to give them at the very least.. but they are not advertised through the Allard website. Firms seem to give them individually (for example, http://www.ahbl.ca/students/student-life/scholarships/). Not sure how they compare between small groups either
  3. UBC vs UVIC vs QUEENS vs DAL

    conge's advice is most likely the best one you'll get. Personally, my decision to attend UBC was motivated by the tuition price + the fact that I would get to stay at home - this would mean I would be graduating with much less debt than students at other schools. I don't think any of those schools are particularly more focused on corporate law than others. UBC does have a business law concentration + a few types of business law clinics but I wouldn't be surprised if other schools had similar types of options. I do see quite a few non-BC law students get summer/articling positions in BC and vice versa so I don't think you will be closing off doors to other markets if you end up wanting to work in a different province in the future regardless of what school you pick (but for networking purposes, it will obviously be best to attend the school in the location where you want to work).
  4. 1L book costs?

    I think it would depend on what book your professor uses. There was a lot of variety between small groups in my first year class. Ranged from 300-1000
  5. Potential Vancouver Salary Bump?

    I noticed on NALP that Cassels Brock in Vancouver offers 1100/week salary for summer students/articling students and 110k first year associate salary. Can anyone confirm this? This would seem to make them the top paying firm in Van.
  6. 1L Paid Summer Opportunities

    Not sure what market you are in. In Vancouver there are not many opportunities. No 1L recruit, only two big firm positions, RA positions, various inhouse legal internships at different companies, clinic positions. At Allard, most of these positions were posted on the student career website and most of the postings came up in the weeks leading to finals. I know of a few students who got legal jobs at companies/small firms through their own research/cold calling/connections.
  7. You probably have a pretty good chance. Got in last cycle with similar stats and saw quite a few other people with similar stats get in this cycle in the accepted thread. Also the calculator up above and the index formula in the thread are pretty accurate in terms of determining your chances so check those out!
  8. 2018 1L Toronto Recruit

    PFO from Blakes and Davies, but received nothing from A&B and Dentons. Applied on a whim, but not expecting any ITCs based on grades. Do firms usually send out PFOs to everyone they don't offer an interview to?
  9. 1L Grades and Summer Jobs

    I am at Allard but looking at and open to options out in Calgary and Toronto. Thanks for the response! I figured as much but thought I would post just in case
  10. 1L Grades and Summer Jobs

    Forgot the comma = legal research and writing, criminal
  11. 1L Grades and Summer Jobs

    Hey everyone! I was wondering if anyone can provide some insight about the impact of 1L grades on your prospects of getting an interview for the firm jobs in Toronto and/or Calgary. I ended up getting 3 A- (Property, Legal Research and Writing, Criminal), 3 B (Torts as one of them) and 1 C. But the C was in Contracts, which I have understood to be one of the important courses for firm jobs and probably summer legal jobs in general. As a result of the C, my total average drops to 75%, which I assume is less important than doing better in specific courses like Property, Contracts and Torts. What would be the impact of this grade on my chances of getting an interview and/or job for 1L summer in Calgary or Toronto with big firms? Please let me know if there is more info that is required to give a better answer !
  12. Well SFU's grading scales depends on the major. I was a psych major and also took many crim course. Most of our psych classes were scaled: top 10-20% automatically get within the A range, next 10-20% get Bs, etc (the scale also depended on the size of the classes, the course and the prof). So in some classes, an 88% would end up being an A+. I know Crim was quite difficult though with the non-curved grading scale already mentioned (95% being A+). Most of the comments above are pretty accurate. At Allard, this year's first year class had like 50% social sciences/arts backgrounds if I remember correctly.. I could be wrong. But in general there doesn't seem to be a particular major that is best suited. From anecdotal experience, I think most people struggled with trying to get the hang of legal writing in the first month of class where some of the essay or legal writing assignments were due, regardless of whether they came from an Arts or Science background. I will say this though. I took quite a few crim courses at SFU (mostly the legal ones - 135, 230, 330, 332, 335, 338). They were all pretty tough to get into the A or A+ range, however, they have proved to be useful to me at the least. Particularly 230, 332 and 335. I had read quite a few of the cases that we went over and some of the concepts felt a bit like review in class. Having said that, the advantage is slight. I enjoyed the undergrad courses but the extent of detail required for law school often requires more depth.
  13. You should get in! I got accepted last cycle with near identical stats. I heard someone got in this cycle with similar stats as well in the other threads.
  14. I had my first year in general sciences. Finished my degree as a Psych major and took quite a bit of crim courses to get a legal studies minor + certificate. The crim courses that I took (330, 335, 338 in particular) were tougher to do well in than the psych courses, mostly as a result of ther stricter grading scale - no room for curving or scaling even if say you had the highest grade in the class.. Psych was scaled, so as long as you did better than your classmates, it didn't really matter what grade you got. In terms of commuting, I commuted to SFU 1-1.5 hour one way, though I didn't go to many of my classes, especially when they were the larger classes with no participation marks. I personally found it not too bad, but I am also someone able to finish readings on the bus/skytrain. i didn't do my undergrad at UBC because it would have been an even longer commute, so I don't know if I would recommend transferring schools just to get the higher converted GPA but I guess it does depend on your personal circumstances. I am currently commuting 3 hours total for law school and though it is time consuming and tiring, it hasn't been the worst thing and I do think I'll finish off the rest of the year at the least transiting.
  15. I'm a SFU student at UBC Law right now. I had a relatively high GPA so it wasn't too much of an issue for me, but I know of friends from SFU who had within the 3.7-3.9 range that got in as well. At the end of the day though, UBC Law looks at your gpa and lsat as a 50/50 split. I bombed one section on the lsat and got a score way below the UBC median but my gpa brought me up to get me in. On the other hand, my friends who had slightly lower GPAs did much better than me on the LSAT, getting within the upper 160s to low 170s. So as long as you study hard, stay within the upper end of 3.67 (which I know can be harder relative to what program you are in) you have control over your admission. Plus, the LSAT is such a learnable exam, so don't be too worried about all this. If worst comes to worst, just spend some more time on the LSAT and make sure you adjust to your gpa accordingly.
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