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  1. Or add things that they only think of after already posting a few times.
  2. Honestly, I just see it interfering with people's ability to develop their thoughts through dialogue...
  3. I don't really see anything wrong with people commenting repeatedly on the same thread... what good would be served by limiting the number of replies?
  4. Looking for advice -

    First of all, good on you for finishing your first undergrad in spite of serious health concerns. That takes perseverance! There are definitely some people (not many, mind you) who have done multiple bachelors before going to law school). I can't speak to which degree U of T considered more heavily, if any, when deciding on admission. I'm curious about why you want to go through a whole other bachelor's degree - is it a matter of switching to a whole new area of interest? If not, why not go for a masters in whatever you got your first degree in? I think that if you explained your medical situation in your application, the GPA would be something the adcom takes into account. Doing well in a more advanced course of study - getting published, doing serious research, is a great way to gain and show off some academic skills and to show that you're focused and dedicated to your studies. IMHO doing multiple bachelors looks odd.
  5. [Job] Opportunities: how is the school doing in terms of summer placements in all years? What are the articling rates? What kinds of jobs do alumni have, and how much are they making? Are they jobs I would want? Does it seem like they are still drowning in debt years after graduation? Program: courses; what the school is known for; clinics and extra-curricular activities; what do I know about the people there (students, faculty, staff, alumni) Location: where I currently live; where I want to live during school (familiarity with the city/quality of life/commute time/moving costs/proximity to supports and friends); where I want to practice Cost: To be balanced against prospective job opportunities/ availability of bank loans/family help/personal resources
  6. I would like to go on an exchange semester in 3L, but also secure articles and not screw myself over in any way with regard to bar admission studying/exams. Recommendations? I also can't find a thread talking about what courses are best to take while on exchange (i.e., better to take international law courses, or better to learn about local law?). I understand that these vary by university, but what have people found to be more useful? Thanks!
  7. This is what I've understood from living and renting in Toronto in the past couple of years: I feel like I know people who live in a house like 20 mins from campus with 4-6 others who pay between 650-800/month. The houses are generally not in the best shape though. for 800-1000 -- you can probably get an apartment within 20 minutes' walking radius to campus, if you're sharing with 2 other roommates (so three people in total). for 950-1100 -- you can probably share an apartment close to campus with one roommate for 1100-1300 - you can find some bachelor apartments in the less-nice buildings 15-20 minutes away from campus OR share a nice apartment close to campus with one roommate for 1300-1400 -- bachelors closer to campus 1400-2000 -- one bedrooms near campus It's definitely possible to find a bachelor 15mins walk from campus for under 1100/month, but it's really hard, and took me several months of searching. That's my two cents
  8. I particularly second the comment on study groups! Very helpful. As to the risk, it seems like U of T students mostly end up more or less where they want to be AND/OR somewhere decently well-paid. The risk doesn't seem terrible (I say, in 1L and having acquired a law-related job for the summer).
  9. Hi! From where I stand as a 1L, it seems like if you have a promising job in finance lined up (and that job stands a good chance of leading to the kind of career you want), then your choice is more or less made for you! If you're thinking about law school because you actually don't really want a career in finance (or think that it might be something you're going to get sick of in a few years) then things get a little more complicated. I'm assuming that you want to go into law in order to do corporate law -- if that's not the case, and it's really a completely different career trajectory that you're after, then that's a different story. If you have an open mind and aren't fixed on a single path within law, then you increase your chances of finding something that suits you career-wise. Now, to your questions: 1. Do you think you were able to accurately assess whether you'd excel or struggle in law school and, if so, how did you know? I didn't think too much about this actually. I was never a super-duper student (though always a reasonably good one), so I assumed I would be around middle of the pack in law school, since the crowd is a "better-at-school" one. I think I've been correct on that so far. 2. Do you feel like you have a good understanding of how you're doing in a class before and after you write the exam? Bwahahaha. No one can tell with complete certainty how well they're going to do on an exam before... or even after they write an exam. I think that on the upper and lower extremes, it's pretty clear, but it's definitely hard to tell whether your work is an "H" or not. If you find it easy to apply the cases you've read to new fact patterns/ have a good grasp about how different factors will affect the outcome of a case, that's a sign that you're on track, but that doesn't necessarily translate into high grades if everyone else also has that solid grasp. In any case, you can feel good about answering your non-law friend's questions about what counts as manslaughter, or what a joint tenancy is. 3. Is there anything I can look at now to get a sense of how I'll stack up against the rest of the 1L class? Some people say your LSAT percentile relative to the rest of the class is a good measure. I have no idea if that's true. Other than that, I found that a surprisingly telling factor for assignments is someone's ability to listen carefully to, and follow instructions. People who just skim over assignment sheets/ don't check in with the professors about requirements/ don't read things carefully tend to do worse. This is just common sense, but it seems exceptionally important in law school (and now everyone knows that I at one point didn't read an assignment carefully). 4. If you went through the OCI process, did the result line up with your expectation going in? Didn't go through it. I heard it lives up to people's expectations, though.
  10. You can do as many volunteer positions with clinics as you want, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. One clinic is generally enough to get client-facing experience (though I'm told that this does vary by clinic) -- u of t has a lot of other cool groups and clubs to build legal skills/ other relevant skills while doing concrete things. Some of the IHRP working groups offer really interesting opportunities to learn technical skills, I hear.
  11. Clinics at Osgoode and U of T

    At U of T, the Downtown Legal Services clinics and PBSC are completely lottery-based (though you get to rank your choices); and the Advocates for Injured Workers clinic is merit-based. The clinic courses, which come in upper years, are merit-based to my understanding, and may require some kind of special application.
  12. Ask a 3L!

    I sure agree that struggle builds character, but if we're going to develop our own career direction using our wits and experience, we shouldn't have to pay the salaries of CDO officials. If we're paying, we might as well have the option of allowing our guts to go soft as we get shepherded into careers. I'm kidding of course. I do agree that there are skills that come with being able to find a job on one's own, but celebrating the inadequacies of the CDO feels too much like celebrating our tuition money burning, burning, burning....
  13. Ask a 3L!

    They didn't explicitly order me to become a corporate lawyer -- they told me to apply to "all" the firms, and to express my interest in their practice areas. Then, the person enumerated a bunch of business law firms that were hiring my year.
  14. Ask a 3L!

    I should also add that I would be shocked if this differed by law school. I by no means wanted to imply this is a U of T thing.