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  1. Applicant information from Windsor leaked

    Sometimes I am reminded that you're a 78 year old 6th? year associate.
  2. Applicant information from Windsor leaked

    If anyone does have concerns, Dean Waters and Assistant Dean Herlehy are really fantastic people, I wouldn't hesitate to get in touch.
  3. D+ average in 1L: Feel Broken

    Lesson: Be like me. My undergraduate transcript looks like a Jackson Pollock. "A- here, C there, B- there, Oh hey a B+!". By the time I made it to law school I was more than accustomed to the litany of possible grades. Seriously though, you have a whole semester, focus on the controllable.
  4. Admissions Anxiety

    Not to burst the bubble, but that's not a 2 hour via. Closer to 2.5 or 3. Especially when you factor in delays. Still doable though. Hell, there are profs at Queen's that via or fly in every Monday and leave everything Thursday. Same at Windsor. OP is a shoe in at at least one Toronto school regardless. Especially once they see that 169.
  5. 2L Vancouver vs Toronto

    I'm tinted by the Queen's perspective, I was told flat out by a recruiter that most firms set a A- cut-off for Queen's this year. I was coming with an average of 79.something and only one B grade (a 74 in a non-black letter course), the rest were B+ to A. I've asked multiple firms if my transfer hurt me, and none think it did. I had people on here telling me to expect between 5-10, I worked my ass off, workshopped my cover letters, edited tirelessly, and tried to make a case, but in the end I got one OCI. For all I know I was 51st out of 50 for an OCI at any number of firms, that's just the way it goes. I would say, however, that if you give a shit the time cost to apply is significant. Your last paragraph is fair, and I definitely won't actively discourage anyone from applying, but I, like you, want to manage expectations.
  6. 2L Vancouver vs Toronto

    Also, you can throw a lot of the common trends out the window in this time of increased enrollment. You have a lot of people here that will tell you to expect 10 Toronto OCIs if you have a B+ average including a few A-'s/A's. I can tell you from experience that's not the case. The reality is that enrollment has gone up, meaning more A grades, and it's pushed the cutoffs up as well because firms aren't hiring that many more students.
  7. Crown Attorney summer/articling question

    From what I understand, going northern is the way in for many crowns. It's a tough place to get hired overall, but once you're in the system the bureaucracy helps you out when you want to move.
  8. Solicitor Solo AMA

    Were you heavily involved in real estate before law school? Were you a broker or something like that? If not, how did you hustle your clients at the start?
  9. Accepted to Queen's 2018

    It's hard to say there are any. Western placed 49 students on Bay this year to 50 from Queen's (if that matters to you), both have solid business schools on campus (though Smith is undoubtedly ahead of Ivey currently). London is a bit bigger at 300k pop to Kingston's 100k or so. From what I understand, London is significantly more spaced out, which isn't the case in Kingston. You don't need a car to live here at all. The quality of education isn't going to be significantly different, either. We may have slightly better profs and more experiential learning opportunities, but I'm not sure given how little I know about Western's law school. I have some friends who are there and who are happy, who am I to judge? Really, it's going to come down to how you feel about the respective cities. I love pretty much everything about Kingston, from the limestone buildings to the waterfront to the awesome food and beer scenes. But then, I've been coming here since childhood and went to Queen's for my undergrad. Others are going to feel the same about London. My advice would be to visit both campuses, walk around a bit, walk around the cities, read the respective course offerings, look at tuition figures, look at any scholarships you may have. Then go with your gut as to where you're going to operate best and be happiest.
  10. Accepted to Queen's 2018

    Congratulations to all of you! If any of you have questions about the school or the city, please feel free to ask and I'll try my best to answer your questions.
  11. I've never heard of any transcripts having mid-term grades on them at all. Maybe unofficials that you'd use for 1L jobs but not official transcripts. I can't imagine any firm caring that the guy with an A- had a B at mid term, especially given the rollercoaster adjustment that is 1L. In fact, some law schools actively refuse even unofficial transcripts.
  12. I wouldn't take that as a sign of anything. Last year my Torts final was a total shitshow, a 2 hour sprint to the finish. It didn't help that the prof had told the class what the weighting was for each question in class and then changed it and added a question in the exam. I left my exam basically praying for a B. Got an 86 for an A. And that doesn't change, I left one exam last semester feeling fairly confident I had hit my points and did well, B grade. Left another and basically shrugged my shoulders, A. You can never really know.
  13. Attention transfer students

    Okay, I'll take a bit of a run at this while also trying to preserve a bit of anonymity, knowing full well anyone who knows me could sniff out who I am. I'm a current transfer student, I transferred for a few reasons, not the least of which was wanting to be closer to my long-term girlfriend. It's a tough road, and I didn't even have the hardest one possible. I transferred back to my alma mater, I knew the city, knew where to live, knew people on campus. One of my best friends also attends the school and was able to introduce me to people and show me the ropes. Even still it is starting over again, and you do lose a significant portion of your support system. It took me a full semester to really feel like I started to find a fit, and that's only because I got myself involved and tried hard to get out and meet people. I was willing to say hi to people in class, to shake a lot of hands, to join the random intramural team or play in the golf tournament, etc. You gotta go in willing to do that or it's gonna suck. I can't imagine what it would have been like had I not known the city and known no one in the program. I didn't need to make up any 1L classes, and the application process is the same as it is for Ontario schools. You submit a OLSAS application along with transcripts in early May. I completed 1L with a 79% average, which gets boosted if you forget about the 74 in a non-black letter course. I got early acceptance into U of T transfer with those grades, and then parlayed that into an offer from my current school. I was also fairly involved in 1L. It's not the easiest road to take, but it's not necessarily a terrible one either. Transferring has been good for me in a number of ways, it's made me a harder worker for sure. But go in knowing that the grass isn't completely greener, there are trade offs in the process.
  14. Ryerson Law by 2020 - Letter of Intent

    I think you're undervaluing it. It's not about bumping into someone by chance, it is about having a little bit more access if you want it. They aren't going to go to bat for you, but they will recognize your name and it may get your foot in the door, and after that it will be on you. Here's my anecdotal example, post OCI recruitment I reached out to a recruiter at a firm who I had met the previous year at an event. I asked for some feedback and he seemed surprised I hadn't had more interviews than I did. He also mentioned that knowing the name on the page was an added plus. I don't think that's a coincidence. I still didn't get the job, and that's on me, but I got a starting interview, and I think chatting with him played a role. Obviously not all of these chats are going to bear any fruit past the general knowledge you gain from meeting another lawyer (which is valuable in its own right). That why you can't take it personally when you have what you think is a great discussion only to not get an interview. But the process as a whole is about a whole bunch of marginal gains that lead to getting your foot in the door, an extra half letter grade here, a coffee there, etc. I'll also make a note on the firm open houses during the summer, because I think a lot of firms forget this. Many law students work post 1L, and many of them don't have glitzy 9-5 office jobs. I would have loved to have attended some 5pm open houses for drinks and networking opportunity, but I worked in the service industry, where nights and weekends are where you make your cash. Those events were starting when I was starting my work day, and I suspect it was the same for many others. Maybe they just don't want to attract that kind of student, but I suspect that it's a time convenient to them and they don't think much further than that.
  15. Ryerson Law by 2020 - Letter of Intent

    Please show me where I said that.