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  1. 1. Salary ranges are hard to guess, most are negotiated. I would hazard a guess though that TB in general pays less, but that said you $ goes further here. Also, a lot of places will pay you based on your productivity or clients you have. An “eat what you kill” type situation. 2. I’m not sure on this one. 3. We don’t have a huge sample size to draw from (2 graduating classes) but I believe they were all able to find employment, if they left Thunder Bay most had to article, but a large majority of firms here are open to hiring as associates after we pas the bar (note: no government positions will hire you without articling) 4. Honestly, the private practice focus has essentially been tossed out the windows now. But, we do have seminars on how to start your own law business, and our focus on practical skills such as drafting and litigations skills would set us apart from Ottawa u - ie. If you want to set up your own practice, you’ll have more practical skills out of school from lakehead than you would from Ottawa. Also, we do have alumni who have set ups their own businesses right out of lawschool, and they’re always around to pick their brain if you wanted to 5. I actually think having another language would be useful. Depending On the language of course. We are having an influx of people from all over coming to Thunder Bay, and there could be a need for someone who speaks different languages to assist those communities.
  2. 1L Summer Job

    Just from my own experience getting a 1L job is hard, the hiring for 1L's where I am (Thunder Bay) was almost completely random. Many employers here weren't asking for grades, but many were asking questions to see if you'd fit in their firm or organization. Lots of questions like "what's your favourite and least favourite subject and why, what extracurriculars do you do, do you want to stay in Thunder Bay, what kind of law do you think you want to practice" etc. Also, many people in my year were able to take unpaid positions and get a grant from the school in order to make some money and get that experience they need. I'd say around 70% of my 1L class (60 people) are working in the legal field during this summer but again, I think especially for 1L there isn't too much differentiating us, so they seeemed to hire based on personality and whether you jive with the partners!
  3. Lol it's funny/horrifying that they did this, especially considering the capacity restraints of our small classrooms, faculty etc. It'll be interesting to see how the first week or so goes.
  4. Scholarships

    I'm unsure about scholarships, but our issue was bursaries - pretty much everyone was promised one, and it was not delivered, with almost no explanation for the entire school year
  5. Scholarships

    "Lol" is the best I can say about scholarships. They overpromske and under deliver. Almost everyone in the 1L class last year was guaranteed a bursary and maybe 10 people ended up getting one. Also, 18k is one of the cheapest law schools in Ontario I believe.
  6. Well, there's still a chance to be accepted off the wait list! Your journey isn't over yet! i imagine the next round of admissions will go out towards the end of the month once the schools have a solid idea of where they are after the first firm deadline don't give up hope!!
  7. Lakehead VS Windsor

    Your entitled to your opinion, but it seems to be enough to be considered an equivalent by the bar and law society since it was approved. It's all about what you make of the experience. Again, any grad of lakehead who wants to article is free to do so - you just don't HAVE to, so it is a moot point really.
  8. Lakehead VS Windsor

    We go into a law firm (our placements are all over Ontario) they can be private practice or with the government (AG or crown) and we act as junior lawyers essentially. We have files, we can go to court alone, and we do what a regular 1st year associate would do. From people who have done this (I'm still only in 1L) the crown is one of the best placements for actual court time - placement students spend 1 day a week (generally) in court prosecuting (small offences I would assume). So yeah, I guess you would say it's inferior to articling in the sense that you only do it for 4 months, but that coupled with our revised curriculum (intensively practical approach to the study of law) more then preps us for practice (in my opinion of course)
  9. Lakehead VS Windsor

    Re the articling; At lakehead you do not have to article, you write the bar after you finish 3L and can work as a fully licenced lawyer. Depending where you want to practice - this is useful. Our grads (who went back to Toronto or surrounding areas) have in some instances had to article anyways - change in the law curriculum is not quick, so it'll take some time to see if the need to not article will be useful for us in Toronto. But, if you're looking to practice in a smaller market, you may be more likely to not have to article - depends on the jobs you apply for I suppose.
  10. U of M vs. Bora Laskin (Lakehead)

    Yes it does, we don't generally do any 100% exams, instead we do 2 assignments for each course worth 15-20% each, and the rest of the marks are exams. The assignments themselves are things like drafting memos, negotiations, moot courts, bail hearings, statements of claim, statements of defence, etc. It's a really good chance to apply your book knowledge to the actual documents you would draft, also makes for a good "portfolio" of material so that when you go for interviews they know you already know how to write a legal memo or statement of claim in your sleep Also, we have a full course in 1L that is called aboriginal perspectives where you go into the community and learn from elders and other community leaders about aboriginal issues and such. You need to do 36 hours of that in your first year to go on to the second, so that's all pretty intensively hands on And yes, there is no need to article, we will write the bar the months following our graduation, June I believe? Many students did not have to article if they stay in a small town, but I do know people who ended up in government or firms in Toronto and they still had to article - so that's a choice they made willingly to get those opportunities.
  11. U of M vs. Bora Laskin (Lakehead)

    I am a current student at lakehead, I do like it here. I would disagree with posters who say lakehead is only for northern Ontario or small town law. There are placements back down south in Toronto and the GTA as well as ottawa. Obviously, there are more placement opportunities up here in Thunder bay, but you do have the choice. Also, lakehead has the benefit of not needing to article, which is a bonus. And finally, I'd say that from our charter class, they haven't had trouble going down south and finding jobs, since we obviously don't go to the networking events In Toronto, it isn't as easy (same would be true of U of M) but it is doable all depends on what you want to work for. And generally, I would go to school in the provinces in which you want to practice
  12. While the above posters are correct, if you are interested in aboriginal law, I would also suggest Bora Laskin. They have 2 mandatory first year course on aboriginal issues (indigenous legal issues and aboriginal perspectives) as well as a mandatory 2nd year course on aboriginal law and other elective courses Also, we have placement opportunities with aboriginal law firms, as well as research opportunities with professors who work in the field. Also, we do get frequent speakers on the topic. If it's what you want to do, I would suggest bora laskin.
  13. Ask a Charter Class member

    Hey! Yes generally it's 6 courses at a time First semester: Torts Constitutional Criminal Foundations (online; ends after reading week in October) Contracts Indigenous legal traditions Winter: Constitutional Criminal Torts Contracts Property Professional responsibility (legal ethics) I'm only in first year, so I don't really know how many courses upper Years take, but I do know for a fact there is family law Off the top of my head electives are: international law/criminal justice, the legal clinic (practical work), tax law, insurance law, poverty law, environmental law, advanced corporate... these aren't all of them, but just a few I can recite I'm not too sure what you mean by a "set amount of placements", everyone gets one if you mean that...placements are generally easy to find, to my knowledge there are some in southern Ontario, but if you're looking for a specific firm or field, you might have to source it our yourself
  14. It was created with the initiative, but that doesn't mean the people there are forced to abide by it. I'm sure some people from southern Ontario will end up staying in the north, but it's not mandated to us to stay here after we graduate...
  15. Absolutely to everything posted above ^ I would just like to add that for housing there will probably be admitted students around may looking for roommates if you want to share a place with another 1L, once the Facebook group is created there are a ton of turn of the century renovated homes that are ideal for this set up. As for apartments themselves, I would suggest at least a one bedroom so you could have room for a desk (you'll get a lot of use out of it). And I would avoid basements if you can, they can flood up here, It's not uncommon for the old houses to flood . for a one bedroom you're looking at anywhere from $700-1000 depending on amenities/all inclusive/and how nice it is As for internet, I personally have shaw - which give student discounts. I pay about $45 after tax and have 150mbps download speed. Now, does it go that quick all the time? Absolutely not, but the customer service is pretty great. I just stress, wait till august and get the student deals! They are worth it (regardless of what school you go to, most ISP's offer them). Generally though, the internet is decently good, not many problems streaming online or with Netflix
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