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  1. Finally pulling the cord.. law school ..

    I mean you can even see the universities listed on this website on the way to this portion of the forum... To answer OP's question (but I really shouldn't) UBC, UVic, and TRU.
  2. LSAT vs MCAT

    You are definitely being too generous in the interpretation of the similarities. Unless they totally eliminated the chemistry and physics sections since I wrote it there also is a greater degree of memorization involved in the MCAT. I remember needing a lot of formulae. From what I recall it was basically a rehash of all of the introductory science courses you take in first-year university and my understanding now is they've added first-year psychology and sociology to that list and eliminated the essay. In contrast, the LSAT requires basically no set prior knowledge whatsoever to perform well. I mean sure, taking a few logic courses probably helps but its far from necessary. However, what they do have in common is I think they're both fairly meaningless beyond demonstrating your willingness and ability to jump through an arbitrary hoop to get into the program you want.
  3. U of T Vs. Osgoode for Public Sector

    I don't know if they've changed the way they administer their financial aid in the number of years since Uriel graduated but UofT now offers a fairly extensive and transparent formula that they allegedly use to determine it. I'm unsure as to whether or not Osgoode does the same but if I recall UBC's acceptance info plus speaking with them offered me a reasonably comprehensive view of what my financial aid would be (but not my scholarship value). Particularly when discussing public sector work I think it's pretty terrible advice to not suggest people should try and look at the true cost of the options they're considering. Edit: For the sake of clarity, I'm talking about this document and not the financial aid calculator which provided me with an estimate that was off by a few thousand dollars.
  4. U of T Vs. Osgoode for Public Sector

    I can't personally attest to this but I have been told by classmates that the way the two schools calculate financial aid can be substantial enough that for some UofT may be roughly the same or cheaper.
  5. How much does it matter where you go to school?

    I can't speak for everyone but all I can say is that for lots of people at U of T the money isn't really a factor for whatever reason and for those it does matter to there may be other reasons to want/need to stay in Toronto. Additionally, I wouldn't assume this is a stable belief. Maybe lots of people believe it beforehand but not so much once actually becoming better acquainted with the legal profession and having their views changed at which point the hassle of transferring is probably a big consideration.
  6. How much does it matter where you go to school?

    I don't know about that for sure. I think lots of folks at U of T now think it doesn't matter or that if it does it's much more limited to a handful of firms and perhaps clerking. That being said, I don't know why we'd ask students about this anyway since that's only 3 or 4 years of your life versus the entirety of your career afterwards.
  7. CivPro

    Annotated rules? Morden & Perell? For civ pro in general, rather than just Ontario, there is the Janet Walker & Lorne Sussin Irwin law book on civil litigation which is more about the ideas behind many parts of the civil process than just the rules.
  8. Need to Advice for college

    Your son will need to enroll in an undergraduate program first. Towards the end of his degree, he can consider applying for law schools based on his grades, extra curricular activities, and performance on the LSAT. "Best" is highly subjective. The most commonly provided piece of advice is that he should go to school in the geographic region he wishes to work in.
  9. Third Year Applicant to UBC?

    My understanding is that it's still more or less just based on your index score. You can find the formula to calculate said score here and a calculator that will do it for you here. Edit: I should add that while your GPA is obviously quite good (be sure to convert it to the UBC scale) you should be very careful about what you "reasonably expect" to score on the LSAT. If that's not the result of a large number of practice tests properly timed, using bubble sheets, full test conditions, etc. you should not place much reliance on that thought until you replicate that kind of a setting. Even then lots of people perform much differently from what they expected on test day, myself included. Many people need to write a second time to get a score they're satisfied with. In fairness the odd person also ends up doing much better than they expected but based on what I've seen on this site and from speaking with my peers I'd guess they're in the minority.
  10. I've only completed first year so I really couldn't comment. I've never asked anyone about it so I don't even have second hand knowledge, sorry.
  11. Tech Gadgets for School and Beyond

    I found having a printer at home to be of some utility.
  12. I'd say grades are fairly important but it also depends on what you want to do. If you wanna clerk or get a bay street job then grades are quite important. My firm is currently doing their articling hire and I know that there were grade cut offs in deciding who to interview and I believe their process is identical for 2L hiring. I've only finished 1L but I know that all my friends that got jobs during the 1L recruit had VERY good grades. All of my friends who have interviewed in New York were the same deal. That being said if you have no interest in big firms my understanding is that some areas of practice are much more about demonstrated interest and networking like criminal defence. I believe if you have any interest in taking over someone's small practice in a rural area or small town that'd be the deal, as well but I'm basing that solely on speaking about it with a family friend. As for averages, UofT is weird so I won't be able to provide much help given the lack of a real GPA system. I know that our surveys are extremely unreliable (I think someone mentioned that the average reported in the most recent one would require the school to give out substantially more Hs than are actually available). The administration told us that after first semester of 1L the average is two Ps and an H. So if we extrapolated that to second semester it'd be something like five Ps and two Hs or four Ps and three Hs. Anecdotally, I do know people who graduated with lower than average grades who are employed. I mean, the majority of law school graduates in Canada get jobs and by definition just under half of all grads have lower than average grades. I've never heard of anyone retaking classes to improve marks with the exception of failing a 1L class or some other required course. I don't know about getting 'released' from law school, either. I know that there are academic standing requirements but I've never actually heard of anyone being kicked out, that's likely pretty rare. I know after first semester a number of people didn't return, people have speculated that it had to do with them not being happy with their marks but who really knows.
  13. undergrad summer school inquiry

    Just to add in I took at LEAST one summer school course every year of my undergrad and got in both the schools I applied to (UofT & UBC).
  14. You get what you put in. I was a science grad student in a past life and have publications, which I think was useful for a number of things (perhaps admissions perhaps not) in and of itself. However, I also had to train many undergrads going for their BSc and what I'll say is that generally, those who were only doing it as an EC didn't get much out of it. It was always exceedingly obvious who was there because they felt they needed to be to get into medical school in terms of performance and overall learning outcomes. Arrangements like that were not in anyone's best interests. Remember that it's not just a 'credential' for you but it's a use of taxpayer money, time from very busy people, etc. To answer your question more directly, if you are genuinely interested do it and it'll probably help. Maybe not directly in admissions but somewhere, at some point in your life because it helps you develop a different kind of analytical perspective if you work at it. If you're not genuinely interested in doing scientific research for itself, I have some classmates with BScs and no research experience.
  15. Parents at Welcome Days

    I think I did slacks and a blazer. Lots of suits abound but (mostly) without ties. There was a pretty broad range I recall several people I know now being in much more casual than business attire and I don't think anyone cared/commented/judged. Most people were just pretty excited to get to meet future classmates. If the program is like last year you will be seated for meals with an alumni lawyer, likely a fairly successful one, but the one I was seated with certainly wouldn't have cared.
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